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For one thing, Gennedy Tartakovsky is russian.

If you don't know who that is, you need to go and hit yourself in the head for not knowing who created Samurai Jack.

Also, I challenge you to find a popular american cartoon that bothers with realism anymore. Ever since Ren & Stimpy, background artists have had a field day with existentialist environments. Perspective almost doesn't matter anymore, and where the hell can I find a building with made with vertical lines?

And as for characters looking almost exactly alike? Try watching some anime from the last 7 years. anime chraracter artists have been breaking out of the "hairstyle = individuality" stereotype ever since then.

Would you rather have the bizarre caricatures that have been coming out lately?

The only US cartoons that can hold a torch to the realism of anime are old '80s cartoons like Johnny Quest, Centurions, G.I. Joe, Silverhakws, Dinoriders, etc. Only back then did people bother with things like proportions of the human body, and the fact that in general people look pretty goddamn similar when you think about it.

No, GNAA people are uneducated trailerpark hicks - the slimiest of "coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum." They're not going to use clever alliteration or big words like "connotation" and "debased" and "caricature."

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Trolling the trolls since...um, June 2005.

TripMaster Monkey,

You are a vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You are a worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A herpes sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a a crack whore on the lips than be seen with you. You are a fiend and a sniveling, back-boneless coward, and you have bad cock breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved.

I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you especially your horribly tripe posts. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum. And I wish you would go away.

You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a putrefaction, a big suck on a sour lemon with a lime twist. You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in regret for what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You give slashdot a very sad connotation. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You and your posts have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. Mac users laugh at you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, a ferment, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your Windows insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little twit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. Your hand even refuses autoerotism. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusional self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have at slashdot? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meat slapper.

On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You and Winows have the personality of wallpaper.

You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far tha

So stop painting Bork as a victim of dirty tricks by mean liberals. He was an evil bastard who acted in concert with Nixon to thwart a legal investigation into Watergate.

The fact that Bork may be an evil bastard does not change the fact that he was a victim of dirty tricks (and gross, politically motivated misrepresentation) by liberals. The fight over Bork's nomination had almost nothing to do with his role in the "Saturday Night Massacre", and everything to do with liberal objections, and particularly pro-choice objections, to the anticipated consequences of Bork's appointment.

The problem with the Bork confirmation hearings (apart from the grotesque caricature of Bork's views by Ted Kennedy) was precisely that they did not focus on Bork's ethics, integrity, or legal judgment. Liberals were afraid that Bork would vote to reverse Roe v. Wade, and did everything they could to discredit him, to keep that from happening.

One wonders if people like you have ever gotten out of your wretched little white-bread suburbs, and actually gotten to know, or have even MET, any Japanese people. Not the racist caricatures of hollywood movies; but real, living, honest-to-god Japanese PEOPLE.

I have. And I have a damn sight more sympathy for my Japanese and Japanese-American friends than I have for trash like you.

cya,
john

Funny, I am tempted to say the same thing about Republicans. However, in doing so I would be guilty of stereotyping/overgeneralizing, just as I think you are in the text above. A more accurate description of the situation might be that a significant number of Americans (of various political stripes) have "devolved into being driven by hatred" and "are angry all the time". I think the following factors may be responsible for this phenomenon:

1. September 11th, and all the resulting paranoia and counter-paranoia that came with it
2. The splintering of media into many different channels, so that if you prefer a particular type of political slant it's easy to feed yourself a diet of that and nothing else 24/7, so that you never have to seriously confront an idea or argument that is at odds with your pre-chosen worldview.
3. Various factions (be they political, religious, or commercial) who actively fan the flames of fear, hatred, and irrational emotion as a means of bolstering support for their own agendas.
4. An educational system that does not teach sufficient critical thinking skills to students, leaving them open to pandering and intellectual manipulation

So what I think is happening is that your media outlets have presented your with a "straw man" caricature of what Democrats are like, and my media outlets have presented me with a "straw man" caricature of what Republicans are like. In both cases, we know what the people in our own towns are like, and they are by and large decent people, but people in far-off places (the Bible belt or LA) we only hear about in the news, and what we hear (from the politically slanted reports we read) isn't flattering. But if you (or I) were to spend time with "those people" in person, you'd realize that the people there are by and large decent and reasonable also -- it's just that people like that don't get talked about in the news.

That said, I do think that the Bush Administration has done more to damage America's future than Al Qaeda ever could have. We were once a role model to other nations, the "Shining City on a Hill" as Reagan put it. Now we are universally reviled as hypocrites who preach about human rights and democracy, but can't or won't live up to our own standards. Americans are a good people, and we may someday re-acquire our onetime reputation for decency and idealism, but in order to improve our behaviour we'd have to first admit that our behaviour was wrong -- something the Bush administration seems unable to do. Until then, the emperor has no clothes. Pre-emptive invasion on false pretenses, torture and sexual humiliation of prisoners, "disappearing" citizens, holding suspects indefinitely without due process of law, trampling of civil rights, political cronyism, publically revealing the names of undercover CIA agents in order to "get revenge" on their husbands, rewriting scientific reports to suit political ends, rewriting intelligence reports to suit political ends, environmental destruction, irresponsible financial policies that run up huge deficits to reward the rich while cutting social services for the poor... these are all immoral actions, regardless of who does them. One doesn't need to be "driven by irrational hatred" to see the damage being done and become upset about it.

Scientists and technologists have the same uneasy status in our society as the Jedi in the Galactic Republic. They are scorned by the cultural left and the cultural right, and young people avoid science and math classes in hordes.

The Cultural right doesn't like science, but I don't think that extends to individual scientists. The "cultural left" as far as I know dosn't care one way or another. The left these days has been positioning themselves as the heroes of science, saving it from the fundies.

Evolution, Global Warming, Stem-cell research: all fields in which The Left has aligned itself with the scientific community, while the right has cooked up their own false scientists while at the same time undermining the very institution of science.

Now, perhaps N.S. is talking about the same caricature of the ideological, academic, PC left that he heavy-handedly complains about in his books, but I've never seen much evidence that this is a very large movement, or has any power at all.

As someone who believes in individual freedom (a "cultural" libertarian) I wish others who believe as I do that the current right (epitomized by the Bush administration), the ones who have power are absolutely corrosive to individual freedom as well as science and knowledge.
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Also, come on. Calling Scientists and "geeks" the equivalent of Jedi is just masturbation. For one thing not all scientists/engineers consider themselves geeks. Being smart doesn't mean you have no taste in literature and art. I can program but I liked Lost in Translation a lot more then Episode Three. I'd rather read Gravity's Rainbow then some knockoff star wars book.

It's an article composed of generalizations about caricatures of steriotypes

My understanding is that Forbes is essentially the National Inquirer of the business world, so this is not surprising.

The article was awful for being kind of sloppy, but De Raadt was feeding it. It's an article composed of generalizations about caricatures of steriotypes, which is something like sloppy*10^3.

"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix"

Could have just as easily been . . .

"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we hate Linux"

"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls."

Would have been as meaningful had it been . . .

"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed each other."

I mean, no, linux isn't perfect, but that's not news. It's also not news that some people in the BSD community flame people in the Linux community, and vice versa, and they're usually silly flames. I don't mind silly flames so much on /., but silly flames in Forbes is pathetic.

I bet they just do what they do because they hate Slashdot. ;)

Acrylic is pretty nice for making quick sketches, like caricatures, and having them look like pen and ink.

Is it to a threat to Photoshop? Hell no. It's a threat to Paintbrush.

That said, it's kinda neat. I'll look at it again once they finish it. Microsoft's stuff is so committee-driven that it's very rare for them to come out with anything even this neat.

How did Yoda go so senile so quickly?

With the downfall of the Jedi, they lost the ability to project Yoda in CGI form. The best they could do was recruit Jim Henson to animate a crude caricature of Yoda in a jerky, unrealistic fashion. Just be lucky he didn't go all Fraggle Rock every once in a while and get thrown across the set.

The flaw with that reasoning is that capitalism does not involve passing interventionist laws.

You're confusing the economic system with the governmental context in which it exists. My supposition is that "pure capitalism" as an economic system in a larger social context can't last, and almost inevitably shifts to a form of mercantilism. Pure capitalism relies on the owners of capital being willing to leave the system unsullied by the influence available to them.

Which is just as unreasonable as Communism's assertion that the planners of the "transitional" distribution system will not use their position of power to better themselves at the expense of others.

To say that it leads to corruption makes it undifferent from any other system.

Exactly my point. But "tarnished capitalism" in an open society with a transparent legislature results in a better system for distributing those scarce resources than most other forms. IMHO, at least.

The truth is that there are no 'systems' in their own right, just people with philosophies. And to have capitalism, you first must have capitalists (similar to marxism).

Incorrect. A != B There are real differences between the economic systems, even if no economic system can ever be implemented in its ideal form.

You also are flawed in your assessment of resources, property rights, etc. Property rights are causal. Property does not exist unless property rights also exist.

I believe you are responding to someone else's remarks here.

Also, your assessment of Rand is incorrect - in fact, your 'four drives' are all selfish - and Rand was not all about acquisition. If she was, her characters would have been despots in the USSR.

Ayn was unwilling to consider a richer tapesty of what the nature of man was. The closest she got to actually admitting that simple definitions of selfishness were insufficient was in "The Romantic Manifesto", but she completely failed to expand upon the richness of human nature in any of her other work, including most importantly, "The Virtue of Selfishness".

All you need to validate my assertion is to look at the people who have come closest to actually living by Ayn's widely propagated ideals. They are uniformly unhappy: prone to suspicion, destructive in their relationships with others, etc. Starting with Ayn herself, who alienated everyone near her except for a few acolytes, and who died alone, bitter, and miserable in her New York apartment.

As for who her characters were, I submit that people who bear a resemblance to those cardboard-thin caricatures are exactly the type of people likely to become despots when granted the power to enact their own ideals.

Regards,
Ross

While it is not likely that any program that you write will be around after you die or that that OLED display you invent will still be used in 30 years or that that game art you worked so hard on will ever be seen in 20 years, you will still have contributed more, been more a part of history than guys with girlfriends and social lives. If that's any consolation.

I certainly hope you're trolling. I spent my early High School years as the awkward adolescent geek cooped up in my room playing games or whatnot, but as I "came out of my shell" I found my life to be FAR more enjoyable. Tell you what though, you sit there and draw caricatures of naked cartoon characters, and talk about what a great contribution you've made to society. Meanwhile I'll be out with my Girlfriend, my Dogs, or my Friends, thoroughly enjoying myself and making a positive impact on their lives. Nerds are so damn selfish..

- DRFSR

Caricature is spelled correctly.

However, it's not far off the mark. The hardcore libertarians all believe in magic market dust. They claim to think that if the government just shrivelled up overnight, the corporations would magically become trustworthy, honest entities working for the greater good via working for their own good. They go on and on about free markets and informed decisions, and "customers will vote with their dollar" even as the economy comes crashing down around them thanks to the liars at Enron, Worldcom, and many more.

The sad thing is that most of them know it will never happen, and think the rest of us are stupid sheep who will follow them wherever they lead, and yet they're themselves too stupid to realize that they'll never have power because the stupid sheep already have republican and democrat shepards watching over their flocks.

They'll just have to keep their dreams of swindling the world to themselves as the SEC investigates their heros they secretly admire for pulling a fast one on the entire economy and proving that lies can beat the truth and cash out.

I take it you didn't even read the parent post :-)... I find it funny that one one side, you mischaracterize the parent post as "magic market dust", and then say that some libertarian caricature (sp?) will not like it because it is not really magic market dust.

Would you make up your mind on how to trivialize a good idea? And maybe make a coherent argument?

I do apologise. I was about to add the quotes, realising both my error and the propriety of your original usage when by woeful carelessness on my part I hit submit instead of preview.

Alas, sarcasm is lost on most these days.

I abase myself utterly before your magnificence. My shame is unbearable.

Seriously, it's notoriously difficult to convey sarcasm effectively (at least without resorting to gross caricature like the above) through the medium of text - just look at any USENET netiquette guide. Of course, if your aim is to score cheap points rather than communicate effectively then that same difficulty can become a godsend.

if you have these questions to ask, go ask him instead of pointing out the bloody obvious on /..

Ask him what? Whether he is corrupt or merely stupid? It seems sarcasm isn't the only rhetorical form that doesn't propagate over a textual interface, nee? And just because you are fed up with the subject, it doesn't mean that the issues couldn't benefit from a wider airing.

It's not as if the geeks here are interested.

You know, if only I'd know you spoke for all of slashdot, I could have asked you first and saved myself the trouble. Perhaps you might tell those nice fellows that modded the original post +4 that they're not really interested after all? I hate to disappoint them after they've been so nice to me.

I am going to do is help my country-men give the EU and our own collective governement including most of the opposition the Finger in the referendum held today.

Huzzah! Good for you! I applaud your efforts. I wish I could do likewise. Alas, Dear Tony has determined that we are unlikely to get the chance to express our opinions unless he can determine in advance that we're going to agree with him. So give them one for me - I'm sure we all agree that finger giving is vitally important in this age of increasing european political disenfranchisement.

And when you get through that, feel free to do something about that chip on your shoulder.

Babies are able to grasp very quickly that words apply to categories of things

This is so true. I remember being utterly amazed when my toddler was able to immediately spot a bird in real life based off a cartoonish caricature in one of his children's books. It just flabbergasts me how a mind so young can perform recognition that we can't achieve with a beowulf cluster of supercomputers.

Actually it sounds like the loony left caricature of the Republican Party. If you want to understand the the real-world Republican party, you'd do well to read and understand the party's platform, which is published and readily available.

Actually, what's been obscured in this case is not the shape of the earth, but what Christians said about it. There is no doubt that some Christians believed in a flat earth, but there is also no doubt that most did not. The flat earth myth (which many of us were exposed to as children - The story that Columbus had difficulty securing funding because of left-over medieval Christian superstitions has been pretty thoroughly debunked) is mostly the result of overly zealous 19th century writers eager to proclaim and demonstrate the triumph of rationalism over a caricature of religious thinking.

See also many accounts of Galileo's mistreatment for examples of similarly motivated distortion.

/Don Pedant Hat

Perhaps you meant "Caricatures"

noun: (the art of making) a drawing or written or spoken description of someone, which makes part of their appearance or character more noticeable than it really is, and which usually makes them look ridiculous. /Remove Pedant Hat