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Stampede v0.90 Code Freeze
john wrote to us with the news that Stampede has announced a code freeze, effective as of Feb. 21, 2000. With the freeze in place, they will be attending to only bug reports and looking to do a stable release soon.
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Glad to hear the release is ready. Installation for a newbie is prolly the hardest thing to get right. It seems each day a new release from another Linux distro is making the installation process much easier...
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It seems like every distribution these days are aiming at making everything VERY easy for new users... sure hope they mean it, when they say power users.. RedHat used to be ok, but since redhat 6.1 you don't even get the option of using fdisk, but are instead presented with a vastly inferior partition manager...
Its nice to see that Linux distro's are beginning to "theme" themselves a little bit. We can only gain by such spread within the fold. Rather then chase the elusive dream of a "desktop-friendly" OS, we should be looking at how we can make ourselves more secure. In that respect, I would see Open-BSD as more of a worthy target then Windows. Face it people, Windows will endure. For example, I use Linux as a work server because of simple maths...NT+5CAL's+Exchange+5ExchangeCal's+ProxySer ver+ZetaFax= megabuck$ whereas Linux+Sendmail+Squid+HylaFax+Samba = nearly free (the only charge being the time learning them). Our challenge for the free *nixes should be to make them the OS of choice for home networks. As long as people use Office/SmartSuite at work it will be hard for them to justify the fuss in translating documents. However, show them how they can share their internet connection, how they can fax from any machine and you grab them. For example, I work a lot from home as a rep for Plaid Cymru and I do a lot of work faxing, e-mailing etc. Linux has revolutionised my work - but I still use Lotus SmartSuite on a WIn98 client. Not from any anti-M$ bias but because I have 3 years of work in it! Its just not feasible to swap so swiftly. Grab the home network market and lever that - rather then chase the elusive "Windows" user. In that respect, distro's like Stampede and SlackWare pay a very important role. And me.... I use RedHat because thats what I bought when I first heard of this "Linux thingy"! I bought 5.1 when it was already quite old. I ain't interested in flaming an OS, I just want to work effectively. That is the goal we should be chasing! "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".
...Upgrade now to Schrodingers Dog...
Hi,
I've just discovered Stampede's homepage, I had never heard about them before. From what I read, it seems to be a very nice & clean project.
There's just one thing that bugs me : they say, in their slogan, that they are "The First PGCC/Glibc Distribution Optimized for Speed!".
Isn't that precisely what Mandrake does (and does quite well IMHO) for monthes, if not years ?
No flame intended, I just want to open a thread about a Stampede/Mandrake comparison, discussing their respective merits. Oh well...
Stéphane
Instant Karma's gonna get you, Gonna knock you right on the head (John Lennon, 1970)
When they say power users, they mean people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance they can out of the system. Stampede was among the first distributions to bust out the pgcc compiler and compile as much as possible with it using the best optimizations. I've grown to distrust pgcc though, as it breaks certain programs still, and you are made to think the program does not work when it would when compiled with normal gcc.
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- There is no distribution optimized for newer machines. Lets face it, our new Pentium/K6/Whatever should not be running code optimized for a 386/486
- There is not really a distribution available that has updated packages and security as it's number one goals. This needed to happen.
- We feel that even the easiest distribution out there is not easy enough to install for the new user. If the Linux revolution is to take place, we need something easier to install and use than DOS/Win95.
Hmmm...   looking at these points, although they are commercial entities, Mandrake, Caldera, and CorelLinux seemed to have focussed on points #1 & #3, ie., optimizing for the newest boxen and making a "for-dummies" install program for win/dos users.   I have both Mandrake and Caldera and their main "selling point" (as it were) is to go after the win desktop market, so I don't see much new here except that Stampede is apparently not a traditional "corporate" entity like Macmillan, Caldera, or Corel.Item #2 seems confusing unless they are referring to the fact that if you choose to install the server features, you basically have an "open wide" system that needs to be locked down.
Over the past couple of months, I've seen some really bizarre comments about security and Linux and alot of it has to do with mixing up "server" with "workstation".   I know that Linux does both, but you can choose either via most of the install programs, and then take responsibility for securing the system in the manner required.
-- Win2k: "It's not so much that it's only 65,000 bugs, it's just that they stopped at 65,535 to prevent an overflow."
Not that some companies are not going to make lots of money and get a good return on their R&D dollars. Even end up being the number one linux supplier with all the cash that could mean.
The difference between M$ windoze and Linux is that anyone can make a new distribution or even their own installation.
Yep boys and girls if you do not like what you see on the shelf of your local brick and morter computer store, then roll your own.
I also believe that these same effects are going to spread and continue this pattern. A few years ago it took millions of dollars to get into broadcast media and your could only reach those with in miles of your site. Now for ten bucks a month (or a few popup adds) you can reach millions of people all over the world.
What a wonderful world we are building.
Noel
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Does it run on Linux?
Note: Stampede Linux is not affiliated with Stampede Technologies in any way. If you came here looking for RAS software, please visit http://www.stampede.com.
While this may seem like a small touch, with all the cyber-squating going on recently its nice to see someone point out that they are different from another company. Its free advertising for the other Stampede, I looked at their page just to see what it was!-Elendale (looking forward to stampede and what it will bring)
IANAT (I Am Not A Troll)
does anyone actually use *.SLP, most developers i've seen only use .tar.gz and RPM...
Yes, in the past we have not focused on the installer as much as we should have, I believe Matt's latest installer is much better than previous versions. However, I will still say that we need to focus a lot more energy on our installer because it does "suck" :)
/dev/lp* and /var/spool/lpd) in the 0.89 release.
The last installer that I myself tried (I install by hand now, so much easier) borked on lilo configuration and a number of other things. There were also problems with permissions/ownership of a few devices/directories (namely
I have plans to write a simple to use GUI installer, possibly using the gnome libs (this may require that we boot off the cd).
Hopefully I will have it done for our next release (not 0.90)
Jeff Stedfast
> I've grown to distrust pgcc though, as it breaks certain programs still, and you are made to think the program does not work when it would when compiled with normal gcc.
Yup, this is a really big problem IMHO. Distros that use pgcc as their default compiler are just support nightmares. I've seen many posts on the mailing lists I frequent from people having problems with Mandrake/pgcc, and then recompiling with gcc after someone suggests it, and everything working fine. When is everyone going to realize that gcc took all the sane optimizations from pgcc and rolled them into it's source??? I think pgcc is used because people don't understand this simple fact and don't know enough about the compiler options gcc offers.
Dodger_
Dear sir,
I hope I am not starting a flame war.
The matter with Stampede Linux is they are attempting to squeeze out every ounce of speed out of the linux code, short of re-writing the entire OS in the assembly language.
They have chosen to use pgcc because of those weird optimization. As weird as those optimizations are, they do work in term of Stampede Linux.
I understand that the use of pgcc contributes to many problems, but that is a tradeoff.
My only hope that one day gcc give as much optimization as pgcc, with less weirdness involved.
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