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ACS Adds Nanotech Division

Phase Shifter writes, " The Materials subdivision within the American Chemical Society's Industrial & Engineering Chemistry division has now become the Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology subdivision. This means that ACS members researching into nanotech now have their own forum for information exchange, where previously it was scattered among several different divisions. Hopefully we'll be seeing faster progress in the field as a result. "

117 comments

  1. Re:Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's okay, all you have to do is line your hat with tin foil and sew copper wire into the seams of all your clothes. Then the nanobots can't get you.

  2. totally off topic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe this is a ploy.
    since this is a Microsoft site for there xbox console and ook they they are running LINUX
    Maybe they want it to be unsecure so they can blame it on linux?

  3. Re:Perhaps they could benefit from consulting a NI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Found:
    One pair of slightly used nunchuku on #2 line December 18th. Please identify engraving, distinguishing blood stains and station believed lost near.

    Contact Jake Graham at (718)994-6036, or email to lostandfound@mta.nyc.ny.us.

  4. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not afraid of you, pancake. I will continue to eat you.

  5. NINJA cock is little cock... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use NINJA cock to pick teeth,,,

  6. CLOSE ENOUGH Il Duce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0




    (The borough known as
    'Brooklyn' is in
    New York City Ed.)

  7. Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I would like to comment on your comment on my comment regarding the appreciation of my comment on your comment on that development.

    P.S. My doctor said I can't ave bread or mead, but tanks anyway.

    - Bobby Bobson
    Yu Suzuki 2000

  8. Re:Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's okay, all you have to do is line your hat with tin foil and sew copper wire into the seams of all your clothes. Then the nanobots can't get you.

    No, no no! That's how you stop extra-terrestrials from tele-pathetically controlling you!

    To stop the nanobots, you have to smear yourself with mud made from dirt and heavy-water. When they try to digest this gunk to get at you and try to incorporate the heavy water into themselves, the different physical properties of heavy hydrogen to ordinary hydrogen will cause them to jam up.

    Feel free to plagarise this posting if you want to write a Sci-Fi story on the subject.

  9. Yeah, moderate T'is up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Great book; I loved it. Tee hee.

    L.D.

  10. Re:FUCK YOUR "little nitpick" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez, I try to be nice and what happens? I get my head bitten off at the waist.

    Next time, you little crap-happy monkey-fuck, actually THINK before you post. Everyone else does, and it seems to be working.

  11. Re:I am a ninja, but yet, I like pancakes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not a NINJA. I am a BRICK. I do not have feelings. But I like pancakes. (Damn, gave myself away!)

    - A Stealth Ninja

  12. If youre a ninja who likes pancakes, its O.K. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Its O.K. if you like pancakes. You can still be a ninja and eat as many pancakes, waffles and flapjacks you want.

    Infact, here's a link to get you started:

    Syrup For Ninjas To Enjoy, From Vermont!

    1. Re:If youre a ninja who likes pancakes, its O.K. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the biggest problem ninjas have, generally, is that no one seems to accept them for who they really are inside -- Human beings who simply enjoy breakfast pastries such as flapjacks, waffles and pancakes.

      Its just odd..the same society says grits are ok for ninjas to eat, but NOT pancakes. Talk about social hypocracy!

    2. Re:If youre a ninja who likes pancakes, its O.K. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

      - A hypocritical ninja

  13. Potential uses for nanotec...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've eard a lot about nanotecnology, but I'm still not quite clear on wat it would be used for. I brainstormed a few tings I tougt would be prime applications of nanotecnology; am I rigt or wrong on tese?

    • Creating tiny microbes to eat up bacteria, or to perform surgery.
    • Cures for currently incurable diseases, such as sypillis or Dutc rubs.
    • Weaponry. Ate to mention it, but it's true.
    • Creating tangerine-flavored gummi bears for the enjoyment of cildren all the world over.
    • Bio-engineering of stronger, ealthier crops tat can provide food more efficiently.
    • Very large socks.
    • Modification of uman speec patterns to eliminate the letter 'H', known as te devil's letter.
    • Faster, more powerful iMacs in sinier, prettier new colors.
    • Clones of ESR. O yea.
    • Creation of the first post to receive the "Illegal" moderation tag.
    • Artifical members of endangered species? Not enough umpback wales? Just make some in the lab!
    • Yu Suzuki, naked and petrified.
    • A raccoon on the top of your computer, my computer, and the computer of every man, woman, and cild in America.

    Anyone want to add to this list? Tanks.

  14. Yes, I would like to comment on that development. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to comment on that development.

    - A ninja.

  15. No really ...you think so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF do you think drives scientific advancement.... Might as well say it's dark at night...it's just as fucking obvious...

    1. Re:No really ...you think so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      scientific advancement is advancement tat is scientific

  16. YOU MAY SUCK MY HAIRY COCK!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOUR GAY POEMS HAVE NO EFFECT, BESIDES THE OCCASIONAL YAWN.
    PLEASE GIVE UP, YOU WORM!!!

    MOO FUCKAZ

  17. HEMOS' MOM IS A PANCAKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She is always being eaten by NINJAS

  18. In other words...you are a gay commie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You may now fuck Hemos' ass...again...

  19. Re:hate/jelousy - food/energy - peace/war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I mean, look at the klans in America. They are white, they have more opportunities than the "colored" minorities, and yet, the klans just lourvvvves to showcase their hate publicly.

    The Klan is almost exclusively composed of whites who are young and/or poor. In other words, not economically powerful. Their specific targets tend to be minorities who have or are in the process of aquiring greater economic power.

    The real motivation behind most of this sort of thing, as behind most wars, is economic in nature (though envy does not necessarily come into it). Race hatred and religion and such just provide a pretext.

  20. Just a little nitpick, if you don't mind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your Cornell link isn't working.

  21. Re:Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'll be perfectly honest, I've never heard of either the American Chemical Society or its Advanced Material and Nanotechnology subdivision. How do we know this isn't actually a "front" for some larger, more insidious group like the NSA or that one cloning place?

    Yeah! And how do we know that the ACM isn't a front to allow the FBI to keep track of all the hackers?

    Look, get real. If you don't know what the ACS is, why don't you do some fucking research and figure it out, rather than spewing your uninformed paranoid whining onto Slashdot?

  22. Re:Perhaps they could benefit from consulting a NI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sounds sweet

  23. Re:I am a ninja, but yet, I like pancakes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    I am a ninja.

    I also happen to enjoy pancakes. Is that so wrong?
    Cant a ninja enjoy pancakes? Does that make me silly? Does it affect how you think of me? Does it make you think less of me as a human being? The fact that I am a NINJA, but yes, I like pancakes? Since when did this country become so intolerant of pancake-eating ninjas? Am I missing something here? I just dont know anything anymore. I dont know what you think about me, but I can tell you for damn sure what >I am talking about. I'm talking about FORM. I'm talking about CONTENT. I'm talking about INTERRELATIONSHIPS. I'M TALKING ABOUT GOD, THE DEVIL, HELL, HEAVEN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? FINALLY??????

  24. DAMNIT, I WAS BORN THIS WAY. I DIDNT "CHOOSE" IT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    I have ALWAYS known, even from my earliest memories of childhood, that I liked pancakes. Its not a lifestyle choice, people. You're born that way.

    - A pancake eating NINJA

  25. Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Don't you think we should be a little more careful before racing to embrace this? I'll be perfectly honest, I've never heard of either the American Chemical Society or its Advanced Material and Nanotechnology subdivision. How do we know this isn't actually a "front" for some larger, more insidious group like the NSA or that one cloning place? I'm sure they'd both love to get their hands on nanotechnology.

    This whole agency seems just a bit suspicious -- according to their page, they've got a European division, even though they claim to be the American Chemical Society. There's nothing wrong with having a European division, of course, but why the name? Is there something that they're doing that they don't want us to know about? Just think about all the nefarious uses for nanotechnology, like a super-precise laser gun or a killer virus. The ACS's Spring news page seems to take credit for creating the Y2K bug; if they accomplished that without nanotechnology, who knows what they'll have in store for us next?

    Just some food for thought. Thanks for your time.

    1. Re:Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What village are depriving of their idiot?

    2. Re:Ulterior motives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been watching 'Pure Genious' with Val Kilmer again, haven't you?? If the CIA didn't want you to suspect them, you wouldn't..

    3. Re:Ulterior motives? by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know about all the possible Illuminati overlords that could be controlling the ACS, but on any level of rational thinking, they are not some shawdow industry puppet. The ACS is not a chemists organization, they are the chemists organization. They have been around for a hundred years now, I would think. Also, they are generally pretty liberal...read their book "The chemistry of mind altering substances".

      Linus Pauling was a president of them for a while...I am not sure about that, although they could have swerved to the right in the forty years since his heydey. BTW, you all know who Linus Pauling is, don't you?

      --
      Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
  26. Re:Potential uses for nanotech -- for NINJAS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just think about all the advances that it could bring to the NINJA community.

  27. Small machine wars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sound like those micro machine car thingies. Both, can do a limited amount of things, however you can step on them so easily or they just run into a wall. I suppose you could make billions and billions and billions to counter this,however so many things could do the same thing CHEAPER. Make lots of Love not war. Lock the warheads up somebody Old Hippy

  28. I would like to comment on that comment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I would like to comment on that comment on that development.

    - Another ninja.

  29. Re:If youre a ninja who likes pancakes, HEMOS SUXX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Hey Hemos!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what????

    H E M O S S U X X X X X X X

    AOL f043V3R

  30. In other words....blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just want attention..blah blah blah...you are a gay commie.....blah blah blah

  31. Re:I appreciated your comment on that comment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I appreciated your comment on the last comment. Do you care to comment further? Or comment on my appreciation, perhaps?

  32. FUCK YOUR "little nitpick" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just leave me the fuck alone......

  33. "umpback whales"?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that like the referee nose dolphin...???

  34. Swamp Gas by the Duke of Earl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UV in sunlight would probably
    ignite the H+ to which you allude,
    but think of the fun you could
    have with an E coli infection
    that puts you into insulin shock

    W/regards to nonotech *harumph*
    Been dreamin'
    much about 7 of 9
    biting your neck?

  35. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Hum, I guess people don't have any sense of humor on /. anymore.

  36. Re:Nanotechnology-Protect yourself now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is in the interest of your personal safety that you read this. My name is Amadou. I was shot to death by N.Y. police officers for fitting the 'description' of a rapist. That is to say I was a person with dark skin. I was shot because my skin color mistakenly identified me as someone who might possess a gun and attempt to shoot police officers. I had no gun. I had no gun and now I am dead because I was unfortunate enough to have dark skin color matching that of a rapist. The New York police officers believed I would shoot them because of my skin color. The belief of danger means the four police officers were legally entitled to shoot me 46 times. I am dead. I had no gun. I was not a rapist. The police officers who shot me are found NOT GUILTY of any of the charges brought against them arising out of my murder. I was unfortunate enough to have dark skin and to find myself in front of a firing squad of white police officers who mistook me for a rapist with a gun about to shoot them. I still have dark skin but now I am dead. The officers walk free. They can shoot you next. They need only believe you to be a threat. I hope that you do not have dark skin.

  37. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    watch star trek. borg nano-probes are nano-tech

  38. Re:Perhaps they could benefit from consulting a NI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, sure, you have an opinion... but are you really a NINJA?

    Else you are not qualified to speak.

  39. Re:I am a ninja, but yet, I like pancakes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Only a NINJA understands the feelings of other NINJAS. Its the duty of every NINJA to help other NINJA through various 12-step programs to aid in their recovery. The first step is to acknowledge that yes, you are a NINJA, and you will always be a NINJA no matter how hard you try not to be.

  40. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree. Ninjas have feelings too.

    - A Ninja

  41. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    I also have feelings.

    - Another Ninja

  42. let's see if this works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes
    i am a NINJA. i like pancakes

    nope; i still have tangerine-flavored gummi bears stuck in my nose

  43. Awesome idea, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...will tey come wit raccoons on top of tem? We cannot rest until tere is a raccoon on top of my computer, on top of your computer, and on top of the computer of every man, woman, and cild in America.

    P.S. I like tangerine-flavored Gummi Bears.

  44. Re:If youre a ninja who likes pancakes, HEMOS SUXX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My sources tell me that Jon Katz also suxxx.

    - A wise ninja

  45. MODERATE TIS UP. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VERY INSIGTFUL POST.

  46. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I would like to comment on your appreciation of my comment on your comment on that development.

    P.S. Do you have any tangerine-flavored Gummi Bears?

  47. Re:I agree! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would also like to comment on your comment regarding my appreciation of your comment on my comment on that development.

    And no, I do not have any tangerine-flavored Gummi Bears. I do have bread and mead, tho.

  48. Re:Graveyard Poem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, leave Stuart out of this. He may be a ninja, but, that doesn't mean he's a bad teacher.

    highbrigh!

  49. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well if you've read previous articles we aren't that far from making algea produce hydrogen gas... hence it's already accounted for. Also, by just "dropping" into a pond probably won't do much good since the government only allows us to experiment w/ DNA that is weakened. Hence, the cells will die easier than other cells if accidently released into the environment.

  50. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    I, too, have feelings.

    - Yet Another Ninja

  51. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    SOMEONE MODERATE TIS DOWN; E AS DISOBEYED THE WILL OF THE DIVINE YU SUZUKI

    Remember, 'H' is the devil's letter!

  52. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas--and teamsters, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Count us in...We have feelings too.

    - Ninja Teamster's Union Local 282 Brooklyn, NJ

  53. nooooooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I used the letter 'H'! Twice! I must now suffer 20 years in purgatory and pay a 50,000 tangerine-flavored gummi bear fine to receive Yu Suzuki's forgiveness.

    I ave failed my own teacings :(. I owe the world an apology.

    From the bottom of my broken eart,
    Yu Suzuki's #1 Fan

  54. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have feelings too. And you get that DAMN SYRUP AWAY FROM ME!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT FORK?!?!?

    - Formerly A Pancake

  55. The skinny by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 0



    Here is what is from the website:

    Industrial & Engineering
    Chemical Division

    Spring 2000

    Nancy Jackson, Editor

    CONTENTS

    Message from the Chair
    New Technical Subdivision
    ACS San Francisco National Meeting
    I&EC and Corporation Associates Consider Joint Vision 2020 Programming
    Meetings of Interest
    From the Councilors
    * Melanie Lesko
    * Bob Stowe
    * Kathleen Schulz
    ACS Professional Liability Insurance Plan
    I&EC Officers

    Message from the Chair

    I saw a joke posted recently that read "Y2K, brought to you by the same folks that gave us a two-digit date field!". By now I hope that all of you and your respective workplaces have safely weathered the infamous date roll-over. The joke points out that even when we recognize a problem, we are often so used to our habitual way of doing things that even the solutions fall back into the old ways of doing things. As I move into the Chair position of this Division, I am keenly aware of that tendency. Sometimes it seems as if we are going in circles, instead of in a line directed at our desired future.

    The only way out of that predicament is to keep reminding ourselves of what our real goals are, in their essential elements, and why we want them. As Chair, I want to make this Division relevant to you and your careers as well as to my own. The key to any professional society is the voluntary membership and their efforts to improve their professional standing in the community at large. We try to do that in the I&EC Division by providing forums for the exchange of important new information, networking with other professionals, and interacting with the American Chemical Society in developing policy positions for public consumption. We need each member, as always, to help in any way they can to promote our activities in your own self-interest. If it is no longer of interest to you, tell us why, and help us change that. If it is of interest, lend us your support by attending meetings, volunteering to help in one of the many committees required to maintain the Division, and just by encouraging other chemists
    and engineers to sign up for membership in our Division.

    Exciting news from our last National meeting is a strengthening of the visibility and position of our three sub-divisions. Along with our general programming in leading technologies, you may be interested in concentrated programming efforts in Separations, Materials, or Green Chemistry topics. Interact on a more personal level with other scientists working in areas directly related to your interests and job relevance. As much of the world revels in the turn of the millennium, remember that our jobs and interests in the chemical sciences are more important that ever to the fulfillment of many of their dreams. It's going to be a great time to be working in this field. Being an active participant in the I&EC Division is going to be an exciting and fulfilling part of it.

    Steven Cooke, Chair

    A New Technical Subdivision
    Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology

    The I&EC division is pleased to announce the formation of a new Subdivision of Advanced Materials and Nanotechnology which will be chaired by Robert C. Haddon, University of Kentucky, with co-chair Joop Schoonman, University of Delft (Netherlands). Elisabeth Lutanie, American Chemical Society, is the Program Coordinator and one of the founders of the subdivision. Research areas covered by the subdivision include

    * carbon nanoscience, including fullerenes and carbon nanotubes

    * molecular-scale electronic devices, including wires and components

    * molecular self-assembly, with particular emphasis on organized structures and machines,

    * quantum size effects, including electronic and photonic phenomena

    * nanotechnologies, including lithographies, microscopies and manipulators

    * crystal engineering, including detailed architectures for electronic and photonic applications

    * engineering of nanoscale dots, films, and 3-dimensional structures

    * molecular-scale biomedical engineering

    The objectives of this Subdivision shall be to provide a forum for the presentation and discussion of research in the field of advanced materials and nanotechnology, and to encourage interaction and partnership between academic and industrial institutions working on the chemical aspects of this area of science. In addition, the subdivision will work to increase the diffusion of recent research and technology advances through the development of a portfolio of symposia dedicated to topical issues on advanced materials and nanotechnology-possibly but not exclusively in association with national and regional ACS meetings.

    The subdivision will also encourage research into all aspects of advanced materials and nanotechnology, and promote the development of interdisciplinary and international scientific
    collaborations in these areas. This will be fostered by having U.S. and European co-chairs and
    by identifying a liaison to the American Chemical Society and the Materials Research Society. The subdivision will provide a basis for continuing education in this field for chemists and related scientists (including students).

    In addition, the subdivision will further public interest in nanotechnology and advanced materials and bring the importance of nanoscale science and technology and materials to the attention of the chemistry community at a strategic level. The subdivision plans to begin technical programming in the Fall 2000 ACS National Meeting (Washington, DC). For more information on how you can become involved contact Robert Haddon at haddon@pop.uky.edu.

    ACS San Francisco National Meeting

    San Francisco, March 26-31, 2000: More information about the technical program will be in
    Chemical & Engineering News Jan. 17 and Feb. 28 issues, or check the I&EC Symposia page on the
    ACS Server .

    * Business Opportunities in the Emerging Technologies

    * Emerging Technologies: Waste Management in the 21st Century.

    * Field-Enhanced Separations.

    * Molecular-Level Characterization in Separations

    * Activated Carbon Separations

    * Advanced Microfabricated Sensors,

    * Applications of Molecular Mechanics to Metal Complexes,

    * Applied Chemistry for the 21st Century,

    * Leo Friend Award Symposium

    San Francisco Symposium Highlight Leo Friend Award: Nontraditional Applications and Methods of
    Lithographic Patterning

    For the past 30 years, lithography has been the key technological driving force that has enabled the remarkable growth in the semiconductor industry; through increased miniaturization,
    both improved device performance and reduced cost can be simultaneously achieved. Many technological fields outside the traditional arena of silicon-based microelectronic devices can accrue similar benefits through miniaturization, and there are now significant efforts to apply lithographic techniques in these areas, and to devise alternate methods for patterning that potentially offer advantages in simplicity, cost and flexibility. The goal of this symposium is to provide an overview of many of the new lithographic fabrication technologies and applications for an audience unfamiliar with these topics; in particular, the intent is to be
    accessible to students and younger chemists. To achieve this, we have structured the symposium
    to first establish the scientific and technological context for lithography with summaries of the states-of-the-art, and views of the future, for conventional lithographic technology, imaging materials and applications. This will be followed by overviews of emerging methods and applications of lithographic patterning from leading researchers in those fields. Descriptions of emerging applications will include recent work on molecular logic gates, micromachining and microtransducers, and biochips. Descriptions of emerging methods will polymer self-assembly, micromirror technology, proximal probe and near-field ithographies, soft lithography, nano-scale embossing, and templating.

    Vision 2020

    I&EC and Corporation Associates Consider Joint Vision 2020 Programming on Chemical Industry Supply Chain at Fall 2000 National Meeting

    A chemical company's supply chain is the critical link between suppliers and producers, and producers and customers. As the chemical industry becomes more globally competitive, issues related to efficient supply chain management, like customer-driven scheduling; low-cost material handling, transportation, and storage; and lean manufacturing-based inventory and work-in-progress management become more critical to a company's success. In addition, business strategies that consider supply chain capabilities; case studies in benchmarking, information systems integration, best factory judging, SixSigma implementation, and change management; and modeling and simulation that support improvements in supply chain effectiveness are beginning to yield some interesting directions for change. Technology Vision 2020: The U.S. Chemical Industry predicts that by identifying change opportunities and "best practices" for chemical industry supply chains, managers hold the potential to increase their process output by more than 30%, reduce inventories by as much as 50%, and reduce costs like transportation, storage, and spoilage by up to 50% - all for little or no capital investment. Corporation Associates representatives will hear summary presentations from three experts noted for their work in this area at the CA open meeting in San Francisco on Monday March 27th. Presenters are listed below.

    * Thomas Parry is an Associate Partner in Andersen Consulting's Chemicals Operating Unit. Mr. Parry' work focuses on developing and implementing supply chain, eCommerce and channel strategies. He has extensive chemical and process industry experience and has authored "The Human Element, Creating High Performance Supply Chain Organizations in the Chemical Industry; Creating Value through Integrated Supply Chain Management; and Integrated Supply Chain Management, Supplying the Pieces."

    * Professor John T. Mentzer is the Bruce Excellence Chair of Business Policy and Distinguished Professor of Logistics at the University of Tennessee. Professor Mentzer is well known for his research work in supply chain forecasting and classes on sales forecasting management at the University's Management Development Center. His recent publications include articles in "Journal of Business Forecasting," "Marketing Management," "Business Horizons," and "Supply Chain Management Review."

    * Scott Barber is Dow Corning's Global Supply Chain Reengineering (SCORE) Manager, a member of the University of North Carolina Kenan-Flegler Business School's Global Supply Chain Management Advisory Board, and a member of the Supply Chain Council. Mr. Barber is currently responsible for creating and managing the SCORE expertise unit and designing supply chain optimization projects for his company.

    After the presentation CA's programming committee will decide whether they will co-sponsor a day long panel -- with I&EC's Technology Vision 2020 effort -- on Integrated Supply Chain Management. Plans for the Fall 2000 panel in Washington, DC include a participatory format of presentations and audience questions and answers on supply chain needs, challenges and opportunities for improvement. The panel will also include demonstrations of software programs and models that can improve your company's productivity. John Oleson, recently retired from Dow Corning and co author on the Supply Chain section of Technology Vision 2020: The U.S. Chemical Industry with Hank Whalen, Chair, ACS Board of Directors, will moderate the panel. Check your meeting agenda for San Francisco. I&EC Division members are invited to attend the CA open meeting for this presentation.

    Meetings of Interest

    ACS National Meeting, Washington, DC, August 20-24, 2000: I&EC Call for Papers

    Program Chairs: Ralph C Gatrone, NA, 5411-M Paddock Club Drive, Montgomery, AL 36116, (334)
    286-3639, fax (334) 286-3639, e-mail: r.gatrone @worldnet.att.net; Dianna Phillips, Kettering
    University, SM Department, 1700 West Third Avenue, Flint, MI 48504-4898, (810) 762-9920, fax
    (810) 762-9796, e-mail: Dphillip@kettering.edu

    Submit copy of abstract through Online abstract system (OASys) or by mailing one copy to
    symposium organizer.

    Responsible Care. Nancy Jackson, Sandia National Laboratories, PO Box 5800, MS 1349, Albuquerque, NM 87185, (505) 272-7619, fax (505) 272-7336, e-mail: nbjacks@sandia.gov

    Functional Nanostructures. Lawrence R. Sita, University of Maryland, Chemistry and Biochemistry, College Park, MD 20742, (301) 405-5753, fax (301) 314-9121, e-mail:
    ls214@umail.umd.edu

    Emerging Technologies: Hazardous Waste Management. Daniel W. Tedder, Georgia Institute of Technology, Chemical Engineering, Atlanta, GA 30322-0100, (404) 894-2856, fax (404) 894-2866, e-mail: daniel.tedder@che.gatech.edu

    Clean Solvents. Martin Abraham, University of Toledo, Chemical Engineering, Toledo, OH 43606,
    (419) 530-8092, e-mail: mabraham@eng.utoledo.edu; Luc Moens, National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Center for Chemistry of BioEnergy Systems, 1617 Cole Blvd, Golden, CO 80401-3393,
    (303) 384-6265, fax (303) 384-6103, e-mail: Luc_moens@nrel.gov

    Green Chemistry: Applications in Academia and Industry. Tracy C. Williamson, USEPA, OPPT, 401 M
    Street SW, Washington, DC 20460, (202) 260-2659, fax (202) 260-0816, e-mail: williamson.tracy@epa.gov; Paul T. Anastas, USEPA, OPPT, 401 M Street SW, Washington, DC 20460, (202) 260-2659, fax (202) 260-0816, e-mail: anastas.paul@epa.gov; Mary Kirchhoff, USEPA, OPPT,
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    General Poster Session. Andrew Bond, Argonne National Laboratory, Chemistry, Argonne, IL 60439,
    (630) 252-0957, fax (630) 252-7501, e-mail: ahbond@anl.gov

    Membranes Gordon Conference

    The Gordon Research Conference on Membranes: Materials and Processes will be held at
    Connecticut College in New London, CT from July 29-Aug. 3, 2000. The Conference Program is
    available at: http://www.grc.uri.edu/programs/2000/memmat.htm.

    Participants can obtain an application form by accessing the Gordon Conferences web site at
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    2000 International Chemical Congress of Pacific Basin Societies

    Chemists and chemical engineers in countries bordering the Pacific Ocean and in all other
    countries are invited to submit papers for consideration and to attend the 2000 International Chemical Congress of Pacific Basin Societies. Scheduled for 14-19 December 2000, in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, it is being cosponsored by the American Chemical Society, Chemical Society of
    Japan, the Canadian Society for Chemistry, the New Zealand Institute of Chemistry and the Royal Australian Chemical Institute. Many of the Chemical Societies in the countries that border the Pacific Ocean are Official Participating Organizations. Papers will be presented in symposia and in general oral and poster sessions in the 10 topical areas in which symposia are grouped (see web site for list). A few selected symposia will be for invited papers only. An abstract of approximately 150 words must be submitted for each contributed paper. The Congress abstract form is available for electronic retrieval and submission from the Pacifichem 2000 web site at: http://www.acs.org/meetings/pacific2000. Paper forms can be obtained by contacting the Congress
    Secretariat. The deadline for invited or contributed abstracts in paper format will be April 3. The deadline for abstracts submitted electronically will be April 14.

    From the Councilors

    Melanie J. Lesko, I&EC Councilor

    As a member of the Divisional Activities Committee (DAC), I reviewed eight other divisions'
    annual reports. Divisions must turn in these reports before they can receive their allocations
    back from ACS. Two divisions are fairly weak and may merge with others. DAC is considering
    re-instating the divisional awards program to provide more incentive to get the reports in on
    time.

    I am also on the DAC subcommittee reviewing secretariat guidelines, and have passed many
    questions along to our division leadership for their chance to provide input. I think the I&EC's concerns with secretariats operation are merited, but they are not as problematical for us as once thought. The DAC will be making recommendations for revised secretariat guidelines in an attempt to bring some commonality to all of them, but this may not be completely successful. They are a loose association of their own member divisions' representatives, so loose in fact that of the four secretariats none could name all their member divisions.

    For the fall 1999 ACS meeting in New Orleans I co-organized a symposium "Issues Facing Women
    Professionals" with Deborah Carter from Pace International. The symposium had 12 speakers from
    industry, academia and government, as well as one non-scientist, and was co-sponsored by the Women Chemists Committee (WCC) and the Younger Chemists Committee (YCC). Topics included a futuristic look at the workforce, international travel and assignments with trailing spouses, working in sales, balancing academic or industrial careers and family, finding jobs on the internet, and the new non-traditional careers blending disparate fields like business and physics, or chemistry and law. Attendance was respectable, and the material was valuable and interesting to both male and female audience.

    I continue to serve on the editorial board of "Chemistry," which combined the two older ACS
    publications "Reaction Times," geared toward college students, and "ACCESS," targeted toward
    ACS members. The articles have continued to be interesting and timely, informative to the
    students while giving ACS members a chance to sample chemistry fields other than their own. The
    editorial board meets at each ACS meeting, and by conference calls and e-mail.

    Thank you for your continued support in electing me to another term. I appreciate your comments
    and feedback at any time. I can be reached most conveniently by e-mail at
    leskom@tamug.tamu.edu.

    Robert A. Stowe, I&EC Councilor

    The 218thACS national meeting in New Orleans, with its 5,656 technical presentations, attracted
    11,734 attendees. The exposition featured 246 companies exhibiting products and services in 392
    booths. These numbers are high but are not records, except for the weather, which with its 100 F+ (38 C) and occasional downpours flooding over the curbs (typical of N.O. in the shank of
    the summer), may have set a record for a "FALL" meeting.

    President Ed Wasserman sponsored three Presidential Events at the meeting; on SUN AM, a 7 paper symposium predicting the impact of Food Chemistry in the 21st century and the 3rd millennium; SUN PM, a 5 paper session, organized by I&EC Past-Chair Nancy Jackson on "Visions of
    Materials", exploring the world of self-assembled materials; and finally, on SUN PM (5:30-7:00)
    a Presidential Reception celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Younger Chemists Committee
    entitled "Looking Back to the Future".

    Council accepted a new plan for redistricting to more evenly distribute the numbers of members
    in regions. It also agreed to a new schedule of registration fees for national meetings that
    will ensure that the meetings break even over a five-year period. A Bylaw change was passed,
    making member's anniversary date the date of entry into the active membership roll. This will
    eliminate delays in processing new and reinstated members and reduce the backlog around the
    current quarterly start dates. We passed another Bylaw change refining and defining the conditions under which Divisions may enter into affiliations with other Technical
    Organizations.

    Since the meeting the election has been held and Attila Pavlath triumphed in a close race over
    Alan Schriesheim, with only 18% of the more than 153,000 members voting. Pretty sad but not as
    bad as recent I&EC elections.

    James D. Burke, manager of technical recruiting and university relations at Rohm and Haas,
    Spring House, Pa., and C. Gordon McCarty, retired manager of university relations at Bayer
    Corp., Pittsburgh, will serve their first 3-yr. terms as directors-at-large. They defeated
    incumbent Lura Powell, NIST and Valerie Kuck, Lucent Technologies. Pavlath, Powell and Kuck are
    members of I&EC.

    I am now serving on the Committee for Technician Activities which is dealing with a wide range
    of concerns, problems and programs regarding chemical technicians and their relatively new
    Division of Chemical Technicians.

    The Dept. of Career Services (DCS) continued to expand its services to the membership. The DCS,
    along with volunteer Career Consultants (CCs), conducted mock interview sessions and reviewed
    resumes, and the NECH, improved by computerized scheduling, allowed 1000 job seekers to have
    3,049 interviews for 513 positions. I don't have the numbers for one-on-one resumes and mock
    interviews at the meeting but the 1999 year numbers are impressive. Over 1,000 members received one-on-one career assistance, including 541 resume reviews at national and regional meetings,
    130 in house reviews, 226 mock interview sessions and 146 career consulting cases.

    I had extra duty at the N.O. Mtg., having committed to managing the Graduate Student Award
    Luncheon and Ceremony. We had sought nominations from the Chemistry and Chemical Engineering
    Depts. at both LSU and Tulane and from the combind dept. at Univ. of N.O. Each department
    nominated their top graduate student who was planning a chemical career in industry. When the
    judging was over there was no clear-cut winner; they were all outstanding. We finally decided
    to give the Award, a one-year membership in the ACS, to each of them. The candidates and their
    mentors were entertained at a luncheon, overlooking the Mississippi. Many supporting members and guests applauded as our Chair, Robin Rogers performed flawlessly as host, presenting
    plaques to the Students and Certificates for the schools to the Mentors. The extra cost of five
    honorees instead of one was covered by additional support by institutional and private gifts.
    It was clear from the feedback that his event was highly successful and should be repeated. The
    Graduate Student Awards Committee is studying strategies for continuation.

    I believe that I am detecting a groundswell of change amongst the various Divisions and their
    members. There seems to be a rush to get in on the challenges and rewards of programming to
    appeal to industrial types, witness the titles and industrial slant of symposia from
    non-applied divisions. Meanwhile, we in I&EC are striving to identify ourselves and focus our
    efforts. I believe we are getting the job done but we all need feedback from our loyal members.
    Getting involved is truly rewarding.

    I promised last time to give you my definition of an industrial chemist or chemical engineer.
    To me it is fairly simple. Anyone with training or education in chemistry or chemical
    engineering and who is employed in industry is an industrial chemist or chemical engineer.

    HELLO out there! Every once in awhile someone responds to these efforts to bring the highlights
    of the National Meeting to you and to the expressions of my take on sometimes controversial
    subjects. Thanks a lot - it warms my heart. Let me hear from you. What is your definition of an
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    Happy New Year to all of you! By the time you receive this, I hope each of you is well into a
    happy, prosperous New Year. First, thank you for re-electing me as your Councilor! I am indeed
    honored to have the opportunity to represent you and the interests of I&EC Division in the
    Council. As I said in my statement last fall, it is important that Division Councilors be
    especially active and visible, since less than 100 of the 450+ Councilors represent Divisions.
    In that regard, I pledge to continue my record of very active participation by maintaining my
    record of attending 100% of council meetings, seeking out opportunities and participating in
    national ACS committees and task forces.

    In that regard, so far this year I have agreed to:

    * Continue to serve as Sr. Advisor to I&EC's Membership Committee.

    * Work with Nancy Jackson to update PR materials for I&EC Division.

    * Accept an invitation from outgoing Pres. Ed Wasserman to serve on a task force to evaluate
    the Society's support to divisions and local sections. The eight member task force, which will be chaired by Paul Walter (ACS Pres. in 1998) was given this charge: "...reflect on our past as a Society, analyze its current state, and recommend a path for future directions. The recommendation of this task force could have significant implications for Society operations well into the next century."

    * Serve on the Board of Trustees of the ACS Member Insurance Plans (my second year with that group), to monitor insurance related activities and offerings, and provide input to help assure that ACS insurance offerings meet members' needs.

    * Chair the Local Section Activities Committee (for a second year ). This includes participating in leadership conferences (training new local section officers); activities related to National Chemistry Week Task Force and Sr. Chemists Task Force; plus serving on the ACS Advisory Board for Industry Relations.

    As you can see, it promises to be a busy year. But, I enjoy these opportunities to represent
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  56. ACS members by Sri+Lumpa · · Score: 0
    This means that ACS members researching into nanotech now have their own forum for information exchange, where previously it was scattered between several different divisions.

    Hey, AC'S can now have their own forum instead of being scattered between different stories. Instead of having to search for Hot Grits all throughtout Slashdot they can just go to one place. This surely will help advancing the search for a petrified form of famous actresses and advance the state of the art of hot grit pouring techniques, but I wonder what that has got to do with nanotech???

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    1. Re:ACS members by Kiz315 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely nothing.

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  57. Re:Nanotechnology by trollking · · Score: 0
    I disagree. I think nanotechnology can be used to avert poverty and energy shortages, the major causes of war.

    The Wright brothers thought that the invention of the airplane would end war, but it obviously has not.

    In addition to those things you have nationalism, deeply rooted hatred that has built up over generations, racial and ethnic prejudice, people trying to increase their wealth and power.


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  58. Nanotechnology by trollking · · Score: 0

    Unfortuneatly nanotechnology will probably be exploited for unssavory purposes, like war.


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    1. Re:Nanotechnology by freddie · · Score: 1

      Now that china has our Nuclear technology, however, the forces of peace, freedom and television need the ultra-force of Nanotech to gain leverage!

    2. Re:Nanotechnology by PD · · Score: 1

      And Linus thought that the invention of the Linux kernel would end war too. Sadly, he was wrong. :-)

      Trollking, you've got a good point. Nationalism is something we hardly understand here in the United States. We understand money, and grew up with the saying "the root of all evil is the love of money" and so we attribute all evils to it. Don't get me wrong, money is a huge cause of problems, and nanotech might possibly be a tool that could reduce all those problems. But we must not be naive and thing that this is the invention that will end all wars. It is not, and could be used to make war even more horrible than it already is.

      I don't want to sound pessimistic. The world after the invention of nanotech will be better than the world before the invention. But it will not be a perfect world with no war.

    3. Re:Nanotechnology by cr0sh · · Score: 1

      I can't comment on Nitro - I don't know if it was a Mil tech first or not.

      Computers are a more difficult subject - it depends on where you look. ENIAC was designed to produce trajectory calculations for World War II, but electronic computers go back further than it - the ABC and Konrad Zuse's machines date further back (Zuse even tried to interest the Nazi party in computers for the war - thankfully, they declined). If you want to consider designs for programmable computers, then Babbages Analytical Engine would most certainly qualify (though it was mechanical, and not electronic or electrical). What you are thinking of the intricate patterns being woven is probably a mis-quote, or someone told you wrong - Babbage got the idea of using punch cards after seeing how a Jaquard loom used similar cards to weave intricate patterns in cloth - he figured that if the punch cards could control the operation of a loom, then it could control his machines as well.

      Penecillan was developed somewhere between World War I and the Korean War - and first used to treat infection on a large scale during the Korean War (incidentally, I would say it was this development, and the MASH units, that really revolutionized war, in the caring for the injured quickly, at least). Sulfa based drugs had been developed earlier, but weren't as effective (?)...

      Space capable rockets? The German V2 approached the edge of space, and there were plans (I have seen very little about them, but they exist) to build something called the "Antipodal Bomber" - essentially a suicide bombing run, using a dual stage modified V2, to put a pilot in a sub-orbital trajectory, where he could "skip" off the outer atmosperic layers, to prolong his course, and then angle sharply downward to explode a 1000 pound bomb in New York City. This was on the drawing boards, but never went past the concept stage.

      Lastly, your comment on DARPAnet is wrong - the internet sprouted from the ARPAnet, a project whose goal was to connect various research campuses via computer at different universities across the country, using the phone system. It was never meant to withstand a nuclear war - this wasn't even a concern. It was meant to give researchers a way to share computing power with each other. DARPAnet (now .mil net?) was started as a seperate network from the infant internet back in the 70's (IIRC - I may be wrong on this) - I am not sure on it's capabilities (it may be designed with nuclear war strikes in mind).

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    4. Re:Nanotechnology by Asparfame · · Score: 1
      I disagree. I think nanotechnology can be used to avert poverty and energy shortages, the major causes of war.

      After all, hate is just an expression of frustration/jealosy. If you have enough food/energy, you won't wage war.

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    5. Re:Nanotechnology by Nyarly · · Score: 1
      First saleable use of technology:


      As much as I love to hate the War Machine, I have to question the accuracy of your assertion. Can you document these, especially against these top-of-my-head alternatives:

      • Nitroglycerine: Military munitions. or construction demolitions, especially train tunnels.
      • Computers: Military codebreaking, artillery trajectory computation.I've always been taught that the earliest Von Neumann computer was desgined to weave intricate fabrics. And then there's the Pascal calculator.
      • Penicillin: Treating war wounds or any infection; this especially beg documentation
      • Space-capable rockets: Ballistic missiles. I always understood that the first Space-capable rocket put Sputnik in orbit, and that ICMBs follow much later.

      Aircraft and Submarines I'll grant. The DC-9 was a military transport far before it became a passenger craft, and submarines were a military fantasy long before anyone cared about laying cable or exploring the ocean floor. However, consider:

      • Bioengineering, a Johnny-come-lately in warefare
      • Internal combustion, which was on America's throughways long before the High Command would give up cavalry charges.
      • Lasers, which have military targetting applications, end of list. Their scientific applications have been myriad since their inception.
      • Photography, including movies, which wasn't used in warfare until it'd been around for decades. (More if you count the Camera Obscura.)
      • A whole host of specialized developements without military application. MRI, radiation therapy, Silly Putty, lay-flat binding, espresso. Wide ranging, not all practical exactly, but certainly not military.
      • And then the tech that the military wanted but couldn't put to a good use. You're looking at one of them. Hardly profound, but DARPAnet was originally a military project.

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    6. Re:Nanotechnology by Nyarly · · Score: 1
      What you are thinking of the intricate patterns being woven is probably a mis-quote, or someone told you wrong

      Actually, the Jacquard Loom has been presented to me on a number of occasions as the first von Neumann machine. It fetched instructions from wooden cards, decoded them mechanically, and then performed operations on warp and weave. As far as actual implimentations of Turing machines go, von Neumanns are pretty much it.

      The German V2 approached the edge of space,

      The V2 reached the edge of orbit, but was never capable of putting anything in orbit. And as much as Werner von Braun was instrumental in the US spcae program, Cosmograd had Sputnik blipping along before we had anything in orbit.

      Finally, every history I've read of DARPA and ARPAnet has related them initimately, usually suggesting that the military had been working on ARPANet for longer than they let on (big surprise) and that they'd asked the academics into it. Furthermore, part of ARPANet's mission was designed around having a headless communication network that would continue to transmit orders and intelligence around holes (like those created by nuclear strikes), which accounts for much of the research into modern packet switching. I suspect we may be at opposite sides of the elephant on this one, though.

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    7. Re:Nanotechnology by The+Fish · · Score: 1

      That's a very simplistic view. (and on some points incorrect since germany DIDN'T start the first world war.)

    8. Re:Nanotechnology by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2
      • A whole host of specialized developements without military application. MRI, radiation therapy, Silly Putty, lay-flat binding, espresso. Wide ranging, not all practical exactly, but certainly not military.
      • And then the tech that the military wanted but couldn't put to a good use. You're looking at one of them. Hardly profound, but DARPAnet was originally a military project.
      Actually, Silly Putty falls into that last category too. It was developed from military research into rubber substitutes.
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    9. Re:Nanotechnology by MosesJones · · Score: 2


      Umm in the 17th,18th & 19th centurys the Brits had bags of food, bags of Energy and decided to invade pretty much every one on planet earth. The French and Spanish tried the same, in this century Germany started two world wars and they had energy and food. The US went to war in Vietnam and Nato went to Iraq.

      The military always find a reason to go to war, and a reason to fund scientific research. The first use of most technologies are for the military.

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    10. Re:Nanotechnology by technos · · Score: 4

      First saleable use of technology:

      Aircraft: Military scouting/surveillance
      Nitroglycerine: Military munitions.
      Computers: Military codebreaking, artillery trajectory computation.
      Penicillin: Treating war wounds
      Space-capable rockets: Ballistic missiles.
      Submarine: Military spy vehicle, war machine

      I think the Troll King has a valid point. Any new technology is optioned for and funded by the military first, regardless of the infinite number of peaceful uses. I'd expect one of the 'black budget' projects to actually get something akin to nanites working.

      Project A1017, codename Alephnul. Covert infiltration, surveillance, and elimination of Known Foreign Hostiles through use of self-replicating micro-miniature nanostructures.

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  59. Re:Graveyard Poem by Microsoft+Rules · · Score: 0

    I bet you really like him.
    I bet you really might be him.


    "Probability. You know, like two to one, three to one, five to
    four against. It said two to the power of one hundred thousand to
    one against. That's pretty improbable you know."


    You are probably Stuart
    Do you what he really is ?
    Do you know who else is that?

    Hint.. The most hated author on /.

    It's a real shame he works for us while having these faggish little Commie views. I bet all of you have those views. Right? Little libertarian bastards.



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  60. Re:Graveyard Poem by Microsoft+Rules · · Score: 0

    This poem is dedicated to this summer - which is the summer of freedom. It is time to celebrate being free and what it really means. The fact that we are all here
    means we are already a step ahead of society. Everyone celebrate and help spread the feeling of freedom. This is only the beginning of this poem, add whatever you
    like. love to you all...
    Freedom is to dance wherever, whenever
    Freedom is to looke someone in the eyes and smile Freedom is to moan in pure ecstasy
    Freedom is to shout full of bursting, bubbling energy Freedom is hugs without expectations
    Freedom is to cry at beauty
    Freedom is to question reality
    Freedom is to have tears streaming down your face whil walking alone Freedom is to love and raise your hands in the air and sing that lovely song, hum that tune,
    scream or be silent
    Freedom has no need to compete
    Freedom is to be
    Freedom is about respecting yourself
    Freedom gives everyone the right to create Freedom is light
    Freedom is loving yourself
    Freedom is accepting faults
    Freedom is to believe
    Freedom is to imagine anything you please Freedom is shouting "everyone is beautiful!"
    Freedom is stating your mind
    Freedom is dreaming
    Freedom knows no limits
    Freedom is blue
    Freedom comes from Redmond

    Do you have anything in Blue, with a nice square logo and the words "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" on it? BTW, UofA sucks bad! Man! Can someone get rid of Stuart Reges.. I hate to see him on Redmond every 3rd week.


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  61. Graveyard Poem by Microsoft+Rules · · Score: 0

    It was the greatest night of my life.
    Although I still had not found a wife
    I had my friends
    Right there beside me.
    We were close together.
    We tripped the wall and we scaled the graveyard
    Ancient shapes were all around us.
    The wet dew felt fresh beside the fog.
    Two made love in an ancient spot
    One chased a rabbit into the dark
    A girl got drunk and balled the dead
    And I gave empty sermons to my head.
    Cemetary, cool and quiet
    Hate to leave your sacred lay
    Dread the milky coming of the day.

    Propaganda, Propaganda, Oh Pro, Propa, Propaganda...


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    1. Re:Graveyard Poem by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1

      You want me to buy you a t-shirt or something?

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  62. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    "Woops we just had a big lightning storm and half the United States burnt to the ground!!"

    ... and exactly how would this be a bad thing?

    - SnoTroller

  63. Masturbate a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    By the time you grow up you will realize that nothing matters.....

  64. Of course I know who Linus Pauling is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...he created the Linux kernel, for cryin' out loud!

    1. Re:Of course I know who Linus Pauling is... by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 1

      I have actually thought of that before. Haven't made the perfect joke on it quite yet though. I didn't think of it while writing this post though. And I think that Torvalds and Pauling would have gotten along quite fine.

      They were both alike in being geniuses both in science\technology and in politics. Although Dr. Paulings politics and science were more grounbreaking\revoloutionary then Torvalds', although they wern't as closely linked.

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  65. hate/jelousy - food/energy - peace/war by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1



    I don't think you understand human psyche very well.

    > After all, hate is just an expression of
    > frustration/jealosy.

    Hate is many things. Hate has many faces. Hate can come from all places, even places that you can never imagine !

    In fact, there _are_ people who like to hate just for the fun of it.

    I mean, look at the klans in America. They are white, they have more opportunities than the "colored" minorities, and yet, the klans just lourvvvves to showcase their hate publicly.

    Have you ever listen to the hatefilled speech by the klans? I have. I just couldn't understand what motivates those people to hate so much, and yet they do.

    And the hatespeech isn't limited to the klans either. Politicians do it all the time, and what kind of "frustration" or "jealousy" those politicians have?

    I mean, look at Jesse Helms. Look at him. He is rich, well fed, highly educated, and in some manner, is a cultured person.

    But if you listen to his speech, man.... talk about hate, HATE !

    What makes Jesse Helms hate so much? What is there in his well-fed, well-lived, wealthy, comfortable life to make him feeling "frustrated"?

    Is there any OBVIOUS thing that Jesse Helms jelous about?

    No. At least, I can't find anything that worth Jesse Helm's to raise his druff.

    I mean, if I am Jesse Helms, I have so much money, I have so much power, my health is good, I have a good family, everything around me is good, I have no reason whatsover to hate or to feel jealous about.

    But Jesse Helms still operates under the "HATE" banner !

    I hope that by now we should understand that that neigher "Frustration" nor "Jealousy" can explain why people hate others.

    > If you have enough food/energy, you won't wage
    > war.

    Hmmm... really?

    Tell that to the people who were under attacked by Uncle Sam.

    It wages war on Vietnam, on Nicaragua, on Honduras, on so many places, and you like me to believe that America has not enough food, nor enough energy?

    Hmmm.....

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  66. Scientific Advancement by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1



    > scientific advancement is advancement tat is
    > scientific

    First of all, thank you for saying that.

    It is succinct, to the point, and it gives a vvry clear message that "Scientific Advancement" is just that, an "advancement" that is scientific.

    Many people have somehow stop thinking that way.

    They equate "scientif advancement" with "something that is good", or "something that is moral", or "something that will bring peace".

    Not necessarily so.

    Almost everything we have can be used to do things that are good to people, or things that are bad.

    Like fire. We can use fire to cook, and we can use the same fire to burn people alive.

    Like nukes. We can use the advancement in understanding of the nuclear science to make productive things like MRI, or transform onto the power generated by nuclear reaction into electricity, or we can use the nuclear knowledge to make weapons of mass destruction like Nuclear Bombs.

    It is ultimately the people, us, who has to decide what we want to use the tool we have for.

    We are on the Net. We can use the Net to advance humanities, or we can use the net to spread vicious lies, disseminate prejudices, or get little boys and girls to do kiddie porn for us.

    The choice is ours. We can do good if we want to, or we can become the fiercest destructive beast ever existed in time.

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  67. First Posters? by Bart · · Score: 1

    Since I first saw it I have been impressed by the picture of IBM written in Xenon atoms on Nickel.
    Now, as the era of nanotechnology gets nearer and nearer, I would like to have a poster sized copy of this for my wall. Anyone know where I can get this (or any other STM pictures or photomicrographs)

  68. Re:Heh, now Microsoft begs for support? by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1

    Nice poem. Really.

    (laugh)

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  69. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by webster · · Score: 1

    if we do get viable nanotech and use it wisely, then our only limits are the laws of physics and our imaginations.

    Yeah, but it's the using it wisely that's the trick. One of the most probable scenarios I foresee is the prolongation of life without a corresponding reduction of the birth rate. If you think we had an overpopulation problem in the 20th century, just wait until the 21st, when nobody dies from old age, thanks in large part to nanotech, and the babies just keep being born.

    We'll need the nanotech that'll make us be able to survive in vacuum just to find a place to stay.


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  70. Not sure but... by moebius_4d · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that nanotechnology is the current research area most likely to transform the way human live. But since that's so, and since so many of the actual technologies that have revolutionised human life have come out of nowhere to surprise everyone, maybe nanotech will not be the next Great Change after all. Or maybe I just need more sleep. ;)

  71. Is it better than Angele's Ashes? by georgeha · · Score: 1

    Great book; I loved it. Tee hee.
    L.D.


    Is Tis better than Angela's Ashes? That I couldn't stand, I found it very boring, tedious and repetive.

    I found the much vaunted humor to be about as funny as tying two cats together at the tail and flinging them over a clothesline.

    The pathos was terrible, a rehashed Dickens.

    These sentiments make me a pariah in my wife's Irish descended family, but their literary tastes are suspect, never having even read any Pynchon.

    About the only saving grace is that I can't wait for Lego to come out with official Angela's Ashes sets, so I can build lots of grey, dingy buildings.

    George

  72. Re:? by Polytope · · Score: 1

    From the ACS web site: "ACS was chartered by the U.S. Congress in 1876 and is the world's largest scientific society with nearly 159,000 members."

  73. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by billyjoeray · · Score: 1

    I suggest reading lots of science fiction novels that have to do with nanotech cause then you'll see that nanotech is scary and you should go lock yourself in the closet rather than get anywhere near nanotech.

    But seriously folks nanotech may be the future but if we don't watch out it will be a very short future so we need smart people who are educated on the subject of how it can go wrong (nanotech novels) be the ones who actually do research in the field. Not the people who are like:

    "I know how to combine molecules, lets see what happens when I change the largest plant on the face of the earth (algea) to create highly explosive gas. Then we'll accidently drop some in a local pond and in 6 months all the algea in a 2000 mile radius is producing gas. Woops we just had a big lightning storm and half the United States burnt to the ground!!"


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  74. Re:pancake lovin' ninjas by technos · · Score: 1

    The good trolls only come out at night! I wish I was moderating because every post to this thread would get a +1. Keep up the good work, ninja!

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  75. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by (void*) · · Score: 1
    Do Physics, and Atomic chemistry.

    Seriously, Nanotech is such a young, immature field of science that we still do not know what knowledge is applicable. Get the basics right, then branch out into it when the field turns really hot. That is the chance to make your contribution.

  76. Re:ACS's good choice of topics by davidand · · Score: 1

    Self-assembly isn't the same as self-replication, and the latter may not be necessary or desirable, at least for a long time. At least as I understand it, self-assembly simply means that the pieces assemble themselves into complex, organized structures. What you really need is mass-production. Milk is as cheap as vegetables, but is not self-replicating. Admittedly, cows are, but if you had a cow-manufacturing plant you could acheive the same result. In order to avoid unintended consequences, it will probably be preferable to design along these lines, rather than aim for self-replication.

  77. Bueracrat Push Paper, Hemos post! by hubrix · · Score: 1

    Can't say we haven't seen this before, but hey Nanotechnology is good, and more discussion of it is always good. Now if these guys just listen to Ray Kurzweil and made the shit he predicts, I'd be happy.

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  78. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Kiz315 · · Score: 1

    I know that, I was simply making a point that someone would understand.

    Oh, and you also forgot a few things. Let me list them. Being able to survive in hard vaccum without a suit or external air supply, DNA alteration, and the ablity to survive on nothing but heat and light.

    If I forgot anything, feel free to add to this.

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  79. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Kiz315 · · Score: 1

    It's people like you who help us understand the threats things like this have. -sigh- If only our governments were less agressive and would focus instead on active shielding systems...

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  80. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Kiz315 · · Score: 1

    LOL! Yea, just what we need, alage that produces explosive gas...as if people and cows didn't make enough methane as it is...

    But seriously, if we do get viable nanotech and use it wisely, then our only limits are the laws of physics and our imaginations.

    Just think, more computing power in your underwear than in the biggest Beowulf cluster to date.

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  81. Re:I have to disagree (Forever Peace) by Shmoo · · Score: 1

    Just an FYI, but Haldeman's got "Forever Free" out now. It's the conclusion to "Forever War".

    Anyone read James Halperin's "Truth Machine" or "First Immortal" ?

    I ate grits this morning, but did not put them down my pants. Shmoooooo.

  82. *give me a break!* by Myke242 · · Score: 1

    ohhhhhh, scifi said we'd have flying cars, contact with a the monolith and a big brother.

    some people rather hide there head in the sand than realize the fiction part of sci fi.

    beg borrow steal what you need to get into nanotech U (lol) i wish you the best of luck! wish i was going with you and cant wait to try out the uber server the size of a dime.

    but im sick and tired of people belittling ourselves over science. look if some maniac getts the grey plague going then it will happen. same way anyone can push the button, shoot/stab you in the street and get hit by lightning.

    chop up animals, blow up small islands in the south pacific, train ants to organize small screws in space! if i gets the rest of us who dont get to play with the real toys something like silly putty then im all for it!
    (mmmmmm real toys... imagine no budget and a industrial/millitary machine to caiter to your every whim...)

    yay! science!
    BOO! ignorant parinoia!

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  83. This is bad. by esp_ex · · Score: 1

    Okay, this is really bad stuff! Don't you know this is how the BORG started? We're all gonna die!

  84. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by Meddel · · Score: 1

    Computing power would be the least of it. You would live a healthy life for as long as you cared to continue. Poverty, strife, disease, famine, all would go by the wayside. You could go anywhere you want, any time you want. Cancer, diabetes, Lou Gehrig's disease would all be irrelevant. Computing power is the tip of the iceburg.

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  85. nanotechnology by r��t · · Score: 1

    Nanotechnology would definitely be something to look forward to - just think: microscopic machines in your blood stream that automatically help your body repair itself, microscopic surveilance and, of course, they would be great for computer maintenance.

  86. Re:I have to disagree (Forever Peace) by Cybrex · · Score: 1
    I must admit that I haven't read "Forever War", but after hearing it compared favorably with Starship Troopers I'll have to give it a look.

    I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Haldeman at a sci-fi con a while back- he's an interesting gentleman.

    I can assure you that the ACS is a reputable organization. My wife works "in the biz" and has been affiliated with them for some time.

    It seems like just a few short years ago the very idea of molecular nanotechnology was ridiculed by the mainstream. Now the discussion seems to center around "when", rather than "if". It's good to see organizations like the ACS (and IBM, for that matter) lending some respectability to this field.

    As far as literature on the subject, I highly recommend "Engines of Creation" by K Eric Drexler. This was my first introduction to nanotech, and it's well thought out. Drexler leans a bit toward the optimistic side (probably rightfully so), but he does cover the potential abuses of nanotech. The entire text of the book is now available online at

    http://www.foresight.org/EOC/index.html

    As far as fiction goes, there's a wonderful anthology called "Nanotech", edited by Gardner R. Dozois (ISBN 0-7394-0154-8). It kicks much ass! There are several different takes on nanotech provided, and they're all well written and insightful.

    For what it's worth.

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  87. News? by pb · · Score: 2

    Sure, you guys don't think this is news, but you're forgetting something.

    In nanotech, it's the little differences that count. ;)
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  88. I have a lot of respect to Mr. Haldeman by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2



    I do have lots of respect for Mr. Haldeman. His is the kind of person whose integrity and his dignity will never be compromized by anything.

    MR. Haldeman is a Vietnam vet, and he has experienced many unspeakable things back then. Instead of feeling pissed off, (lots of vietnam vet are living the life of being pissed off all the time), Mr. Haldeman channeled his anger, his frustration, his feeling of helplessness and loneliness into strength, and he wrote many heart-wrenching stories to remind the world of our potentially destructive manner.

    I respect Mr. Haldeman not because only his writing - which are very good, btw, his stories are of the highest quality, highly recommended - but I respect him because Mr. Haldeman can cut through his hatreds and his prejudices and in his stories, again and again, the hero fought hard against all the injustice, all the craziness, all the mind-boggling stupidities, to achieve the ultimate aim for a human being - to be honest to oneself, and to cling onto one's moral value and never let up one's dignity and integrity.

    The message from Mr. Haldeman is clear - that all of us are capable of doing great harm to others, and if we want to become true human beings, we must fight and defeat our prima violent urge, and we must all strive to be a person who, in the end of the day, will come out all the better.

    Thank you for bringing up Mr. Joe Haldeman.

    Thanks again for this chance for me to say the things I have wanted to say for a long, long time !

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  89. I have to disagree (Forever Peace) by doomy · · Score: 2

    If you read Joe Haldeman's latest book "Forever Peace" (Hugo and Neublar) you'd find out and in what ways nanotechology could be expoloited for the beifit of one country in a war against an inferior nation.

    I also recommend "Forever War" also by Joe Haldeman, another Hugo and Neublar winner.. Though both books are not related, they are excellent reads. I would usually cring at war books, but Haldmean's sci-fi war fiction would grip you and transport you to the horrors of a real war (narrated from a real veteran).

    As a matter of fact, "Forever War" impacted me more than "StarShip Troopers".

    Enjoy.
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    1. Re:I have to disagree (Forever Peace) by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2
      As a matter of fact, "Forever War" impacted me more than "StarShip Troopers".
      I think Haldeman wrote The Forever War largely as a response to Heinlein's pro-military Starship Troopers.

      I recommend both The Forever War and Forever Peace. Also see if you can find his All My Sins Remembered.

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  90. ACS's good choice of topics by WillWare · · Score: 2
    It's good to see interest in the areas they are talking about. Frequently some institution announces their interest in "nanotech" but really they are pursuing some very near-term, such as marginal improvements in lithography. The inclusion here of "molecular self-assembly, with particular emphasis on organized structures and machines" is important. Most of the nanotech "economy of plenty" scenarios depend on the idea of self-replicating assemblers. It's the reason vegetables are so affordable, despite the fact they're more complex than 99.9% of human artifacts.

    It's also good to see interest in "molecular-scale biomedical engineering", though this far along in the human genome project it's a bit of a no-brainer. Nevertheless, it's one of the areas where nanotech offers the greatest long-term promise, and it represents another point for long-term thinking on the part of the ACS.

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  91. ? by Zan+Thrax · · Score: 2

    Ok, it's nano related, so Hemos posted it. But, who are these guys? Can't say I've heard of the ACS... (not that that's neccessarily a signifigant statement about anything but my own ignorance)

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    1. Re:? by jesser · · Score: 2
      I'm not sure, but I know they set up all of the high school chemistry contests (local and national) in the United States that eventually decide who gets to go to the International Chemistry Olympiad.

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  92. Re:Nanotech: How do I get it? by billyjoeray · · Score: 2

    It just won't happen, humans won't just use any technology wisely, just look at what script kiddies have done with computers!
    Obviously we will have to find a way to use nanotech for good to combat the people who use it for evil. But we first reach a useable level of nanotech it will be easier to make weapons of mass distruction than it will be to make things to protect ourself's against the weapons. On the internet when a root exploit is found and used against people maybe a few sites go down and crackers steal some passwords and creditcard #'s, then 24 hours later we fix the bug and people update the software and the world keeps rolling along. Now when someone makes a nanotech weapon that kills hundreds of millions of people and 24 hours later we build some nanotech that combats it those hundred million people are dead and 100 of those weapons will wipe out the human race.

    So in closing nanotech is cool and all but we all should be very afraid and cautious of it.



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  93. Re:This takes more than chemists by technos · · Score: 2

    God I hope they're not close, and that I'm wrong that it will see use as a weapon. But they will inevitably be the first to have it at their disposal. Besides, I was joking at that point anyway..

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  94. Nanotech: How do I get it? by Asparfame · · Score: 2
    The way I see it, I'm the perfect age to be in on the nanotech revolution. I'm 16. By the time I'm in the workforce, the shit will just be hitting the fan. I am exceedingly interested in getting into this field.

    So what do I major in? I was thinking I would take Engineering Physics. Is that the right route? Does anybody have any idea/clues/suggestions?

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  95. I swear on the tiny periodic table in my wallet... by shiwala · · Score: 4

    As a chemistry major at Rice University and a student affiliate of the American Chemical Society, I can tell you that we aren't up to anything sneaky. I swear on the little periodic table that I carry in my wallet!

    As far as the different divisions go (American, European, etc.), the society strives to promote active fellowship between members by having regional and national meetings to share ideas and promote chemistry. Among the student affiliate chapters, one of the main goals is generating support and interest in chemical education from the elementary level to the college level.

    Those of you in the San Francisco area might want to visit the ACS National Convention being held there the week of March 26th. You're likely to find more information on this new nano division there.

    For more official information as to what the ACS is all about, visit this site.

  96. This takes more than chemists by Captn+Pepe · · Score: 5

    From the ACS page:

    • carbon nanoscience, including fullerenes and carbon nanotubes
    • molecular-scale electronic devices, including wires and components
    • molecular self-assembly, with particular emphasis on organized structures and machines,
    • quantum size effects, including electronic and photonic phenomena
    • nanotechnologies, including lithographies, microscopies and manipulators
    • crystal engineering, including detailed architectures for electronic and photonic applications
    • engineering of nanoscale dots, films, and 3-dimensional structures
    • molecular-scale biomedical engineering

    Quite a breadth of fields represented here, and a list that illustrates an important point about nanotechnology -- by its very nature, you're combining a lot of areas of expertise. Right now, most of the work is arguably in the area of chemistry, but in the next few years you're going to have chemists, physicsts, mechanical/electrical/some new field? engineers, and even computer scientists working in the area. In the end, we're going to need to combine more people than just the physicsts.

    Along these lines, I like what some universities are doing: check out Rice's Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology and Cornell's National Nanofabrication Facility for examples of institutes that have been set up specifically to bring together the various disciplines needed to tackle this problem.

    Oh, and a note to Technos -- as much money as even the military black budget has to throw around, we're nowhere near developing weapons-grade nanotech. If you want self-replicating weaponry, biological warfare remains your only "good" option.

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