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Stampede v0.90 Code Freeze

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the going-into-deep-freeze dept.

john wrote to us with the news that Stampede has announced a code freeze, effective as of Feb. 21, 2000. With the freeze in place, they will be attending to only bug reports and looking to do a stable release soon.

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  1. Stampede by AjR · · Score: 3

    Its nice to see that Linux distro's are beginning to "theme" themselves a little bit. We can only gain by such spread within the fold. Rather then chase the elusive dream of a "desktop-friendly" OS, we should be looking at how we can make ourselves more secure. In that respect, I would see Open-BSD as more of a worthy target then Windows. Face it people, Windows will endure. For example, I use Linux as a work server because of simple maths...NT+5CAL's+Exchange+5ExchangeCal's+ProxySer ver+ZetaFax= megabuck$ whereas Linux+Sendmail+Squid+HylaFax+Samba = nearly free (the only charge being the time learning them). Our challenge for the free *nixes should be to make them the OS of choice for home networks. As long as people use Office/SmartSuite at work it will be hard for them to justify the fuss in translating documents. However, show them how they can share their internet connection, how they can fax from any machine and you grab them. For example, I work a lot from home as a rep for Plaid Cymru and I do a lot of work faxing, e-mailing etc. Linux has revolutionised my work - but I still use Lotus SmartSuite on a WIn98 client. Not from any anti-M$ bias but because I have 3 years of work in it! Its just not feasible to swap so swiftly. Grab the home network market and lever that - rather then chase the elusive "Windows" user. In that respect, distro's like Stampede and SlackWare pay a very important role. And me.... I use RedHat because thats what I bought when I first heard of this "Linux thingy"! I bought 5.1 when it was already quite old. I ain't interested in flaming an OS, I just want to work effectively. That is the goal we should be chasing! "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".

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    1. Re:Stampede by AjR · · Score: 2

      Actually it isn't trivial.

      Internet Connection Sharing was introduced with Windows 98. So, if you are using 95 you can't do it.

      Plus you don't get a firewall. Do any file and print sharing and without a little bit of thought you are broadcasting your shares across the 'net.

      Fax sharing needs extra software (IIRC) from Windows.

      I ain't no blind zealot - I'm just pointing out one thing that Linux has in it's favour - the ability to build a seriously useful home network.

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  2. Seems nice... by Ma�djeurtam · · Score: 2

    Hi,

    I've just discovered Stampede's homepage, I had never heard about them before. From what I read, it seems to be a very nice & clean project.

    There's just one thing that bugs me : they say, in their slogan, that they are "The First PGCC/Glibc Distribution Optimized for Speed!".

    Isn't that precisely what Mandrake does (and does quite well IMHO) for monthes, if not years ?

    No flame intended, I just want to open a thread about a Stampede/Mandrake comparison, discussing their respective merits. Oh well...

    Stéphane

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    1. Re:Seems nice... by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 2

      Yes, but Stampede was around before mandrake was geared towards optimization.

  3. Re:Power Users by Junta · · Score: 2

    When they say power users, they mean people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance they can out of the system. Stampede was among the first distributions to bust out the pgcc compiler and compile as much as possible with it using the best optimizations. I've grown to distrust pgcc though, as it breaks certain programs still, and you are made to think the program does not work when it would when compiled with normal gcc.

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  4. Curious... by JDax · · Score: 2
    I took a look at the site (I'd been hearing about this distro for some time.) &nbsp The below was interesting to comment on:

    • There is no distribution optimized for newer machines. Lets face it, our new Pentium/K6/Whatever should not be running code optimized for a 386/486
    • There is not really a distribution available that has updated packages and security as it's number one goals. This needed to happen.
    • We feel that even the easiest distribution out there is not easy enough to install for the new user. If the Linux revolution is to take place, we need something easier to install and use than DOS/Win95.
    Hmmm... &nbsp looking at these points, although they are commercial entities, Mandrake, Caldera, and CorelLinux seemed to have focussed on points #1 & #3, ie., optimizing for the newest boxen and making a "for-dummies" install program for win/dos users. &nbsp I have both Mandrake and Caldera and their main "selling point" (as it were) is to go after the win desktop market, so I don't see much new here except that Stampede is apparently not a traditional "corporate" entity like Macmillan, Caldera, or Corel.

    Item #2 seems confusing unless they are referring to the fact that if you choose to install the server features, you basically have an "open wide" system that needs to be locked down.

    Over the past couple of months, I've seen some really bizarre comments about security and Linux and alot of it has to do with mixing up "server" with "workstation". &nbsp I know that Linux does both, but you can choose either via most of the install programs, and then take responsibility for securing the system in the manner required.

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    1. Re:Curious... by JDax · · Score: 2

      And the secuirty issues are a bit more complex than you say. When they talk about secuirty, I think they are saying they want to be the OpenBSD of the linux world, but I was never too interested in the secuirty anyway.

      When I was attempting to choose a "free as in beer" *BSD to install at home, I looked at the 3 most popular - FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. &nbsp I read through their sites thoroughly and was impressed with OpenBSD's security focus (I have a 5-machine LAN at home with a Linux firewall). &nbsp I decided to opt with NetBSD as they appeared to be like the "Debian of the BSD world", without the hype, and with a promise of "no code released before its time".

      I did not mean to simplify any security issues (believe me, with a cable modem and a box on the net 24/7, security is a supreme concern). &nbsp I only meant to say that there's alot of discussion out there that makes it seem as though the owner of the box can simply pick what is billed as a "secure" distribution and thus have no responsibility for learning about security nor the responsibility to diligently try to maintain a secure envirnoment. &nbsp No machine or software can do that for you.

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    2. Re:Curious... by thimo · · Score: 2

      At the time they were announcing the distro, those points were valid. Mind you, that was before Mandrake and Corel Linux and prob. even before Caldera hit the market (although I'm not sure about the last one). Stampede just had a lower profile than Mandrake and the others.

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  5. New distributions are good by noeld · · Score: 3
    I have heard a lot of people worry about some Linux company taking over the world and becomeing Micro$oft. This article is a good example of I think that this is doomed to failure.

    Not that some companies are not going to make lots of money and get a good return on their R&D dollars. Even end up being the number one linux supplier with all the cash that could mean.

    The difference between M$ windoze and Linux is that anyone can make a new distribution or even their own installation.

    Yep boys and girls if you do not like what you see on the shelf of your local brick and morter computer store, then roll your own.

    I also believe that these same effects are going to spread and continue this pattern. A few years ago it took millions of dollars to get into broadcast media and your could only reach those with in miles of your site. Now for ten bucks a month (or a few popup adds) you can reach millions of people all over the world.

    What a wonderful world we are building.

    Noel

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    1. Re:New distributions are good by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 2

      Stampede is not new! I have had it installed since September of 1998, and it was out for a while before then.

  6. Re:hardest problem for newbies by aTRaTiCa · · Score: 2

    Sometimes I wish a lot of the developers would start helping with already in progress distributions. Too many choices of distributions are coming out. I always believed we could make much more progress if we had 10 more developers on the slackware project making it easier, or 10 more on debian, mandrake or stampede. Don't get me wrong, I've used stampede and believe it's a great distribution. I'm just trying to say to al ot of the newbie developers to start developing *FOR* current systems. Why reinvent the wheel when we already have it. Why not make it 4 wheel drive? :)

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  7. The most important question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Does it run on Linux?

  8. Re:distribution after distribution.... by arivanov · · Score: 2

    Evolution:

    Corel -> RedHat -> Debian

    Time to evolve, I guess.

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  9. Re:The nicest thing by Luis+Casillas · · Score: 2
    This was not very voluntary on Stampede's part. Take a look at this old Slashdot story

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