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Date Pagers

Structured Audio writes: "Found this in Dvorak's Forbes column. These are hip in Japan, China, and Germany. See those links for details, but it's essentially a pager-like device that you program with details about who you'd like to date. When it detects you're near someone who also is wearing one of these, and your profiles match, it gets the two of you into a conversation. Wow!" These frighten me.

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  1. Re:Goodie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    > can we have machines have sex for us too?

    I assume this pager has a "no-beep" function to create a vibrating sensation...?

    Get your money's worth.

  2. Re:I bet they are popular... by josecanuc · · Score: 2

    Not only is it the default, but it's hardwired in ROM. Therefore, if you find a female who has changed the setting, rest assured that she is either (1) a technologically able person to hack the device or (2) a person with the funds available to hire the services of such a person.

    :-D

  3. Re:Hey, it's just another way to meet people by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    While I'd have to say that anything that stimulates conversation is good (and not necessarily just for potential dates...not every member of the opposite sex you meet is good for nothing but a potential date), it's based on the rather dubious assumption that the people you'd most like to meet are those with similar interests to your own. I personally find that many of my closest friends really don't have many of the same interests, which is what makes it more interesting - we each get exposed to new things we wouldn't normally do.

    Maybe if people were just more friendly and honest these wouldn't be necessary...

  4. The fourth option by hawk · · Score: 2


    Look at it in horror. "Where did this come from? May I borrow your shoe?"

    And when she hands you the shoe (with a rather confused & concerned look), use the heel to smash it into tiny bits of silicon and plastic (ignoring the toxic waste that leaks from the fractured battery).

    Suavely return the shoe, and continue the conversation mid-sentence.

    :)

  5. For cell phones, please! by hawk · · Score: 2

    Last night, as cell phone after cell phone went off, it occurred to me: restaruants and the loke should have jammers . . .

  6. Re:Arranging Things Not Necessarily Impersonal by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 2
    I am a "white guy," and the coworker that "got it" was pretty much in the "white bread" category.

    The important mistaken impressions people tend to have are the stereotypes of child brides and trading cows for people, and wives thrown onto the funeral pyre.

    Some of which probably still occurs appallingly often...

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  7. Re:Goodie! by Glytch · · Score: 2

    This is a joke, right? I mean, this is really out there. No-one would pay $500 for this, would they? Then again, with all the IPOs, there's a lot of lonely geeks out there...

  8. Re:50k ways to say 'lets bump uglies' by washort · · Score: 2


    &gt; <i>I fail to see how asking for a filesystem check is a good pickup line.</i>

    you're new here, aren't you? :)

  9. I personally prefer Skim by Kris_J · · Score: 2

    Skim.com have a system where you buy a peice of clothing, or similar, and it comes with a large unique six-digit serial number on it, and a password. You then have an e-mail account on their server. Anyone that spots you and notices your code can send you a message using the Skim system. I've been trying to get hold of anything that gives me an account on their servers, but it's very european and almost impossible to get down here in Perth, Australia...

    1. Re:I personally prefer Skim by Kris_J · · Score: 2
      How's that any different from just getting your email address silkscreened on a shirt or something, other than hardly anybody recognizing it?
      And how many people are going to have a date pager? Skim offers a quick 6-digit code with the rest of the address known to people that recognise it. How easy is it to write down "John.Doe49203@obscuremailserver.strangedomain.net "?
  10. Fffff. Old hat again. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2
    I can swear that I've seen those mentionned somewhere around 10 years ago...

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  11. Re:Goodie! by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2

    Part of the fun IS the chase.

    Remember that slogan: "Half the fun is getting t her e " ?


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  12. Re:People are lazy. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2

    Technology is developed an awful lot around letting people become more and more lazy;

    If you're not so lazy, why aren't you out there, banging the rocks together instead of banging your keyboard???


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  13. Re:I own a pair by ralphclark · · Score: 2

    Another thing that could benefit if these things were more widespread is prostitution.

    His interests: chicks that like money.
    Her interests: guys with money that like chicks.

    It might reduce the number of tarts hanging around on the street and kerb-crawlers from harrassing innocent girls who are only waiting for their ride to come and pick them up.

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  14. Re:People are lazy. by thegrommit · · Score: 2

    True, the *applications* of technology have generally been marketed at the couch potato. However, this isn't going to kill the social exercise that most of us enjoy.

    Look at the links (I know, a non-slashdot thing to do). Who do you think these things are being targeted at? Certainly not adults with some sort of social experience. They're just another attempt to create a teen craze.

    In environments where being in a clique is everything (i.e. school), these will be another weapon in the war of the snobs. All some particular cult (deliberate choice of word) has to do is program their gadgets so that only members will recognise each other - everyone else is left in the cold.

    The point is, it's all about excluding those who aren't the same - who cares about the rest.

  15. pre-electronic versions by jetson123 · · Score: 2
    We already have a lot of pre-electronic versions of these, and they work rather well: wedding rings, muscles, dress, hair style, jewelry, gadgets, books, etc. all tell you a lot about the other person. Those are already deliberate broadcasts of availability, interests, socio-economic status, etc. So, I wouldn't get all pushed out of shape about an electronic version: it doesn't do anything different from what people have already been doing for thousands of years.

    The idea, btw, is pretty old. The problem is mainly that you need a critical mass of this kind of device to make it work. If they get it down to a couple of dollars, make it credit-card sized, and can hand it out with a drink at a nightclub, perhaps they'll catch on more.

  16. Re:More sorrow than love? by redhog · · Score: 2

    To program a device not to react to persons with exactly the same, but at least and at most a bit different, should not be impossible.

    Anyway, that would be a good way to make friends - "Oh, sorry, I don't think I will fall in love with you, but would you mind to play a good game of quake with me an my friends this sunday?"...
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  17. Pubs by Anonymous+Shepherd · · Score: 2

    Is that how it works? I've never actually hung out in a pub.

    The device itself is another tool, and I don't try to defend that it works or will work. Myself, I don't know how to meet enough women. It's not the interacting with them; it's the where do I spend my time in the first place to actually meet them, that's giving me problems.

    Do women go to pubs? I don't know that I could say that men go do this, and women go do that, and that there are things that both sexes participate in where they mingle.

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  18. It's the Geek Code in electronics by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

    They'll probably keep refining these things until they go cellular.

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  19. Be still, my beeping heart?! by Plasmic · · Score: 2

    This product is phenomenally lame. One site suggests that this would be good for parties or large gatherings even though the device is activated when a match is within 100m. Obviously, in a crowded room with tons of people who all have one, it's going to be nearly impossible to figure out who your match is.

    But wait, there's more! If you can't find the person making you beep, then you've got their phone number and description at your fingertips.

    Well that's just peachy, seeing as how I'm a serial rapist. I think I'll carry around a backpack full of the damn things, each with different settings and proceed to stalk every female that passes within 100m of me who happens to match any one of my "date pagers."

    It doesn't get much better than this.

  20. A little too cut-and-dried by barzok · · Score: 2
    So, basically, if they carry a cell phone, and leave it on, they're "bad" no matter what, but if they carry one and turn it off, they're ok?

    No.

    This is why we have Caller ID! If the call is important enough (as indicated by the Caller ID), you explain why you need to take the call, and you take it. What if that call is your father calling to tell you your mother's just been in a car accident? If you shunt that call the voicemail, how's that make you look now? What if it's the office, and they're calling because all hell is breaking loose and they need you NOW to fix something? Ignore that one, and not only do you jeopardize your job, but you appear irresponsible to the person you were talking/flirting with.

  21. Love boat had this about 15 years ago by Basje · · Score: 2

    I don't think this can be called news.

    The TV-series 'Love Boat' had a similar device at least 15 years ago. There were two variations: one for men and one for women. It had only 3 settings too: friendship, relationship or sex. Which is all you basically need.


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  22. Re:the chances...? by quux26 · · Score: 2
    Is anyone really walking by tons of new people every day at work, or don't they already know pretty much everyone there? Maybe you're just randomly walking around downtown...

    Movie theatres (hope it vibrates). Dance clubs. The subway. Waiting in line to fill out some form at the DMV. A concert in the park. Parties where you don't know everyone. Parties where you don't know anyone. At your dentists office. Grocery shopping. Raves. Bertucci's.

    Need I continue? =P

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  23. Popular where? by Bob-K · · Score: 2

    "These are hip in Japan, China..."

    Well, apparently they work.

  24. 50k ways to say 'lets bump uglies' by Dreamweaver · · Score: 2

    I agree. I wouldn't use it to find a date because, well, one i already have a girlfriend and two, i don't think i'd want to date a person' who's idea of romance is a pager.. but it'd defenitly be great as a way to find people to talk to and/or hang out with for a while.

    There are dozens of ways to pick up women out there, from walking up to random females and saying "Nice shoes, wanna fsck?" to video dating services, but there are hardly any ways to find a new friend. Just walking up to people randomly would weird them out (i know it'd weird Me out anyway) and while talking to people you meet online is great, it's hard to go catch a movie or hit the mall or whatever your choice of friend-activities is, with people who live halfway across the continent.

    And the car battery thing is genius.. i'd love some kinda thingy that i could use to inform people in the area that i could use a jump, need some phone change, or have locked my keys in my car and need a coathanger. Especially if your car dies out on the highway.. in a parking lot it's just inconvenient to ask people for help, but i've had cops cruise past me broke down on the side of the road without even slowing down.

    So yeah, this is a bit weird and stupid as a date-finding application, but could work pretty well as a way to just meet new people.
    Dreamweaver

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  25. Re:Same story, new look by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2
    Are we really so busy with our lives that we can't spend a few minutes to get to know a person?

    The problem is figuring out who to get to know! When I walk by a woman, how would I know that she likes Loony Toons and HHTG, is interested in neopaganism and Buddhism, and could tolerate a guy with a LAN in his house? I could walk right by my perfect match and never know.

    While the devices described here are much too simple for this sort of matching, I can readily imagine more complex versions. I don't know that I'd ever buy one, but it doesn't seem like a bad idea.

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  26. More Links by ronfar · · Score: 2
    Here's one to the Forbes online version of the story:

    http://www.forbes.com/columnists/dvorak/

    And here's a link to a Wired story on the same subject.

    http://www.wired.com/news/n ews/culture/story/12899.html

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  27. Re:Port by radja · · Score: 2

    Nah.. I was thinking of clustering the things though...

    //rdj

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  28. Break a Couple More Taboos and It's Golden by Baldrson · · Score: 2
    These devices as they stand probably won't be anything but a temporary techno fad. But the reason this general computer intermediation will eventually work as a business is evidenced by the hysteria over "Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire?" There really are multi-millionaires out there "who still can't get a date" as the subtitle says. Don't take this literally, of course, there are plenty of 35 year old single mothers out there who will be happy to put up with a mere multimillionaire geek if it will get them a father for their sons, but there is much truth in the myth.

    Mating dynamics in "The New Economy" are completely out of whack. As a more extreme example: A couple of years back I ran across a CEO of a hundred million dollar initial capitalization startup who would do things like bake and deliver Thanksgiving dinner to his wife, an executive at a fortune 500 firm. He was was hospitalized after she went into a tantrum and broke his ribs. No charges filed but at least he had the good sense to divorce her. I'm sure if people were honest with themselves, they could think of plenty of less extreme examples of similar market inefficiencies in places like Silicon Valley that are just begging to be exploited.

    The real initial successes for these devices will come when they are used to "short out" mating/money potentials between geek/money saturated places like Silicon Valley and Seattle, and concubine/fertility saturated places like Washington D.C., NYC and LA.

    The rapidly increasing population of high income geeks is making some sort of exploitation of these potentials inevitable, and computer intermediation for geeks is a natural for all sorts of reasons:

    Geeks think they understand the technical issues.

    Geeks actually do understand the technical issues.

    Geeks are motivated by the motivation of all motivators: Evolution.

    Geeks are motivated by the motivation of all civilizations: Money.

    Geeks are decreasingly willing to inhibit their thinking as their status increases.

    Geeks trust computers more than they trust people -- often with good reason.

    There are some other problems involving authentication and security to manage, as well as legal liability, but most of these problems are already being addressed as part of the general movement toward high-value transactions in electronic commerce.

  29. I cannot wait.. by larva · · Score: 2

    ..until somone hacks one of these things.

    a bunch of hackers walking around with units that match all profiles sounds entertaining.

    larva

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  30. Introductions are in order... by Speare · · Score: 2

    When I first heard of these devices being used in Japan, it was shortly after the Tamagotchi craze. It was just another extension to that concept; something to do while taking the commuter trains.

    People here have been saying it's incredibly lame, because they can't see why someone would run into new people all the time, or why they couldn't just say "Hi" to new people without prompting.

    While I can't say how reasonable the argument is, or how popular the pagers really were, it sounded more plausible when it considered the differences in society. The Japanese society is more closed-lipped about a lot of things. They prefer to be introduced than to offer a greeting on their own. And commuter trains put you near LOTS of new people daily without much incentive to talk to any of them.

    These have too many shortcomings to work effectively in any USA venue; women are very dis-incented to talking to any strange man when not around friends, men with these items would appear geek not chic (sorry, Katz), nobody commutes with strangers here, and nobody believes in computerized matchmaking.

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  31. Re:I bet they are popular... by Deluge · · Score: 2
    Like some woman is going to program hers to say "I'm a victim, abuse me, I have no self-esteem. I don't like sex but if you force me I won't fight."

    Not exactly what I meant. Assuming that a woman enters all the info honestly, there could be a way of statistically determining what combination of her own personality traits and of what she looks for in a man constitutes an easily victimized woman. Much like the women who have a tendency to get into one bad, abusive relationship after another, even though they most likely don't enjoy getting beat up by some drunken redneck.

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  32. My profile by gargle · · Score: 2

    Let me guess what everyone would program this to:

    Sensitive, intelligent, good-looking M/F seeks sensitive, intelligent, good-looking F/M. Doesn't smoke or drink, no vices whatsoever. Enjoys the outdoors as well as quiet, intellectual moments.

  33. This is news from 1998 by Animats · · Score: 2

    That thing came out years ago. The site referenced hasn't been updated since 1998. Maybe somebody is trying to unload a supply of the things they bought cheap.

  34. An innocuous gizmo? I think not... by hypergeek · · Score: 2
    These devices are probably the single most cunning way devised to get users to truthfully reveal their personal details.

    These pagers could be a marketer's dream!

    Just have the users give out their mailing address when they register for the service, then mail back a card to confirm activation (and to confirm that they were honest when they gave their address!).

    Also, when they register, you, the hypothetical evil marketer, program their pager units based on the details they have mailed to you!

    They want to ensure the best matches, so they'll be compelled to answer your questionaire truthfully, and the only reason you wouldn't let them directly program their own units would be to make sure they send you several pages of detailed personal information.

    Then, as they merrily go about their now-slightly-less-lonely-than-before lives, you (still the hypothetical marketing scum) use their mailing address and their extremely detailed private information to send highly targeted ads to them in order to aggressively market even more of your products.

    Or, if you're even lazier and less scrupulous than that, then you can simply sell off their mailing addresses and their personal info to other companies, making a pretty penny in the process!

    So, what consumer privacy safeguards exist in Japan? Is there any way that the people who buy these pager-things can be sure that the company will respect their personal information?

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  35. Goodie! by nrjyzerbuny · · Score: 2

    Whee! Just what the world needs, intimacy without social interaction. This is great, can we have machines have sex for us too? For the enjoyment of it? Part of the fun IS the chase.

    1. Re:Goodie! by DevTopics · · Score: 2

      This gives the term social engineering a complete new meaning...

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  36. Re:News != New ? by fedos · · Score: 2

    When I was first getting interested in computers and programming, I read a book called "The Complete Book of Computer Secrets", or some nonesense like that. This book was written in the eighties and it was refering to singles clubs that used these devices; the goal being to eliminate the need for small talk, I guess.

  37. People are lazy. by Sir+Ratbastard · · Score: 2

    Technology is developed an awful lot around letting people become more and more lazy; because that's what people seem to want to be when they're not at work 9 to 5. They want tools to make their job easier, to make their life easier, to make everything easier. Microwavable dinners. Food that's prepared for you out of the box. Software that tries to anticipate what you're up to.

    I think it's pretty sad when we've hit the level that going out to a social outing, or heck, even a pub and approaching new people to make new friends gets on that list. I know a lot of people who are in wonderful relationships with nothing directly in common -- opposites attract -- how does this device work in those cases? It can't.

    I think the statement made about them being frightening is an understatement. It's a pretty bleak reflection on people in general, that somebody could make them and sell them in large quantities.

    Why get a life, when you can buy one! ;)

  38. Hmmm... now all i need... by |<amikaze · · Score: 2

    All I need now is an external transceiver for my palmpilot... mwhahahaaha... Have it send every possible signal. Then the whole building will be after me... And out of a large crowd of women running towards me, *one* of them have gotta want me. doesn't matter anyway, i'm great with my current situation, but it would be *so* much fun to get a whole restaurant of single women chasing me!

  39. Re:I wonder... by Portman,+Natalie · · Score: 2

    First, I feel that any post, in any thread, on any story, that is about me is quite on-topic.

    Secondly, do you know for a fact that I don't have one of these pagers? I, in fact, will be taking a trip to Japan in the near future and I have ordered one for my stay there. It's always nice to be able to meet fellow hot grits lovers without the hassle of asking every person you meet. This will simplify matters for me greatly.

    How can anyone not love hot grits?
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  40. I own a pair by Riktov · · Score: 3

    I had a friend get me a pair of Lovegetys from Japan when they came out two years ago, and I immediately thought they were an interesting idea.

    Here's the lowdown: First of all, they are _very_ simple. I don't know what kind of "programmability" is claimed in Dvorak's article, but the ones I have, the original Lovegetys, can only be set to one of three modes: OHANASHI (chat), KARAOKE (as in "let's go sing"), and TOMODACHI (friends). The TOMODACHI mode was originally called GET (as in "come get me" or "let's get in on"), but apparently that was too blatant so they changed it. The way it works is there are two models, the men's model (white) and lady's (pink, of course). If two Lovegetys of opposite sex come within five meters of each other regardless of mode, they beep and the small "FIND" lamp flashes. But if both are set to the same mode, the beeping is faster and the larger "GET" lamp flashes. That's all there is to it. Also, the lady's model's beep is a little higher-pitched. And you can turn off the beeper and just have the lamps flash.

    They are also very cheaply made. They cost 3000 yen (under $30US), consist of a very simple-looking circuit board with five LED indicators, and the body parts are injection-molded plastic. They have auto power-off, but it doesn't work at all -- both of mine will suck up the batteries (AAA x 2) if left in overnight.

    So how popular were they? Well, I understand they initially sold a lot of units in Japan, but the boom has definitely died down. The manufacturer's website, http://www.interland.co.jp (printed on the back of the units), no longer has any mention of the products; apparently the company has moved on and gone into the real estate business. When they first came out, their website supported a bulletin board, and most of the postings were, as might be expected, from guys complaining that they'd been trying them out but still weren't meeting any chicks. I remember one hilarious posting from a guy who said that after weeks of no luck, he finally got a bite while walking around town. He looked around excitedly, and found his to-be-sweetheart, with her flashing Lovegetty, was ... a grade-school kid. (I assume he decided not to pursue, but who knows?) There were also some geek info on wiring up a cell-phone type vibrator to them.

    It doesn't surprise me that the websites mentioned are in (besides Japan) China and Germany. There is no way these will ever become popular in the United States. The only place with even a remote chance is New York City, since it's the only place which has public pedestrian crowds like those in Tokyo and Hong Kong. In Japanese cities, everyone gets around by train, and the stations are the commercial hubs where thousands of people, from office workers to teenage girls, mill about and hang out, and that's the environment (also the overcrowded trains themselves) required. I suppose an American shopping mall might work, but then teenagers who hang out at malls probably don't need these to meet partners.

    One interesting application that I thought of, though, was for drug dealers. It's anonymous, discreet, and just like with mates, you can advertise what you have and what you're looking for. Of course the downside is the undercover cop who's got one.

    Eventually, cell-phones or similar devices will probably gain Lovegety-like functionality. And you can bet they'll be coming from Japan. Heck, they've had Tamagotchi-on-your-cell-phone ("Tamapitchi") for a few years already (and your Tamapitchi can call your friend's Tamapitchi!) Oh boy.

  41. "Part of the fun IS the chase." by edhall · · Score: 3

    Sound like you've not spent much time in clubs (whether Tokyo or elsewhere). Quiet conversation is impossible. Hell, some places any conversation is impossible. Appearance and "style" rule--they often are the only possible way to choose what new people to meet. A more intelligent reason for going off to a corner and having a (probably shouted) conversation with someone is a Good Thing.

    "Intimacy without social interaction" is an oxymoron. Social interaction needs an initiator, especially in large groups in noisy environments. This device can provide that initiator. At that point, as always, you're on your own.

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  42. Just watch the cell-phone users. by vees · · Score: 3

    We already have a wonderful radio-controlled device for eliminating potential mates: it's called a cell phone.

    If you're flirting with someone and their cell-phone goes off, you learn one of three things by their response.

    If they shunt the call into voicemail to continue their conversation with you, you know they are busy, but well balenced individuals who know how to seperate their leisure time.

    If they shunt the call, but have to check the caller-id first, they have a little more difficulty seperating leisure time, but at least they know where their social priorities are.

    If they take the call right there in front of you, you instantly know that they believe either they or their associate are more important than you are as a potential romantic interest. Make your getaway as fast as possible. Optionally suppliment their digital communication with a digit of your own if their snub was blatant enough.

    Of course, if they left their cell-phone at home or turn it off completely, you know you've got someone who's down-to-earth enough to realize that communication isn't just about talking to people who aren't in the room with you.

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  43. Popular in Germany? Well, I haven't seen any. by Hanno · · Score: 3

    Uhm, being a German geek who likes to check out any new gizmo and who lives in Hamburg where there are a lot of technology-gadget shops, I'd like to mention that I have never seen these devices anywhere.

    Ok, so this is a gadget I *wouldn't* buy.*

    But nevertheless, the only time I ever saw these things mentioned anywhere was in a newspaper article about a singles party event where they issued these things to the visitors as a gimmick. But that's it.

    (* Yes I know, you don't believe me, anyway.)

    P.S.: Note the German web page. It is dated 1998.

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  44. Now with Echelon in place by Master+Switch · · Score: 3

    The feds could track the pager transmissions, and effectively study the social metrics of dating and mating with a whole new level of efficiency. Just imagine, getting a tip from the CIA, that the girl in apt 4b might just have what you are looking for. Nothing like Big Brother trying to find you a date on Friday night, hell they need to get you out of your apartment so they can search it. Might as well kill to birds with one stone :) Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't stay up this late, does weird things to the mind

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  45. Related story, and dangers therein by ForteBravo · · Score: 3

    There was a story at CNN about the gaydar device. However, I think people had better watch out where they choose to wear it, what they program into it, and so on.

    Frankly, I wouldn't want to see one of these fall into the hands of drunken/violent homophobes with baseball bats.

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  46. You're mixing a whole bunch of issues here... by Anonymous+Shepherd · · Score: 3

    The date pager is not meant to dictate your personal appearance kind of taste. It can't do anything about that. Your eyes and such are the only tools that can help; in that way, the date pager, then, can only help you find someone that's more than a skin-deep attraction.

    I don't think attraction based on appearance is slimy. I don't think it's correct, either. Attraction, I think, is undefineable; it's appearance, it's behavior, it's pheromones, it's fate. Whatever the reason, it happens. At least, I've not been limited to one type of woman ^^

    But I agree on your other posts, about differences. Variety is nice

    On the other hand, I don't think I can know myself enough to actually be able to program a date pager to choose more accurately than my own intuition...

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  47. Port by quux26 · · Score: 3

    I'm a'gonna bitchslap the first person that wonders out loud if they can port *nix to this device. A swift kick goes to the one who calls for a boycott if it's not open sourced.

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  48. Re:I bet they are popular... by spRed · · Score: 3

    No, the first and finest hack of these will involve someone tumbling the preferences output. At any given nano-second you are the most desireable man in the world according to your pager.

    All things to all people? Technology doesn't lie!

    -john smallberries

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  49. A sense of humour needed by spiralx · · Score: 3

    I'm sorry, but you seem to have lost yours. Yes this particular thread doesn't typify Slashdot's "mission" but over the years hot grits have become part of what /. is about. Like any good thing there are long-running jokes and themes which provide continuity and a sense of community.

    And obviously it was a joke. We are allowed to make jokes, and we even get moderated up for them - that's why one of the moderation options is the Funny tag. Without humour this site would be sterile and boring, and a much worse place to visit.

  50. the chances...? by Magic+Snail · · Score: 3


    Really, what are the chances of this actually working? Is anyone really walking by tons of new people every day at work, or don't they already know pretty much everyone there? Maybe you're just randomly walking around downtown... Then you have to assume that when you actually meet someone, you'll both actually have time to stop to talk instead of getting to wherever you happen to be gonig.

    Or, you could just go hang out at the type of place where people that hold your same interests do... or even better, DO some of your interests that necessitate other people (such as a club or something), so that you'll already be around people with the same interests as you...

    Does this seem like a ridiculous idea to anyone but me?

    Ryan Kirk
    Topflight Productions

  51. Neet toys... I wonder if... by evil_one · · Score: 3

    I wonder if they could be D.O.S.'d... I mean, you walk in to a room with a hand-held c.b. radio that is set to the "pager" frequency, and hold down the button. Many of them are up to 4 watts, so you'd cover the whole range with white noise.

    On another note, imagine the privacy implications, you walk in with a palm - equipped with a radio card, and reprogram it to pick up the signals from this thing... you could spoof details, and get and _log_ information on anyone you liked...
    spooky...

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  52. Re:I wonder... by Portman,+Natalie · · Score: 3

    Thank you valient sir for the defense of such a great admirer of mine. Because of your gracious gesture i will gladly poor hot grits down your pants anytime you wish. If you aren't into hot grits, don't fret, for my sole purpose in life is pleasing my fans, and I would be willing to please you in anyway you wished.

    With much love, Natalie

  53. Arranging Things Not Necessarily Impersonal by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 4
    A good friend is on his way over to India to, very probably, get engaged.

    The process, at least in this case, appears rather less bizarre than everyone seems to assume is the case for "arranged" marriages.

    To the point, a year ago, there was an exchange of "resumes" that bore a striking resemblance to that which you might use to find an employer. (There's also a story about a "brother's boss's niece, but that's another story...)

    In thinking about it, this really isn't particularly bizarre at all.

    If all you're after is a sex partner for the evening, then probably an exchange of "medical resumes" would be in order, verifying that nobody's going to get an extra STD.

    On the other hand, if a more "permanent" relationship is intended, an exchange of "personal resumes" and references can cut through a lot of the posturing and other dishonesty that happens as we pretend to be more attractive than we really are.

    I mentioned the process to one of my married coworkers, and he at first thought arranged marriage to be a very peculiar thing, but then thought it might have been useful to have "character references."

    Long and short is that these "tools" aren't necessarily any worse predictors of success than the "dating scene" that, with the divorce rates these days, are obviously not terribly good predictors of "relational success."

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  54. Hey, it's just another way to meet people by hackman · · Score: 4

    Ok I admit this thing sounds potentially lame, I'd heard about them a year ago or so. However underneath the flashy, wireless technology this is just _another_ way to meet people. If your goal it meet people - it gives you something in common with someone or at least a conversation starter, how many date-oriented conversations started with "Hey, nice cell phone". It's not a technology that's going to make people hide in dark rooms typing on computers waiting for someone they match with to walk by. It's a technology you use to start conversations and interact with real people instead of just ignoring everyone.

    It's like going to a dance club or bar, but being in contact with the 'dating scene' all day instead of only a few hours in an ear-thumping club or local bar pounding drinks. It's a chance to meet someone in a more 'normal' environment.

    Ok think about it people. If you want to gay bash or stalk women or whatever, you don't need one of these gadgets to tell who you want to hurt. There are (unfortunately) lots of hate crimes now, without such gadgets. There will most likely be hate crimes with such gadgets. I don't think it's the technology that is the issue in that debate.

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  55. Re:I wonder... by gleam · · Score: 4

    On slashdot, it's quite obvious that the standard dictionary doesn't apply. Try the New Hackers' Dictionary (The jargon file, eh?):

    troll v.,n.

    2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup,
    discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real
    interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no
    redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."

    Ya just gotta use the right tool for the job.

    HAND.

    -Ed

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  56. More sorrow than love? by Haven · · Score: 4

    Think about it, you are walking down the street.. your "date pager" goes off... you look around for the other person, only to find that he/she is not exactly what you are looking for in a person "physically" speaking. I tend to go for more of a dark haired 5 feet 8 inches type of woman.

    What will happen when you have to say, "We both like Quake, Slashdot, Linux, and GCC. But I'm still not going to date you".

    I know what you people are going to say, "It's not the looks that matters, but the personality". You are right, but we as humans are shallow slime. I would be ther first person to admit that I speak to members of the opposite sex b/c they are good looking. I met my current girlfriend that way. It just kind of worked out that we had a lot in common.

    Its also nice to have differences too. I would get really bored waking up every morning to coffee and a conversation of the finer points of TCP/IP.

    My girlfriend likes to go outside. I like to play on my computer. I have introduced her to the fine art of deathmatching, and she introduced me to a bright shining star that hangs above my house for 10 hours a day (the sun).

    All I'm saying is that you will find better relationships with people that don't have the exact same opinions that you do.

    The only good thing that I can see out if this is finding more Quake III Arena buddies.

  57. Hmm, fill in the checkboxes: by SuperG · · Score: 4

    I can see it now....

    Male Lovegety profile:

    Good sense of humour [x]
    Caring [x]
    Obsessive [ ]
    Large Income [x]
    Ex-wife [ ]
    Children [ ]
    Romantic [x]
    Large penis [x]

    Cheers,
    SuperG

  58. I agree, but look at the funny side... by Paul+Crowley · · Score: 5

    I wouldn't get one of these devices myself, but hey! Supposing two violent homophobes with baseball bats get the same idea...
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  59. Re:I wonder... by gleam · · Score: 5

    I wonder...
    by Anonymous Coward on Tue March 14, 12:13 AM CST (#5)
    ...if Natalie Portman likes pouring hot grits down her pants, too!


    It appears some of the moderators didn't understand this post. It was both on-topic and not a troll. Allow me a moment to explain.

    The idea behind the post, obviously, was that this particular troll would be ecstatic if he could find a mate who shared his excitement when he pours hot grits down his pants. This goal, combined with his obvious Natalie Portman fetish, is a rather common topic on slashdot.

    Now to the on-topic part. This "troll", if you prefer to call them that (I don't, it doesn't match the proper definition of "troll"), looked at this particular article, and, suddenly, saw a possibility for all his dreams to come true at once!

    Wistfully, he/she posted "I wonder...if Natalie Portman likes pouring hot grits down her pants, too!" Now consider what would happen if this poster, equipped with one of the devices the story references, were to run into Miss Portman, and discovered that she did, indeed, like hot grits down her pants? I think, and I can imagine you all agree, that he would be both on-topic, and scored +5/interesting.

    But, it appears, the moderation system has failed yet again, and an obviously on-topic post has been moderated down as a "Troll". I metamoderate frequently, and believe me, "Troll" is not a valid definition in most cases. Indeed, I'm under the opinion that "Troll" should be, often, a bonus. True trolls catch those of us who post before thinking in a tight spot.

    My guess is that some of these moderators have been caught by true trolls, and now associate "Troll" with any post they don't like. If the above post were to be moderated down, it should obviously be moderated down for "Overrated" since Offtopic and "Troll" don't apply here.

    Moderators, use a dictionary.

    -Ed

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  60. Leave it to hackers... by Coda · · Score: 5

    ...to totally overlook the possibilities:

    You walk into a pub and spot a total cutie. You bring out your hacked DatePager, point it at hers/his, and WHOAH... all of a sudden her/his DatePager goes off, identifying your sexy self as being a perfect match.

    Dishonest, yes, but all's fair in love and war.

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  61. I bet they are popular... by Deluge · · Score: 5
    Call me a cynic but all I can see is really weird guys programming their pagers with characteristics that'd most appeal to really weak-minded pushover type women. They can be walking down the street identifying potential victims of rape and abduction. And all it would take is a couple of psych classes.

    Scary indeed.

    And even aside from these nefarious uses, would you ever trust a person to program those things *honestly*? What woman's going to program hers with "nagging b*tch who only wants men for their money"

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  62. The Other Applications Are Better by susano_otter · · Score: 5

    The real thing here is to be able to list not just optimal "dating configurations" but configs for other things as well:

    2-Hour layover? No worries! You'll be automatically notified if any Linux-minded persons enter your area!

    Comdex sucks rocks this year? Link up with everyone else who agrees with you, and go get tanked somewhere fun!

    Car battery died? Let everyone in the parking lot know that you could use a jump, without having to raise your voice!

    Okay, I probably made the whole thing look even stupider, but there's a lot of networking potential here. Society (and population density in some areas) gets in the way of getting to know our neighbors--with the right application this system could introduce us to the true "neighbors" we might never otherwise become aware of.

    But that's just my own spur-of-the-moment, ill-considered .02gp

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