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I'm afraid it's far worse than that, AC -- godless tornadoes from space! (Heard it from Les Nessman, WKRP so it has to be true)

Actually my parents were wonderful about the whole thing. My dad always said "If the boy says he needs it he probably does" so while the other kids had an Atari (I had the ColecoVision with the Atari add on, better system IMHO) I was spending my time on my VIC learning BASIC (which was how I fucked with the JHS computers, tee hee) and while other kids were read "Horton Hear A Who" I was read "Sci Fi's best new writers of 74" by mom (who to this day gets mobbed by the college girls that work in the library when she brings in books to donate, as they consider her THE person to go to for excellent Sci Fi/Fantasy/Horror books) and they both accepted the local schools were shit, filled with close minded little bigoted power mad douchenozzles for teacher, so they let me proceed at my own pace and learn what I liked.

While that did have a few downsides, such as my English grammar will always suck (but according to Ms Edwards it was simply the way my minds works, she said it was easy to see when I wrote anything as it was strictly noun verb. She said a novel written by me about a dog would be "I had a dog, he is dead now, I miss that dog" LOL!) and while I'm great at basic math I never cared for Algebra or Trig so didn't bother with it. But as I said my bike wreck saved my sanity from being jammed in that cookie cutter hell, so it all worked out.

Oh and for the assclown that said "I bet he didn't get invited to no parties herp derp" and most likely a jock I wager? Actually I was usually the first one to be invited along with my band as I've been playing bass since I was 14. I found that music is truly a universal language, that it didn't matter what IQ or social boundary exists between people, music is common to all feeling people. That and playing "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" gets you a LOT of pussy.

So while he was probably looking for beer to sneak at 16 and hoping he might get to second base I was getting my socks knocked off nightly by a 32 year old brunette when I was 16. I would have run off to Cali with her after she got her PHD at 17 but dad refused to give me the title to my Grand Le mans sport, and I really loved that car. That Pontiac 455 may have sucked gas like a wino sucking hooch but I was making a good $200-$400 a weekend slapping down college boys in their Vettes drag racing. I thought my mom was gonna die laughing when I told that story to my new GF in front of her as Brenda said "I'd have had that bitch arrested! You were underage!" as that was EXACTLY what mom said to me all those years ago when I asked for the title!

So all in all I really can't complain. Would it have been better if I had had some sort of magnet school with teachers that were actually challenging? Maybe, but I've toured the south a half a dozen times with different bands (and am currently getting ready to lay down tracks in our new mini studio with my latest one) had more great sex than should be allowed, get to meet nice folks and help them with their PC problems (I even sold two new builds while tornadoes rolled overhead last night in the apt storm shelter) and have a wonderful Cherokee princess who loves to cook and just adores my family.

One final word: If you have children in the same boat? Home school them. When my sister found out soon after the birth of her second that she was terminal and that her husband had fallen to drugs she gave her two boys to me and my mom to raise. We tried traditional school until fifth grade, when a teacher actually had the balls to bring her bible into class and spend the ENTIRE class lecturing on "Godless heathens and Sodomites" (The oldest is Catholic, the youngest gay) so after telling that bitch exactly where she could shove her "good book" we home schooled the boys. The oldest is now on the Dean's list studying medicine, the youngest is still deciding whether to go CAD or be a chef. Both of them did SO much better once they were away from that damned sausage factory, it was like night and day. I just wished we would have sued the district out of exi

I'm going to start calling my car the God Vehicle, AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE NAUGHT BUT A GODLESS WRETCH AND I WILL SMITE YOU WITH MY HOLY CONVEYANCE.

What a coincidence, Jesus Built My Hotrod too!

You know, it's time for the lameness filter to go. If it really worked, half the articles on /. would never show up. As it is, it's all false and no positive.

Holy fuck, settle down. Get the stick out of your ass.

It's not that god is an offensive label, it's simply that it's a misleading label. There's nothing godly about the higgs-boson. Calling it the god particle is really little different than calling coffee the god drink. Yeah, not a whole lot of justification for it, is there? Go crawl back under your rock. You don't even understand why it was mislabeled the god particle in the first place, nor why the label is misleading, not even what any of this even means. You just heard someone say something less than positive about something labeled "god" and got fucking self-righteously offended. Fucking pathetic.

I'm going to start calling my car the God Vehicle, AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE NAUGHT BUT A GODLESS WRETCH AND I WILL SMITE YOU WITH MY HOLY CONVEYANCE.

Please. Get the fuck out.

First they came for the 3x5 cards and i said nothing

Then they came for the 8 1/2 x 11 paper, i was too afraid to speak

Then they came for my pound cake, i let them take it

When they came for my 10 inch... .

... sub-woofer?

...record of a band that plays the blues...

Don't forget communism.

The metric system is clearly communism.

When they came for my 10 inch...

...it became over 25 centimeters, and you're complaining about that?

First they came for the 3x5 cards and i said nothing

Then they came for the 8 1/2 x 11 paper, i was too afraid to speak

Then they came for my pound cake, i let them take it

When they came for my 10 inch... .

Yes the Iranians are the new Nazi's... They even invaded Poland last week and are quickly moving toward France as we speak.

We should bomb them now before they have a chance to do something we don't like because they are evil godless, soulless monsters. Never mind the fact that WE are exactly the same, WORSE honestly. We went into their democrat country and installed a brutal dictator. Now we're unset that they don't like us and our best friend, who we have armed with our very best atomic weapons! Gee... if I was them I wouldn't be in the least bit worried that we wouldn't come back to finish what we started... Namely to rape their natural resources and leave them to die...

It's always the same, we are the good guys and everyone else are monsters bent on destroying the world.... grow the fuck up...

Yes Godless software piraters stole my muffins and I will not take it any more. Jesus loves you, now DIE!

For me, a critical distinguishing point between science and (religious) faith is that the outcomes of science are independent of one's religious faith. It doesn't matter whether you're a Catholic, Shiite, Jew, or godless Commie, if you implosion-squeeze the plutonium sphere with a neutron source at the center, you *will* get an atomic explosion. Even if you 'don't believe in atoms'.

Similarly, if you administer the neutralized polio virus to your population as directed by the scientists, your children *will* be largely free of polio, regardless of whether you're a virologist, or whether you believe that disease is a Karma consequence, or that disease results from 'bad humours' or angry gods.

I don't know of a religion with such reliable, faith-neutral outcomes. Science wins.

"The rest of us rely on experts to explain it, someone who has seen and understood the truth and can dumb it down for us in a language we can understand"

Because of this, for its own protection, Science should be politicaly neutral in all things.

I'm not entire sure what "politically neutral" means, though. At some level, Science is both focused on the highly theoretical (particle physics comes to mind) and the rather pragmatic (GMO and hybrid crops). Inherently, a lot of funding of the highly theoretical only comes from government because businesses and private individuals are unwilling to fund such research. As such, isn't it inherent that Science is bent by the political will of government?

It is one thing for Science to say this is happening or that is happening. It's quite another for it Science to say that we should re-order our society because of it. That is not the place of Science. And because your average individual is not able to reasonably question the science without a considerable amount of effort, if at all, they are left in a position of being told, "do this becase I'm an expert".

Yes, but doesn't Science do this inherently? If Science keeps doing research that shows cigarettes are a cancer risk, don't they inherently warp the discussion about what should be done, as to ignore all that government funded research seems a waste? What if Science had instead focused more on material science that would have improved automobile construction? The issue is, at some point even if there aren't people in Science saying to do something, the line of research inherently biases people who would listen to Science to focus on change, just as there are those who listen to those in Military or those in Business to do things even if no one person tries to order things to be done.

Only when Science is perceived to have no stake in how the science is interpreted and acted upon, vis-a-vis public policy, can it be compeletely trusted by those who don't have the means to question it.

Inherently, Science is interested in the human race not being wiped out since Science is done by humans. As such, a lot of the research that focuses on harm reduction is going to be biased if nothing else in the focus Science has on such research over other things, like the risks of methane storms on Neptune. I don't think one should have complete trust really in any authority, be it Science, Military, etc. Obviously, each have their own agenda, their inherent bias, and I do hope they try not to intentionally warp the facts as presented to others.

But, there should always be doubt and consideration and thought. Yes, this requires a reasonably amount of effort out of the average person, but that's something the average person should accept as a duty as being part of a democracy where their voice effects himself/herself and others. And that doesn't mean blindly accepting the over skepticism of some groups (those that overly paint groups as godless, liberal, conservative, a financial waste, etc). It means taking a step back, reading as much evidence as one can, and thinking for oneself. There's no real substitute for that and I think that's much more important than how "political" Science might be.

What does any of this have to do with the US thinking it has the right to act as world policeman?

The US is not in Afghanistan to liberate the people any more than the Soviets were there to liberate it from Western Capitalist Imperialists[tm]. And the US didn't support religious fundamentalism after (and before) that to liberate Afghanistan from Godless Communist Interantionalists[tm]. Such wars are about one superpower or another fighting for control of resources and strategic locations, as well as securing funding for the corporations of which politicians and their donors are shareholders. You know it; I know it.

Be a soldier on the offensive if you want, but don't be such a damn coward about your reasons. I'd hoped hypocrisy died with the setting of the sun on the British empire, but it seems much of the US are no better.

that's the whole atheist panic that eisenhower and others experienced during the cold war when confronted with the rise of the ussr. its the reason why separation of church and state was ignored and "under god" and "in god we trust" were hastily inserted in our mottos and pledges. that a bunch of atheist engineers were going to take over american society, in a reflection of the atheist communist revolutions sweeping the globe. that's what eisenhower is worried about: godlessness. that's what he means by a scientific-technological elite

but that's a hollow threat form a dead era. since the ussr has fallen, religion has reasserted itself globally, and especially domestically in the usa, religion is as strong as ever, perhaps greatest since the days of the religious pilgrims. the founding fathers were distrustful of religion, bless them (irony intended), but even that is being whitewashed with the more strident members of the american taliban to say the founding fathers founded this country as a christian country. fucking ignorants or liars, take your pick

so frankly, the "scientific-technological elite" eisenhower warns us about never materialized

or at least not here

china is basically a technocracy. china is exactly what eisenhower was worried about the usa becoming: godless technocrats in charge of an autocratic capitalist machine. and since china is going to surpass the usa in terms of economic power and therefore military power in a decade or two, eisenhower's words have resonance yet. we shall see how it all plays out. myself, i'm waiting for the average chinese citizen to wake up from their propaganda cocoon and realize they are basically being treated like slaves. their government certainly doesn't respect them: no right to vote. much of the world's coming history depends upon when the average chinese person wakes up

wake up chinese citizen! you deserve democracy. the rest of the world is tapping our toes waiting for you to demand that you stop being treated like cogs in a machine. chinese people aren't pets. and yet chinese people seem to accept that treatment from beijing. for now, while your economic might rises. when it plateaus, or dips, as it inevitably will, no economy balloons forever, maybe then we will see chinese people demand your simple human dignity, the right to choose your own leaders

Tell me more about this sleeping with strangers part. Grieving just might be something I want to get in to, at least on weekends.

Black comedy aside, this reminds me of Pat Tillman's brother Richard at his funeral after Sen. John McCain said that a loving God will reunite the family in the end: "Just make no mistake, he would want me to say this, he's not with God, he's fucking dead, he's not religious, so thanks for your thoughts but he's fucking dead." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwsy8FEL0ls

American heros can be godless, not just commies.

Anyway, "Taking with it 228 souls." I thought that, according to folklore, souls were the one thing that actually escaped.

Nothing was "shoved down anyones throat". The republicans were pretty good at neutering obamacare. Although that's kind of what they are there for.

Republicans are great at "party discipline". It makes for very effective obstructionism when they are in the minority. Although this means that each individual republican is less like a free man and more like a member of the communist party.

There is more than one way to cast the "opposing party" as some sort of "godless communists".

Personally, I wish the GOP would/could jettison their theocrat wing.

Can you provide me with a specific way (not partisan rhetoric) that Obamacare is anti-American? And when answering, don't confuse "anti-American" with "I don't like it," "It's badly implemented," or "That's what they do over in Godless Europe." I don't like Obamacare. I think it's a sham of a healthcare measure that benefits mostly insurance corporations. I think it was an ill-conceived attempt to make some sort of gesture to the left that healthcare is in crisis while not pissing off the people that paid for the presidency. But I don't think for a second that it's anti-American in the same way that censorship of free speech is. Without free speech, we wouldn't even be able to have this debate.

one million american dollars, yeah it is kind of cheap.

There is a great book about the Soviet side of the early space days. One of their test V7 rockets blew up, the chief designer and his friend were almost crying about the massive amount of money they had just wasted, enough to support whole villages several times over.

When Sputnik launched, it captured the human imagination so powerfully that even the communist apparatchiks of Kruschev's regime had to pay respect to Korolev, and even the children of the imperialists were out in their backyards tuning their radios to the transmissions of the godless communist enemy. The man Korolev, though they would not know the man's name for another couple dozens years, as he was kept a secret so the CIA would not assassinate him, and his team, inspired the whole world.

And now, this feat costs $250,000... less than the price of a fighter jet, or a hollywood movie, or a TV show episode, and it can be done by civilians. It is truly remarkable, and a great story for slashdot.

IMHO

This is a good thing, you godless socialist.