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Man Arrested For Enigma Theft

OwenF writes: "Well, the coppers have picked up some 50-year-old for stealing the enigma decoder. He's already out on bail, and they're still looking for a woman seen driving a red car at the museum. Very 'international superthief' type caper, if you ask me. Where's 007 when you need him?" I think it's clear to everyone that the woman in the red car is most likely Carmen Sandiego.

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  1. Everybody sing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Well she sneaks around the world from Kiev to Carolina
    She's a sticky-fingered filcher from Berlin down to Belize
    She'll take you for a ride on a slow boat to China
    Tell me, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?

    Steal their Seoul in South Korea, make Antarctica cry "Uncle,"
    From the Red Sea to Greenland they'll be singing the blues
    Well, they never Arkansas her steal the Mekong from the jungle
    Tell me, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?

    She go from Nashville to Norway, Bonaire to Zimbabwe
    Chicago to Czechoslovakia and back!

    Well she'll ransack Pakistan and run a scam in Scandinavia
    Then she'll stick 'em up Down Under and go pick-pocket Perth
    She put the Miss in misdemeanor when she stole the beans from Lima
    Tell me, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?

    Oh, tell me, where in the world is...tell me, where can she be?
    Botswana to Thailand, Milan via Amsterdam, Mali to Bali, Ohio, Oahu!

    Well she glides around the globe, and she'll flim-flam every nation
    She's a double-dealing diva with a taste for thievery
    Her itinerary's loaded up with moving violations
    Tell me, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?

    1. Re:Everybody sing by Windigo+The+Feral+(N · · Score: 4

      Some anonymous coward dun wrote:

      Who is Carmen San Dieago? I have been following this, and I just have no idea what you are talking about.

      I would stand in shock, but I remember that not everyone on Slashdot is from the States or even from countries where the main computer in schools was either an Apple II or an 8086 (at least to my knowledge, a version of "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego" was never put out for the Speccy--pretty much the main computer, along with old BBC boxen, in the rest of the world outside of North America :).

      Anyhoos..."Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego" was a game put out years back for the Apple II and for older PCs (I think there may have been a Macintosh version too, but my memory may well be addled there) that was ostenably to teach kids about geography and which featured this lady in a red coat named Carmen Sandiego and a large gang of henchmen who stole various and sundry historical artifacts/features/etc. Your goal, of course, was to find out just where the hell Carmen Sandiego and her henchmen were (and it subtly taught you geography and map-reading skills along the way). Definitely one of the better "educational" games that ever came out...

      There were some sequels, if memory serves, such as "Where In Time Is Carmen Sandiego" (where she was even going back in TIME to steal historically important stuff, the evil wench), but the original is still IMHO the best of the series...

      And as for the little song folks have been posting, well...that's from the TV spinoff of the game (which was shown on PBS, our public broadcast/educational TV network here in the States--I'm not sure what the equivalent would be in other countries, other than the "cultural" channels) which was in a game-show format where kids had to (surprise, surprise) track down Carmen Sandiego and at the end take a bunch of markers and identify as many countries on a continent as they could in sixty seconds...great fun if you were a kid, and even educational for us grownups :) The song itself was done by a group called Rockapella that did (surprise, surprise) acapella songs, and they did all the music for the series (which ran for some two or three years at least).

      Which is probably more than you ever wanted to know about Carmen Sandiego ;)

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      -Windigo The Feral (NYAR!)
  2. I know where it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Has anyone looked on e-bay yet?

  3. Re:software enigma by Pathwalker · · Score: 2

    In part of the game Jigsaw You have to break an enigma code, and can play with an enigma machine.

    You need a Z-code interpreter to play it - I suggest frotz

  4. Re:Movie Promotion? by mce · · Score: 2
  5. Re:*LOL* Yes but... by waldoj · · Score: 2

    As a .WAV. Just a snippet.

  6. Re:Don't Steal It; Download It by waldoj · · Score: 2

    Just so you know, your sig is pretty useless. I already know that you, Waldo, posted your post. I know your e-mail address is waldo@waldo.net and that your homepage is at http://www.waldo.net. I know that you're a ``21-year-old geek. Owner of Munk & Phyber, lover of Macs and Linux, resident of Charlottesville.'' Basically, my point is that your sig is telling me nothing I don't know. Tagging your posts with -Waldo is a waste of everybody's bandwidth. For every post of yours I read, I have to download an additional 14 bytes (the HTML is <BR>-Waldo<BR> = 14 bytes) that are pretty superfluous and less informative than the info /. already gives me. If everybody trimmed their sigs of the useless crap, /. could be a bit faster. Granted, not much, but every little bit helps.

    You repeated yourself several times in this post. The text of your message was 839 bytes. I've written "-Waldo" at the end of perhaps 10 messages. (It's not a .sig.) That means that I've wasted 140 bytes. You just wasted about 400. (Though some might say that you wasted 839 bytes.)

    I write my signature at the bottom of my snail-mail, but it's on the envelope. I write my name at the end of my e-mail, but it's in the header. The world is full of redundancy. The world is full of redudancy. (Doh! That's 31 bytes!)

    You must have the page for The Bandwidth Conservation Society as your home page, eh? :)

    -Waldo

  7. Re:The real question would be... by Maserati · · Score: 2
    I always wanted a copy of "Where in hell is Carmen Sandiego".

    Based on Dante of course...

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  8. Rio! by jutus · · Score: 2

    After examining the clues and interviewing several people at the museum, I suspect that she is in Rio De Janiero.

    She *always* ends up there!

    :)

    I'll just need the general consensus of the /. forum in order to take action and take a flight there.

    1. Re:Rio! by Kaufmann · · Score: 2

      *looks out the window*

      Let's see... Copacabana Beach, check. The Christ statue, check. The Bread Loaf, check. Nope, not here.

      It worked, Carmen. You're safe now. Those fools' will never suspect a thing... now let's just erase this paragraph and click Subm--

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  9. Re:News Flash! Allied time bandit hacks german cod by Ricochet · · Score: 2

    One version of the Enigma code was broken before the war. I thought the Polish had actually deciphered it at gave it to the English shortly after Poland was invaded. There were several different versions to the Enigma machine, the navy had one, other forces had others. The SS eventually developed an Enigma with ~12 dials (I think the original at the start of the war had 5 or 6).

    Please don't trust what I've written as my memory is a bit shaky (I try to remember the important things and vaguely remember the rest).

  10. Now that they've got somebody.. by Mr+T · · Score: 2

    I can say that being the cryotpgeek that I am, if I was going to be a thief and take something I'd want to take an Enigma machine. It would be a bad ass piece to have in my study. My hat is off to the gent for ripping it off. At least he didn't take something useless like a painting or some jewel laced golden artifact, he stole something that was calssified for years.

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  11. Re:Movie Promotion? by Xenu · · Score: 2

    I imagine that many Poles feel the same way about the hundreds of books and articles that say that the British cracked the Enigma.

  12. Re:software enigma by Xenu · · Score: 2

    The password file was encrypted with a mutant version of DES. The crypt(1) program used a one-rotor version of Enigma.

  13. We don't need no steenkin' Feds! by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    they could be breaking crypto export regulations

    Not if they took a large hammer and squashed it flat, pressed it into sheets, and put a cover on it. Then it would be a book, and protected free speech ...

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  14. Re:*LOL* Yes but... by dimator · · Score: 2

    LOL.

    Well, I know she visited the Mechanic Shop and I know she was at the Football Stadium in Florida but I have to keep looking.

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  15. software enigma by joenobody · · Score: 2

    I know the Enigma algorithm is known, but has anybody actually implemented it in C or anything? That'd be fun to play with.

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  16. Re:OT: Your sig by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2

    Hey moderator? How about a clue. If I mark it OT in the subject line, you don't have to moderate it OT! GEez.
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  17. Somewhere close by... by Stephen+VanDahm · · Score: 2

    I was investigating at the Library today -- someone dropped a teal and purple flower pot from a window and almost hit me on the head. Everyone knows that, when that happens, the villian is hiding out in town somewhere.

    I still have to investigate the tourist center and sports arena, but I've already used the crime computer to generate an arrest warrant.

    After this, I'm only two cases away from my next promotion!

    Take care,

    Steve


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    Stephen C. VanDahm

  18. Movie Promotion? by ReadbackMonkey · · Score: 2

    Is it possibly some kind of really, really lame movie promotion for the new Bill Paxton movie?

    U-571

    Isn't it about a bunch of US Marines who end up dying after stealing an enigma machine off a German U-boat and thus help the allies win world war II?

    Remember when "Armaggedon" came out and suddenly NASA decided an asteroid was going to crash into the earth in 2025.. then released that they're was a million to chance that an asteroid was going to kill us all... lame, lame, lame.

    I wanted to see U-571 anyway, they didn't have to go and stage this lameness...

    1. Re:Movie Promotion? by nstrug · · Score: 3
      U-571 is based on a true story - the capture of the first Enigma from U-110. However in the interests of selling the film to a nationalistic US public, the fact that the Engima was captured by British sailors on HMS Bulldog has been conveniently forgotten, and all the Brits are replaced with Americans in the film.

      Oddly enough, some Brits find this a bit cheeky.

      No doubt, Americans would be similarly amused if a film were to be released portraying Guadalcanal being liberated by British forces with nary an American in sight...

      Nick

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      -- "It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park" - Jim Moran
    2. Re:Movie Promotion? by MrCreosote · · Score: 4

      IIRC, what the *British* navy were ordered to do was to get a hold of the code book (not the actual machine) used by the German Navy which gave the settings to be used for each day. The German Navy were a little more strict in this respect than the Wehrmacht, which allowed the operators to come up with their own settings.
      The Code Books were made using special paper (rice paper?) and special ink (rose water?) and the enigma operators were under orders to throw the book into the water if they were ever captured. The water would make the book unreadable. However in this case, the captain just told the operator to abandon the sub, and he did not have time to destroy the code books.

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  19. Re:Enigma vs. CSS by tc · · Score: 2
    I've noticed a few comments now about how cracking the 3-rotor Enigma can't have been hard because we stole one to play with. All having an Enigma tells you is the algorithm, it doesn't tell you keys. Like most good encryption methods, Enigma's security doesn't rest in the algorithm, but in the keys. For example, everybody knows the Blowfish or RSA algorithms (or can look then up on the net), but that doesn't mean they are insecure because deciphering a message is still a very hard problem.

    The Station-X guys were geniuses because they found ways to discover the keys used for messages by examining ciphertext, and hence recover the plaintext.

    Of course, that didn't stop my government hounding Alan Turing after the war for being a homosexual, quite probably leading to his eventual suicide.

  20. Re:News Flash! Allied time bandit hacks german cod by gaudior · · Score: 2

    THe Enigma code was cracked by the Brits long before 1945.

  21. There were three until this... by Dave+The+Magni · · Score: 2

    There are (relatively) many Enigma machines, but there are only two -other- machines exactly like the missing one.

  22. Re:News Flash! Allied time bandit hacks german cod by luckykaa · · Score: 2

    I think that was the Lorentz - a teletype based machine. An absolutely remarkable achievememnt when you consider that they hadn't even SEEN one of these machines.

    Enigma was cracked because a letter could not be encoded to itself. Therefore if you knew the clear text, you could match it with the appropriate position on the cyphertext (No matching letters), and dramatically reduce the number of matching configurations. There were a few other tricks they learned too, such as a repeated letter sometimes matched onto the same code letter as the previous time.

  23. Smell of sarcasm by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 2
    international superthief' type caper
    Sounds more like the bank robber who shows real identification when asked. Or the bank robber who was caught while waiting at the bus stop.

    Is 007 the IQ?

  24. News Flash! Allied time bandit hacks german code! by Brand+X · · Score: 2

    May 14, 1945, Washington D.C. In a breaking story, noted adventurer and time traveler Mark Smith returned from a secret mission yesterday, carrying a mysterious contraption. Rumors suggest that this enigmatic object may be the secret to cracking secret Axis information packages, but the president has thus far refused to respond to reporters' questions.

    More information to follow as the story breaks.

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  25. damn it by ceswiedler · · Score: 2

    Now i'm going to have to stop using the Winigma(tm) crypto program I just bought...

  26. Re:News Flash! Allied time bandit hacks german cod by awx · · Score: 2

    Wrong! Next month's code was sometimes passed around encoded with the current code to the operators. It was cracked when a long message had to be retyped by a disgruntled operator, who made one typing error in the message. From this, the girls at Bletchley Park (The UK's code-cracking center during the war and where Alan Turing worked, and eventually designed and built Colossus, the first programmable computer...) were able to work out the shifting of the wheels within Enigma.

    Or something.
    awx

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  27. Enigma vs. MPIA^H^HAA :-/ by Ricochet · · Score: 3

    Strange how the the Enigma save the planet (exagerated) and shortened the war (true). The people who cracked it were brilliant heroes (true). But the guy who wrote DeCSS is a criminal and a hacker (oh my god he's one of THEM!).

    In todays society the people who cracked the enigma would be locked up, sued, and branded criminals. Ironic, it's all a matter of timing.

  28. Coders and computers by stephen_e_nelson · · Score: 3
    Interesting to note that it referred to the machine as a "coder." As I remember from the Neal Stephenson book, in 1945 the word "computer" referred to a person who did math.

    So, in 1945, a coder was a machine, and a computer was a person...

  29. Well its about time. by BiggestPOS · · Score: 3
    This is the same guy who stole my garden gnome last week. And I suspect that he stole my bird bath 2 years ago. This man is a menace and I'm glad he was finally caught so he can pay for his debt to society. And my birds.

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    What, me worry?
  30. *LOL* Yes but... by SgtPepper · · Score: 4

    I think it's clear to everyone that the woman in the red car is most likely Carmen Sandiego.

    Where in the world is she?

    Breaks out into acapella song

  31. The MPAA is behind this... by pmodz · · Score: 4

    After the cracking of CSS, they must be looking for a replacement technology. The article said this was one of two Enigma machines in the world...I wouldn't be surprised if the other one goes missing as well.

  32. Don't Steal It; Download It by waldoj · · Score: 5

    Try out genigma. Runs on X, released under the GPL. Way easier than getting arrested.

    -Waldo

  33. So They Found the Suspect . . . by llywrch · · Score: 5

    Does this mean they'll stop questioning Kevin Mitnick about this latest computer crime?

    Geoff

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    I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p