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More on the Samsung Linux Handheld

Max von H. found the following on PalmStation: "It seems Samsung is about to ship out a Linux PDA this summer, and it will be called Yopy. Neat, isn't it? " A little slow link, but definitely more interesting then most of the other data on the Samsung devices we've seen in the past. It looks like it's mimicing a lot of the wince stuff... also appears to have a camera option. Nifty stuff tho.

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  1. Product info page by thing12 · · Score: 4

    http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/p da/index.htm

  2. Another big mistake by d_pirolo · · Score: 5

    Samsung is falling into the same pitfall as the manufacturers of WinCE devices before them. Trying to cram an entire desktop operating system into a handheld is simply ludicrous. Admittedly, Linux is pprobably better suited for these purposes than CE, but it doesn't look Samsung did a whole lot to tune the interface for a PDA. As a user of both Palm and CE devices, I much prefer a simplified GUI like the Palm. It seems like this would have been possible with Linux, but the screenshots still show the dreaded Start menu. Alas, a good idea shot down by poor implementation.

  3. Compact Flash by mattdm · · Score: 4
    Compact Flash type II currectly goes up to 320 MB. And unlike so-called SmartMedia, when larger capacities become available, you don't need to upgrade your hardware to use them.

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  4. The specifications by Bj�rn+Stenberg · · Score: 5
    Here are the specs (taken from the Samsung page and pictures):
    • 206MHz ARM cpu, running "ARMLinux"
    • 4" 240x320 16-bits TFT screen w/ backlight
    • 32MB RAM, 32MB FlashROM
    • CompactFlash slot in top
    • Built-in radio
    • MP3 and MPEG player
    • Voice recording
    • RS232 + USB serial port
    • IrDa port
    • Audio in/out jack
    • 3D sound stereo audio codec
    • 1400mAh Li-Ion battery
    • Handwriting recognition software
    • Size: 128.8 x 83.5 x 19.9 mm (H x W x D)
    • Speaker on front
  5. Re:Word Ignore for Moderation? by Amphigory · · Score: 4
    Great idea. However, May I suggest:

    Threshold -1, Flat mode, and newest first

    One of the problems with the current mod system is insightful comments are often missed because they are so far down the story that the moderators have used up their points on trolls before they get to them.

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  6. What good is xterm... by Iambic+Pentametor · · Score: 4

    ...without a keyboard?

    Questions I have:

    1. Does a keyboard peripheral exist or is one planned?

    2. Can you get beneath the desktop? It would be great if they allowed the user to customize the interface. They could even create new interfaces later and let you switch between the one you want.

    3. The battery is listed as 1400mA Recharge Li-Ion. Has anyone heard any estimates of how long it lasts? (esp. when used as a continuous MP3 player.)

    4. I want the power! Can the user trash features they don't want to make room for features they do? (If I don't get the camera, I don't want the baggage.)

    5. Okay, if I do want the camera, am I stuck with just one choice? Price?

    Nitpicking aside... looks way cool.

    Work as if you don't need the money,
    Love as if you've never been hurt, and
    Dance as if no one's watching.

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  7. What I think... by DNS+Error · · Score: 4

    The way I see it, it all comes down to what you can do with it. You could put linux on a toaster if you wanted to but what would be the point? If you can actually use it LIKE linux, on this pda then that's great, but I think realisticly that all the os is probally going to be on a rom somewhere leaving you with no customization maybe meaning that you are stuck running KDE, Gnome or what ever they want you to.

    Now as for all this talk of playing quake or other games, I don't think it would be very good just for the fact of the strange resolution that it probally has, and that there are only two buttons and a directional type pad, would make it bad to play.

    All I have seen on this is the pictures on the link from this story, and the info on samsung's page, but from what I can see, it looks just like Samsung is trying to hop on the Linux bandwagon.

    It does look like a nice palmtop though, so it might be a good product. I'm just worried about the actual customizability.

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  8. USB? by krokodil · · Score: 4

    Hi!

    It mentions USB port in specs. I am wondering
    does this USB port allows only to connect this
    PDA to computer, or does it also allows to
    connect various devices to PDA?

    Connecting USB keyboard or ZIP drive
    could be pretty cool option!

  9. Re:Price? by mali · · Score: 4

    The GMate guy at CeBIT expected the price to be in the US$400-600 range, depending on memory size (16/32MB or 32/32MB RAM/Flash). BTW: This 1400mAh battery is said to last about 10h ... Mali

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  10. Specifications (StrongARM SA-1110) by RobertGraham · · Score: 5
    In much the same way that the PalmPilot hardware is just the Motorola Dragonball single-chip solution, this device is from our friends at Intel: StrongARM SA-1110. You can get full datasheets at: http://developer.intel.com/desig n/strong/datashts/278241.htm

    The crinkly bits compared to a palm are:

    • 235 MIPS @ 206 MHz (Palm is 2.7 MIPS @ 16MHz)
    • 2.5 million transistors in 0.35 micron technology (image if they made it in 0.18 mircron!)
    • IO = USB, IrDA, serial, audio/telecom CODECs, PCMCIA, CompactFlash
    • Color/grey scales LCD at 1024x1024. However, the only touchscreens it advertises that it works with are 320x240 pixel screens.

    The pictures on the original page indicate that Linux will run out of 32-megs of ROM and 32-megs of RAM. It also looks like SAMSUNG is going to try to take advantage of all the chip's features (the disappointing thing about Palm is that they didn't take advantage of all the Dragonball's features).

    The thing to remember is that Samsung is like only putting together a reference design from Intel with a reference implementation of Linux (probably from Lineo) and standard off-the-shelf apps (like MP3 players) with minor modifications. The PDA-style apps are probably the Lineo PDA suite. Getting all this to work well in a limitted power budget will be tough enough. The first version will probably not contain any wizbang features beyond this.

    The burning questions I have:

    • Does it come with a TCP/IP stack?
    • Does it use X Windows?