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XFree86 3.3.6 released
kornyone writes "Freshmeat listed XFree86 3.3.6 as being released, among new features: "Highlights of the new release include: support for the ATI Rage128. support for the ATI Rage Mobility, support for the SiS 540/630 and SiS 300, support for Silicon Motion Lynx chipsets, support for the Savage2000, support for the NVIDIA GeForce, support for the Intel i810 (not enabled by default as it needs a kernel module), and fixes to several drivers." "
Lynx. Pine. Vi. MC. What the fsck is this XFree-whatever crap?
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Freshmeat has a stale link. The 3.3.6 release notes are here.
In short all those Christmas newbies with their latest "hot" video cards should be able to get Linux installed pretty painlessly without going through the "Why doesn't X work for me" woes that were so common last yuletime round.
Thanks for the hard work XFree guys, eagerly awaiting version 4.0
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Bah. Real Programmers use nothing fancier than ed, and what's wrong with telnetting to ports 25 and 110 anyway? Darn these whippersnappers...
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
The deadly question is, how much time does a 3.3.x release consume that could have been spent making 4.x available sooner?
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Dude. Real programmers use
$ cat > a.out
3.9.x == the development branch, is X11R6.4 based;
4.0.x (or 4.x) == the forthcoming stable release branch (the first stable version of the 3.9.x branch
Intosi
Intosi
Well, kinda like the versioning with the Linux kernel: 3.3.x is the stable release, 3.9.x is the development release which, eventually, is going to be the 4.0.x release. Oke, it is *not* like Linux with even/odd numbers, but you get the idea...
Thimo
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1) I've not yet seen framecapable text browsers
Emacs does this. ctrl-x 2 I think. And if you use the framebuffer with a matrox card you can get a lovely 44x148 (or better) text console (in graphics mode) which is great for displaying two files side by side.
Of course Emacs is not a text browser or editor. It is an operating environment :-)
Is anyone aware if XFree86 3.3.6 supports SiS6326, which is mostly used on onboard chipsets for motherboards. I've had a heck of a time finding relevent information about this thing (even the scant SiS web page is only half-useful), and have only been able to find a half-working SuSE XFCom driver.
This is funny. I think this should be incorporated into the posting guidelines as an Emily Postnews style article.
2 00&cid=9.
cid is http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/01/10/0837
However, the metawronka guy is just a sad and pathethic individual with no originality. Kid, a tip: layoff the automatic complaint generator. It was only funny the first time and that was a long time ago.
dave
These great new drivers are ready for release. XFree 4.0 is not ready for release. If the XFree team didn't put out another series 3 release, the owners of these cards would be forced to wait to use their hardware.So everyone please stop bitchin' about this not being 4.0. The XFree team did the right thing.
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They were built yesterday, it appears. How's that for cutting edge.
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On reality point one: lynx copes fine with frames. It gives a link to each framed page, which is often a more convenient way to look at the site anyway. Now table-display is another story. Why oh why w3m can do it and lynx can't I don't know.
Dude, Real programmers use a magnetic pin on their disks.
BTW, didn't we already have this discussion a while ago, and didn't it end in "What, you had mitochondria? We didn't have all that fancy stuff back in the old days."
i don't know if this will be of any use to anyone... but here's a link to intel's guide for installing X for the i810 - it covers the extra kernel mod needed.
The key to 3D acceleration with TNT2 is the Nvidia X Server which is downloadable from their website. It's built against XFree86-3.3.5, so you'll have to have that version of XFree86 installed. They include a rather nice install script that copies the X Server and glx and GL libraries. You will also need to have Mesa installed.
I think that's what he meant, using 'browser' to mean 'web browser'. So a 'text browser' is not something like less(1), it's a browser that runs on a text terminal.
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...To which the standard rejoinder is:
No way. Real Real Programmers use
$ zcat > a.out
'cause you can type faster that way.
-jacob
You're not reading wrong... It does clearly say that. Unfortunately, that's completely untrue. The Rage128 chip is now supported in 3.3.6, thanks to the work done by SuSE. IMHO, one of the biggest problems with XFree86 isn't their closed development model, but their lack of up-to-date documentation.
Adam
There has been support there since at least 3.3.5 (have one). But, I'm not sure if you can get any better then 15bit mode at high res, due to some wierdness with the S3 clocks on that board. HTH
Am I the only one who is wary of how the Xfree Group handles such a important project? Don't get me wrong, I have much respect for anyone who releases useful OSS, however there are a number of things that have always bothered me about Xfree86.
1) Xfree86 has never provided the quality of documetnation that most OSS projects of its size provide.
2) They do not seem to try very hard to interact with user needs.
3) They do not go out of their way to solicit users for feature requests (it is 2000 and we still don't have a decent API to change color depth or resolution on the fly!), or provide a decent forum for bug tacking/reporting (I reported a bug with ALL matrox drivers (Matrox Mill - G400MAX) where in 16bpp pixels will be dropped when using scroll bars that use the default Xfree96 widget set. This bug was reported back in 3.3.3 and as of 3.3.5 it was still a issue. (I doubt it will be fixed in 3.3.6 either).
4) Finally, Xfree86 does not act like most other OSS groups of their size. Maybe this has something to do with their *bsd origins (no insult intended). It has been my experince that the *bsd people has always had an eleetist approch, where a group of "old school" gurus huddle in a dark cave somewhere and scheme over the "right way" (TM) to do things. (which I am not saying isn't their right to do it that way), it just does not seem to produce the type/quality of software that I (or linux for that matter) have come to depend on.
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I'm another of the folk that can't get the
ibm 300pl w/ s3 trio 3d with the 86c366
chipset to run. It would appear that there
are subtle differences in the OEM 85C366
chipsets used in these. Some are essentially
identical to the normal 85C365 trio 3d and
some have an unknown (at least to me)difference.
It's enough to make it fail but subtle enough
that debug output shows that the xserver thinks
everything is working fine.
I've sent queries to IBM on this and gotten
no response at all (surprise). I've also
scoured the usenet groups and tried all
suggestions found there - even the ones that
seem silly (cargo cult diagnostics?). no
joy.
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2) The 2D part of a VooDoo3 *is* a banshee