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Updated Slash & Server 51
I'm not planning on announcing each and every release of Slash here, but there were several pretty significant problems in the v0.9 release of Slash (mostly the fact that my e-mail was hardcoded in one spot so I'm getting status report e-mail from dozens of new Slashlings as they pop up). Please Upgrade! Details about the release, and future announcements will mostly be
posted at Slashcode.com, so if you're using the code or just interested, bookmark it. Second is the matter of Server51. We had a little miscommunication over here and let the cat out of the bag on this when we released Slash v0.9: S51 is Freshmeat's new open source hosting site. It's still very alpha, and only hosting a few projects, but since it's already getting a fair amount of curious visitors, feel free to poke around and send suggestions... it'll be ready for mass consumption "when it's finished" of course ;)
I like the ability to put content-boxes on both sides.
i think i missed this... where is this option?
(darren)
Another skeptic here, but have you ever noticed the super-highly moderated comments, usually in interviews which despite being "Intriguing" or "Insightful" haven't a single reply?
Have you noticed that if you check out the person's other posts, they're all similarly highly rated, with few followups?
Sometimes I wonder if professional reporters for news outlets aren't stuffing the moderation scores with multiple accounts.
(This is not off-topic as it has to do with the functionality of the code mentioned in the article!)
I was thinking about other systems of moderation to implement. Something like introducing "entropy", randomly allocated positive moderation points. Each story would get points at a rate determined per hour and per volume of posts. That way people (first post kiddies) have no way of obtaining moderation by boosting their Karma, or bleeding moderation points by posting intentionally stupid anonymous comments. All they could possibly do to abuse the system is to open zillions of accounts, hope for one of them to randomly get some points, and boost stupid comments.
Hand-picked super-moderators could probably control, and hence discourage this problem. Blasted commments could go into a "censored" page or something. Just to check for abuse.
The other key is to make moderation convenient... ie, not require a page reload to submit, and to be able to post to the same story you moderate. Just tick off boxes as you read, and tie moderation to any action on the page. Even perhaps a javascript "onDocumentExit" event.
Yeah, I know, write it myself. I just might.
There must be a simple way to allow anonymous comments, public moderation and curb abuse all at the same time.
Opera 3.60 / NT, to be more specific. So it seems to be more of a bug in the HTML creation than a browser error.
There was a lot of link-baiting going on yesterday.. Post something mildly (3, insightful) entertaining, but include an outside link to (porn-site, etc) as an integral part of it. On top of that, Mr. Don Knotts/Emmanuel Goldstein was rampaging, trying to it off as legit.. So there were a lot of (-1, interesting) floating.
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Good to see updates of the code... it certainly puts the nail in the coffin the /. team is uncommitted to keeping the code current and that they just released unfinished code to appease the whiners.
try http://server51.net instead
Just curious, maybe I didn't read far enough into the previous article or the code itself, but what are the system requirments for Slash (hardward and software) I know it requires mod_perl and an SQL server, but what else?
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And here I thought the hardcoded email address was so that Mr Malda, in his efforts to be Big Brother, could keep track of who is using the code. Ofcourse we are all aware of Mr Malda's other nefarious schemes.
There's more to hosting a project than providing an FTP server. Any place that plans to do it well will have to offer a mix of web-hosting, mailing list management, CVS service, FTP, and any other whiz-bang features they can think of.
Hey, every project has some bugs, and Cmdrtaco couldn't really let us test it before he released it, could he? I don't know if you noticed, but the version number was Slash V0.9. This means it was NOT the 1.0 release. Understand? If you don't like it, then either just live with it, help fix what's wrong, or write your own code :-).
Note: not meant as a flame, sorry if it came off that way...
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I'd like to see other slash sites as well! Please post URL's if you get something up! :)
Slightly off-topic: Did anybody else notice that moderation was quirky yesterday? there were decent posts moderated down all over the place.
/.? I haven't tested the 0.9 code, but it was definitely a possibility in 0.3...
Now, I aint the cynical kind (yes I am), but this phenomenon coming a few days after the Slash release makes me sceptical: is it possible that some group o' kids found themselves a moderation exploit in
engineers never lie; we just approximate the truth.
Bowie, I'm sure you came up with Sourceforge and I'm sure you talked with trae, but as the guys who was in charge of hosting over here and the guy who registered the names on internic (well before anyone else did, I might add) I take issue with your complaining about it. I had no idea that had the name in your head to use, I thought it up and I registered it, and then we used it, at first for a machine we were bringing online to butress a failing machine and afterwords to launch sourceforge.net
I know you had something going on with Trae, and I know you guys don't get along because of it, but what I don't understand is why you have such a huge problem with both us and freshmeat offering hosting services. This is not brain surgery to come up with this stuff, it's obvious that it is a needed service and VA has been hosting projects and groups since well before my time here, and at least streching back to 1996.
As far as System 12 goes, If you want to go forward with it, I'll give you some hardware to set it up, all I heard about was that system 12 was going to be a GTK widget repository and you'd do some hosting, and I was looking forward to that. Why do you think that if sourceforge and Server 51 exists that you can't be there too? If anything it'd be good for them to have the competition.
Chris DiBona
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Pres, SVLUG
Co-Editor, Open Sources
Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.
Damn, could'nt you have used the same user database for slashcode.com??? It's a bit of a pain in the a** to reregister. Anyway.
I'm viewing this page with Netscape 4.7/Linux and the tables are really messed up: they're all squished over on the right up top, and to left on the bottom. Is anyone else getting this?
Is SlashCode.com using Slash? I think it actually looks better than Slashdot...I like the ability to put content-boxes on both sides...it also looks a bit more aesthetically pleasing.
When's the last time Slashdot got a makeover? Perhaps one's due...
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Grrr...
Guys please for now on cc' the announcement text BEFORE you post it! Thank you.
of all the whiners and complainers that have called Rob dirty names. That sh!t got reall old. Now the source is here, and you can all play with it.
/. a new look. :) Maybe make it user themeable with xml. Something like slashdot.themes.org could be put up to hold cool themes. I guess that just means I read /. to much--I want it to match the rest of my desktop.
On a side not, slashcode.org looks great. Maybe Rob should think about giving
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Anyhow, in the future if there is anything VA or I can do, let me know.
Chris DiBona
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Grant Chair, Linux Int.
Pres, SVLUG
Co-Editor, Open Sources
Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.
I came up with the name Server 51. I pitched a list of names out into an internal malining list (many weird names) and Server 51 got the most votes. I was thinking of Area 51. I had never heard of System 12 before. *shrug*
Wow! That Server51 is one cool site. Personally, I think the "alien conspiracy" thing is bit overused, but they've done it well, and made excellent use of a few small graphics to create a very cool look.
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It's me, Patrick Galbraith, I'm the guy who's co-maintaining this with Rob. I was going to create the name "CaptSandwich", but I like Tofu better, and I wanted more rank (LtTofu wouldn't be so cool), so Captain and Tofu. No mystery there. I have a link to the site in my name so that I don't get bombarded - that's what the mailing lists are for.