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Red Hat 7.0 Beta Is Out

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the but-I-can't-add-it-to-my-sources-list! dept.

Thorkild writes: "The subject says it all. They just opened up the directories on the mirror sites." If you can't find it without me telling you where it is, then you shouldn't be running a Beta Red Hat 7.0 ;)

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  1. Re:What's new by bero-rh · · Score: 5

    What's missing:
    sendmail 8.11

    Missing from the beta, present in our current tree (and definitely the final).

    kernel 2.4test5ac

    Actually it's there, on the 2nd CD and not installed by default because it's known to have some critical bugs.

    tux 1.0

    Needs kernel 2.4

    apache 2.0pre4

    Chances are 2.0 won't be released in time for 7.0. It'll probably be in 7.1 (and I'll make RPMs for 7.0 available as soon as I have the time).

    bind 9.0

    Same as for apache - I'm actually using the 9.0.0 release candidate to host bero.org, but it has a couple of problems, like some missing utilities, and requires all master zones to be changed because the TTL stuff is now mandatory (and most people haven't used it with bind 8), so there's no really clean update path. Not something we could do in the couple of days between the 9.0.0rc1 release and the beta.

    staroffice

    It's still binary-only, they've just announced they'll GPL it by October 13th. We'll include it once that happened, until then, it will be on the Linux Applications CD in the boxed sets.

    LVM

    It's present in the 2.4 kernel we're shipping.

    reiserfs

    Too unstable at the moment. They keep changing the journal format, and the recovery tools aren't quite where they should be.
    Yes, reiserfs is nice while it works (I'm actually using it on one of my machines), but if something doesn't work and a journal replay doesn't fix it, you're usually in trouble.

    I'll make a kernel RPM with the patch available over at people.redhat.com/bero/experimental when I have the time (probably shortly after the 7.0 release) for those who want to play - but for now, we don't feel we can support it.

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  2. Re:RedHat by oingoboingo · · Score: 5

    less and less to those who seek to immerse themselves in the goodness of a unix environment (bad).

    how does RedHat (or any distributon, for that matter) lessen the potential for total immersion in the unix environment? it's not like the graphical admin tools and scripts that are provided mean that you can no longer go into /etc with vi and hack till your heart's content.

    skip automatic hardware detection, don't set up TCP/IP at install time, don't install any windows managers, and certainly don't install GNOME or KDE. there you go...its thin'n'crispy (tm) just like unix 'should be'.

    on the other hand, you can install all the bells and whistles if you'd like, and pretend the technical details don't exist

    i thought this whole 'choice' thing was what linux was about?

  3. Official announcement / download locations by bero-rh · · Score: 5

    Announcing...

    Red Hat Linux "Pinstripe"
    a Beta release

    Red Hat. Inc. presents a beta release of Red Hat Linux for your
    hacking pleasure. First, the regular drill:

    This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux. It is not intended for
    mission critical applications. It's not even intended for
    non-mission critical applications. Important data should not be
    entrusted to Pinstripe, as it may eat it and make loud belching
    noises.

    Significant changes have been made since the last version of Red Hat
    Linux. We need your help to find and report bugs. Search for
    existing bug reports for problems you find by using bugzilla at:

    http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

    Attach patches if you're motivated!

    This beta includes so much cutting edge software, the binary packages
    come on two iso images. The installation program now handles reading
    packages from multiple CDs.

    * Where can I get this release?

    Pinstripe can be downloaded from our public FTP site at:

    ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe

    With the support of volunteers ftp site administrators, Pinstripe is
    available from several mirrors. The following have complete copies of
    Pinstripe, please use a mirror close to you:

    North Carolina, USA:
    ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/redh at/beta/pinstripe/
    http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/red hat/beta/pinstripe/

    California, USA:
    ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redha t/beta/pinstripe/
    http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redh at/beta/pinstripe/

    California, USA:
    ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/bet a/pinstripe/
    http://www.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/be ta/pinstripe/

    Connecticut, USA:
    ftp://ftp.uselinux.org/pub/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

    Indiana, USA:
    ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/redhat/beta/ pinstripe/
    http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/redhat/beta /pinstripe/

    Michigan, USA:
    ftp://mrhankey.bizserve.com/pub/linux/redhat/ftp.r edhat.com/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

    New York, USA:
    ftp://ftp.ee.cornell.edu/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pin stripe

    Pennsylvania, USA:
    ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/ redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

    Pennsylvania, USA:
    ftp://cronus.res.cmu.edu/pub/linux/ftp.redhat.com/ beta/pinstripe/

    Tennessee, USA:
    ftp://sunsite.utk.edu/pub/linux/redhat/redhat/beta /pinstripe/
    http://sunsite.utk.edu/ftp/pub/linux/redhat/redhat /beta/pinstripe/

    Australia:
    ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/beta/pinstri pe/
    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/beta/pinstr ipe/

    Germany:
    ftp://ftp.gmd.de/mirrors/redhat.com/redhat/beta/pi nstripe/

    Germany:
    ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pi nstripe/
    http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/redhat/beta/p instripe/

    Norway:
    (ISO images only)
    ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/ redhat/redhat/beta/pinstripe/

    Peru:
    ftp://sajino.terra.com.pe/pub/linux/redhat/beta/pi nstripe/

    Japan:
    ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/Linux/packages/RedHat/redh at/beta/pinstripe/

    * What's new in this beta?

    General system improvements:
    o FHS compliant packaging of files
    /usr/man is now /usr/share/man
    /usr/doc is now /usr/share/doc
    /usr/info is now /usr/share/info
    See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ for more information

    o Document roots for Apache and anonymous FTP are removed from
    /home so it may be automounted.

    o Packages with services are automatically restarted on live
    upgrades

    o Expanded LDAP integration

    o Expanded Kerberos integration

    Core system components:
    o glibc 2.1.91
    o XFree86 4.0.1, XFree86 4.0.1 runtime environment
    o XFree86 3.3.6 X servers included for maximum hardware compatibility
    o GNOME 1.2
    o kernel 2.2.16
    o GCC 2.96

    Expanded hardware support:
    o Basic USB support (mouse and keyboards)
    o Expanded hardware accelerated 3-D support

    System service changes:
    o inetd replaced by xinetd
    o BSD lpr replaced by LPRng

    A sampling of package upgrades:
    o GIMP 1.1.24
    o Perl 5.6.0
    o Tcl/Tk 8.3.1

    A sampling of Package additions:
    o SDL, smpeg
    o SANE
    o gphoto
    o MySQL
    o AbiWord
    o dia
    o ispell has been replaced by aspell
    o XEmacs

    Next generation development library previews included:
    o pango: Unicode font rendering
    See http://www.pango.org/
    o Inti: C++ foundation libraries including GTK+ GUI toolkit classes
    See http://sources.redhat.com/inti/

    Enjoy!

    The OS Development Team
    Red Hat, Inc.

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  4. What's new by pyrotic · · Score: 5

    Here's what's new about RH 7.0:

    perl 5.60
    php 4.01 - speed boost over version 3
    mysql - now open source, no longer just in power tools
    XFree86 4.01 - speed boost over version 3
    enterprise kernel - raw filesystems and other performance patches
    kde 1.91 - beta for 2.0, includes new browser
    kde office 1.91

    And what's missing:

    sendmail 8.11 - crypto smtp
    kernel 2.4test5ac - decent smp performance
    tux 1.0 - very fast RedHat kernel web server
    apache 2.0pre4
    bind 9.0 - major rewrite
    staroffice - now it's open source
    LVM
    reiserfs


    Sendmail and staroffice aren't beta and should have gone into this release, the rest are probably too bleeding edge. Anyone think of anything I've missed?