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New Eudora Includes Anti-Flame Technology
imac.usr writes "An intriguing feature of the new version of Eudora is its MoodWatch technology, which analyzes outgoing e-mail for inflammatory language and warns you before sending. The white paper on the subject is available as a PDF file. True, there's no Linux or BSD version of Eudora available, but might the algorithms involved one day make it into other mail programs?"
"I've always found profanity to be refuge of the inarticulate motherfucker."
:) I liked it anyway.
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Are you implying that I would need stuff like that?
Sug: Are you implying that I might require such algorithms?
Take that back you miserable bastard!
Sug: Recind your aqusation, canard!
I have been on the Net for 13 years and know bloody well how to communicate with others.
Sug: I have used the Internet for 13 years, and am well educated in proper etiquette.
I don't need a stupid "AI" program to tell ME how to write damn it!
Sug: In the course of my corespondance, I do not find the assistance of an artificial intelligance neccesary.
You are of course an exception, huh?
Sug: Do you fancy your own writing as deathless prose?
Thinking "Yeah, let me give those slashdotters a hint --- there is way to much flaming there" right?
Sug: Perhaps you say to yourself, "I should help to educate these brigands in civilised discourse?"
Well let me tell you something: you suck!
Sug: In such case, might I offer that, in this case, the teacher is not the elder of the student?
Just because there are stypid minors out there that loves to spew there guts over things at /. to make themselves look cool to their friends does not make all of us spammers.
Sug: The presenace of the precoscious does not, in fact, demonstrate ignorance of the entire assembly.
SO THERE!
Sug: I believe that my point is made.
And Hemos, you better find an app for reading /. submissions and writing article blurbs, because what you do today stinks and I am sure a program could do a better job!
In related matters, perhaps it is time for Hemos to retire, as this article has fallen well below the quality that we have come to know and expect from Slashdot.
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Thank you very much for the electronic notification of your new Internet based service for making money fast while working at home. As far as I'm concerned you may take this offer, print it on sandpaper and insert it into your backside rectal cavity. It's personages of incredibly low intelligence quotient, such as yourself, that give legitimate e-commerce a bad name. Perhaps you may consider opening the window on the top floor of a skyscraper and take a flying leap? Should these notifications continue, you illegitimate offspring of a female canine in heat, I'll be left with no choice but to resort to application of a tire iron to your obviously mentally challenged cranium.
Your attention to this matter, you festering pile of pidgeon droppings, would be greatly appreciated.
Have a nice day.
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I love the smell of a flamewar in the morning!
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12 Sept 2000, Redmond: According to high-ranking Microsoft officials, the powerhouse of innovative software was nearly brought to its knees when it attempted to integrate into its Windows OS products what it calls "automated content analysis."
"The dev team was putting the finishing touches on the product -- Microsoft IdeaWizard," reports one Microsoft employee who wishes to remain nameless. "That feature went way beyond our competitors' offerings, which simply analyze the user's text for inflammatory content. Our product does that, and more!" Microsoft claims that IdeaWizard, which scans text for original ideas not contained in Microsoft's corporate knowledge base, would "save the computing industry the billions of dollars incurred in corporate buyouts by simply uploading all original content to the MKB." In related news, the USPTO recently granted patents to Microsoft on all current and future content of the MKB.
The problem came with the final integration of the IdeaWizard with the OS. According to our source, "as the new versions of Windows booted, IdeaWizard began analyzing the OS itself, creating a kind of introspection none of us had envisioned." The computer hung, displaying only 70-point white text on a blue screen cryptically stating, "Will not continue: This product makes Bill look like an idiot."
With a reported US$3 billion invested, top Microsoft brass feared the worst. That's where the lawers came in. "We realized that, since we pretty much stole the idea of automated content analysis from the Eudora project, their developers are liable for our losses. They will be hearing from our lawers."
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Blaming GW Bush for the Iraq war is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the poor quality of food.
ofcourse it's real. and it's useful for everyone who isn't fluent in english trash-talk. I'll just use eudora and see if the flame I send is inflammatory enough.
//rdj
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--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
While we're writing software to enforce common decency, why don't they add something like:
Are you sure you want to forward "fw:fw:FW: Chain Letter (FOR REAL!!)" to all 135 members of your adress book?
my sig's at the bottom of the page.
If it could keep a list of the addresses that it knows might return dubious content, I'd rather it merely flagged these, telling me that it might well get bumped back ...
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"I do not speak for my employers, though they are controlled from my Teddy's huge pulsating brain."
I wrote a flame detector back in 1995 that appears to be more sophisticated than the Eudora one. See the PDF, PostScript, or HTML versions of the paper I presented at the Innovative Applications of Artificial Intelligence (IAAI) conference in 1997.
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Bah. Humbug. Bring back old usenet, with its multi-day lags and flaming as an artform.
We don't need programs to *warn* of inflamatory writing, but rather to *improve* it. Believe it or not, net.flame was often worth reading. Alas, most of the flamemasters are gone.
While we're at it, ban mime!
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\ps{newbie! only 13?
hawk, fka hawk@olivetti.atc
Can't they just make an e-mail client that works? Don't they know that writing network software that analyses the e-mail you send just makes everyone suspicious?
It's like diplomacy: the art of telling someone to go to hell in such a manner that he thanks you for the directions.
:)
:) to hang himself.
Heavy venom is only a few years old, He's been around long enough to know far better methods
For an old-style flamewar, go back about three months to alt.folklore.computers and the exchanges between peter seebach (moderator of comp.lang.c or somesuch) and mark crispin (author of pine). Crispin wasn't bad, but seebach showed the ancient art in fine form
The *real* beauty comes from the subtle setup where you allow your opponent (or victim
hawk
Mime in your email: 3psi on your bloodpressure
html in your email: 5 psi
java in your email: 20 psi
The look on bill gates' face when he sees these stupid ideas have caused his own email to spam the world: priceless
:)
hawk
Now I'd be more impressed if it bitched when someone tried to send out a mail that was badly spelt, all lower or uppercase and has no punctuation. THAT is a much better idea for a filter.
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No, but it's a Big Brother Tool (tm). What worries me about patches like this, is their potential requirement by the workplace or, more upsetting, the government. Then it is a threat to free speech.
Lets look over its features:
:)
* Warns you if your drafted email contains potentially offensive language
Do they mean I don't know what's offensive or not? Besides, the things that most profoundly offend most people are things that wouldn't be caught by a "bad word filter" anyway.
* Alerts you to potentially offensive incoming messages
So it scans the message for you before you read it, I presume? I smell possible exploits... But then again, anything can be exploited so that's not a big issue.
* Graphically monitors tone on a graduated scale
One, two or three peppers? Spice up your life!
* Visual indicator is conveniently located in the user interface
Peppers in the warning message, and on the toolbar too...
* And it's a whole lot of fun - maybe you're the sort who will wear the chillies with defiant pride.
I can see it already: "I just sent the VP a triple chillie message!" "Watch out for the flame that's gonna come out of his arse in a day or so".
Q: Does this thing get ticked off if I use a few profanities?
A: Yes, and so does your mother.
How dare they claim to know what my mother thinks?
Q: What if I get sick of it?
A: Turn it off
The first bit of sound advice I've seen so far.
Q: If I don't use nasty words, will MoodWatch still notify me?
A: MoodWatch looks at both individual words and phrases that are commonly considered offensive, dictatorial, aggressive, insulting and rude. You don't have to write a nasty word to get a chili pepper, but it helps.
So it's somewhat intelligent too. But is it also intelligent the other way around? Will kinologists be able to talk about their prize bitch without being peppered? When I send a message to a fellow Pagan, will I be able to call him/her a witch without risking the chillies? Can fundamentalist Christians have a discussion about what colour Jesus' ass (as in donkey, you donkey) was without getting spiced up?
In my opinion this MoodWatch thingy has about the same usefulness Clippy the Friendly Office Assistent: None Whatsoever.
And the whole thing seems to be aimed towards kids, especially the last "benifit" and that one Q/A about mom disapproving aswell.
Q: As long as I avoid commonly used offensive language MoodWatch will miss it, so what's the point?
A: The point is, at least you were being careful about what you wrote. That's something.
I don't need an electronic conscience in my mail/news reader. My own will do just fine, thank you.
)O(
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what the fuck is up with this bullshit?
;-)
seriously though, at least they only warn you rather than refusing to send it. But, on the other hand, i always thought the whole point of language was to get your point across with as much brevity and clarity as possible. A word like fuck, if used properly, can be very effective in expressing exhasperation or dismay (see the mp3
FluX
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"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
I used Eudora. Live Picture is just about done with its bankrupcy proceedings.
I'm afraid I didn't save the letter (which I think was one of the best things I ever wrote), but I remember saying that Live Picture was special because it provided quality technical employment in Santa Cruz County, but in Silicon Valley it would be just another software company in a sea of faceless companies stretching from horizon to horizon.
I copied the resignation widely throughout the company (including the president) three hours after the president announced plans for the move. Later that evening I began collecting URLs to list in the first version of the above-linked web page and a few days later quietly passed out the URLs to my fellow employees.
The president, (ahem) "resigned" after losing tens of millions of dollars.
Usually my very best emails are flames...
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If combined with a better than babelfish translator.
I've worked with several non-native english speakers over the years and it would be truely great if I could have my email translated, and then have mood watch double check and make sure I didn't accidently slip in some offensive slang or something. Sometimes phrases that seem very innocent in the writers native language can end up being a slang term for something that the reader may find offensive....
In that case MoodWatch actually has a point....
Myddrin
takes ordinary, routine, mundane, everyday business email and turns it into retina scorching, personally insulting, withering verbal abuse.
Where's Don Rickles when you need him?
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
Now announcing FlameGuard 1.0 for all Linux clients:
#!/usr/bin/perl
if(/(moron)|(cluestick)|(asshole)|(stupid)/gi)
{
&warn_user;
}
It's just none of them are as good as 'fuck'.
(Gratuitously ripped off from Billy Connelly)
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Of the messages marked as flames in Eudora, there are 27 with 2 peppers and 12 with 3 peppers, none of which are even close to being considered flames. One was a newspaper editorial. As far as I can tell, it has multiple criteria, but one of the parameters is if the e-mail contains shit, even once, it's a flame.
--GnrcMan--
Perhaps /. will be next. Imagine a special moderation category for flamebait; flames could be original, nasty, brutish, lengthy, etc; you'd acquire "Dogma" for successfully moderated-up flames.
I fuckin' love it. Sign me up.
sulli
sulli
RTFJ.
Oh God, it's real. All an e-mail client needs is a spell checker and sometimes a grammar checker. I don't need some new bug, er, feature telling me if I'm going to offend someone.
I know when I'm going to offend someone! That's the point! When I say you're a Jesus raping, donkey licking, shit faced, cock sucking, uncle fucking, ass spelunking, corn-holing, vaseline smelling, penis puke, mother fucking, son of bitch, gosh darn-it, I mean it!
If Mr. Edison had thought smarter he wouldn't sweat as much. --Nikola Tesla
You made a good job avoiding:
shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, tits and motherfucker (seems profoundly stupid to me to list both 'fuck' and 'motherfucker' in a list of banned words. After all, does that mean that I can say "fuckhead" on TV?).
Otherwise, your post might have been moderated doen...
/me says goodbye to his hard-earned Karma
In really this is just a foul language scanner.
I fail to see the usefulness of such a function. Firstly and most importantly, how can analysis of language pretend to pick up the tone of language that is found to be insulting by a human? I think you can see this in the example Eudora provide on their site, ranking a only slightly insulting message (IMHO) with three of their chillies. This is supposed to be for the most offensive language, yet their analysis of the sentence structure or whatnot indicates otherwise.
The most obvious flame signs (swear words etc) are mostly used by those new to the net, who use flames without considering fully the consequences. These are also most likely to turn this function off, or ignore the messages (often in the heat of anger) rendering the device useless.
But once again, my point is, don't complain that Eudora is going nowhere with their new version if you are not helping to create some project that is pushing mail clients forward. Eudora is working to do just that, and if you think it is the wrong direction, put your thoughts into code and write a better client!
-- Matt Ryall
Maybe Rob can include this feature in slashcode...
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
The first email I sent was a love letter. As I was typing it there was this little icon of an ice cube in the corner. Eudora was telling my that my love life is frigid. (Thanks Eudora)
The only way to spice up my love life was to add a bit of naughtness. I guess the software knows whats its doing. :-)
Does anybody else find it ironic that "Eudora" gets underlined in red by the spell checker in Eudora?
What worries me about patches like this, is their potential requirement by the workplace
First of all, your employer has the right to retain editorial control over messages you send using company equipment, bandwidth, and time. They are paying for those things afterall. Email sent by an employee naturally reflects on the company, so there right to ensure that messages sent are not damaging to the company should not be an issue here.
or, more upsetting, the government. Then it is a threat to free speech.
True, if the government were to mandate the use of such software, it would be a threat to free speech. That, however, is a sign of a very flawed government decision, and not the fault of the software simply because of its existance. Many technologies have the potential to be abused by the government. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be invented or used by people. It means we need to keep our government under better control.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
When I was running a bulletin board about ten years ago I remember that used to do this in a very basic form too.
Type in too many exclamation marks!!! or keep the CAPS LOCK key on too much and the editor status line would come up and say helpful things like "Flame mode on" and stuff.
I guess they won't get a patent on it then, huh.
When I first saw the headline, I thought that Eudora was implementing something like Hotmail's bulkmail feature. Any emails that don't have your email address in the 'To:' field are automagically sent to either another BULKMAIL folder, or deleted immediately. A very nice feature for those of us that hate to spend time tweaking rulesets in our mail programs (let's not even get into having to redo them after a reinstall.. ARGH!). That would have been nice. (Ever wonder why more programs don't have a feature like this??)
This anti-flame thing sound like a load of malarky. A feature that no one else has, that Eudora can market; regardless of the fact that it has no real worth to the end user.
Rami
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I actually used the beta of Eudora 5.0 for a while until I got sick of it crashing. It's not very stable yet.
The feature, in my opinion, is not very useful. In addition to evaluating email you send out, it also tags incoming email for offensiveness. I get (long story -- I was working on a book about televangelists in the Middle East, a project I have now largely abandoned) regular emails from Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network. These were often marked with a flame or two, whereas the common "remember me? I'm Jenny and I'm hot for you!" spam never merited a peep.
It seems to me that human communication is not something that can be analysed well with current technology, and even if it could this application would be of questionable value.
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Give me liberty or give me something of equal or lesser value from your glossy 32-page catalog.
I mean, there's not a lot of cool new features you can add to an email client without it becoming silly.
On the other hand Microsoft haven't been doing too badly integrating cool new features into Outlook Express, all freely downloadable! So far there's been Melissa, ILOVEYOU, the KAK worm...
I'm not "USian". I'm from Luxembourg. I speak Luxembourgish. The only language in which they drop the "o" from the name is German, as far as I know, but certainly not English. Therefore your attempt to correct, flame and/or make funny failed.
To get this on topic again, though, anti-flame technology might prevent the usage of strong language. But I am more offended by childish remarks, irrelevant ramblings and careless (full of errors) usage of a language. And I doubt the Eudora team, or anybody else for that matter, could come up with a "stupidity filter" that just delays messages until they reach a given thresold of meaning and intelligence. :)
What we need is not less flame but better quality in the flame we have!
Lets face it, you can never find the right insult when you really need it.
To that end, I predict the rise of MailRazor 1.0, an add-on that monitors your email messages and offers suggestions to make your point with razor-sharp wit instead of blunt profanities.
I see at least three modes :
A nice pop up that says 'these are pretty strong words to email your boss or ex-girlfreind, you can't send this until your BAC gets closer to 0'
Somehow, I don't see anyone integrating this with ELM any time soon.
The Internet is generally stupid
Are you implying that I would need stuff like that? Take that back you miserable bastard! I have been on the Net for 13 years and know bloody well how to communicate with others. I don't need a stupid "AI" program to tell ME how to write damn it! You are of course an exception, huh? Thinking "Yeah, let me give those slashdotters a hint --- there is way to much flaming there" right? Well let me tell you something: you suck! Just because there are stypid minors out there that loves to spew there guts over things at /. to make themselves look cool to their friends does not make all of us spammers. SO THERE!
And Hemos, you better find an app for reading /. submissions and writing article blurbs, because what you do today stinks and I am sure a program could do a better job!
Cordially,
Lars
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Reality or nothing.
New alert box in Eudora 2001:
I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you send this email. I can tell from the tone of your writing, Dave, that you're upset. Why don't you take a stress pill and get some rest?
No really...is this for real? It can't be real. If it was it's got to be one of the most lame-assed-dumb-fucked-shit-headed ideas I've ever seen.
If Mr. Edison had thought smarter he wouldn't sweat as much. --Nikola Tesla
This seems like yet another little add on that I, for one will have turned off most of the time..
I don't know whether it's just me, but I find the idea of a 'flame detector' on email weird..
When I write an email, I pretty much think of what I want to write overall, then just fit the words in to say it...
It's much like having a conversation.
Those people who delight in being a little offensive wouldn't give two hoots for this either (except, maybe trying to increase their chilli rating)...
I wish they'd spent more of the time porting the client to Linux/BSD, although, to be fair, it does seem as though they're investing in ideas, no matter how strange, and allowing the user (shock of shocks in this day and age) to disable this functionality if it annoys them.
Malk
Don't you all realise that this is really the work of the MPAA trying to cut down on the trading of Hollywood movie scripts over the internet? You better be careful if you turn it off, they might sue you under the DMCA for illegally bypassing a copy-protection feature. (And it's locked with an "Are you sure?" dialog box. Anyone who presses "Ok" is committing a felony.)
hrmm... I wonder how Eudora is doing on fuckedcompany.com. Whoops! I just got a red pepper.
(PS. I kinda like red peppers. Anyone got some guacamole?)
Any sufficiently advanced civilization is indistinguishable from Gods.
Like, for example: - Hierarchical thread displays, including *replies*, so you can see a big picture of threads (handy for list traffic). - Smarter search capabilities. - Compatability with database engines, for those with *really* large mail archives (I've got every mail I've ever sent since '92) - Speedups. Lord knows, Eudora could use a few of those... Can't think of anything else, but surely there's gotta be better features than this lame-ass big brotherware?
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Thad
Thad
[Message censored by Slashdot anti-flame filter]
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"May I have ten thousand marbles, please?"
I've been using the betas now for several weeks, and I was a little surprised when I did a logic proof (submitted via email). . .
I got three chilli peppers (on fire) . . .
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Never trust anyone over 90000.
Eudora is bloated, but not as much as e-mail client in Mozzila.
Can't they just split those things (browser, e-mail...) apart ?
The nature of the internet and email, allowing people to communicate with others with the shield of anonymity means that people feel none of the need to be polite that governs our conversations in the real world, and instead feel safe in expressing their opinions in abusive, derogatory language that their mothers wouldn't approve of. We see it here every day on /. after all.
Maybe if emails were filtered to block messages that were too flamey then people would get the chance to "cool down" and really think about what they're doing. Rather than an increasing amount of "internet rage" coming from an exchange of increasingly virulent mail, a rational discourse could be established. After all, in public speaking forums there are rules of conduct to be followed, and where is the difference here?
Why should the online world be subject to knee-jerk reactions and childish name-calling from people too petty to behave in a reasonable way?
But how well will it really work? Remember that bullshit a while back about the comapny that had the "porn detection" app, the one that looks at photos and can tell if it has a nipple in it? ya, like that worked.
Id like to see how well it works on, say..
No, fuck you man. I'm going to come over to your house and kill your dog, but first i'm going to rap your girlfriend and piss in your mouth! You cock sucking fag!"
no offence of course, i'm just trying to think of how it could know with out a doubt this is flame mail. I mean what if it said...
No (way), fuck you (that dude). I'm going to come over to your house (help) you (feed) your dog, but first i'm going to (help) you kill the borden your girlfriend (is giving you), and (clean) your (toilet)! You cock sucking fag!, (hehe)"
maybe that one is too easy. but anyway, i don't really trust a computer to understand the "meaning" of any of this, and i have doubt any system is going to figure it out.
-Jon
this is my sig.
When will society at large actually get a move on, and stop trying to throw technology at things that should really be dealt with in education/learning.
Really, you should know full well what is inflammatory or not from a lifetime of talking to people, and knowing how they react...
'Twould be a sad day if someday you had to carry round some electronic device to act as your conscience...
Malk
Even though Eudora 5 offers some new features and bugfixes, I'm disappointed that the major headlight in this version is a "mood watch", which seems to me like nothing more than a filter that displays an small image whenever it stumbles across a potentially offensive word.
I don't know how large the Eudora team is, but I'm sure there would be better things to implement or reconsider than a basic algorithm that controls the user's language. I am rarely in the mood to use any words Eudora might consider as offensive, but if I am, I still feel that I would be a better judge of what can be said and what can't than any mail program could possibly be.
Besides, what about multi-language users? I typically write emails in four different languages. While I'm sure French and German will get implemented, I somehow doubt that the team would know enough Luxembourgish to build up a suitable database.
One thing it does though, I have to admit, is that it offers a pretty reliable filter for any "free xxx" spam mails I receive. :)
...let's be reasonable.
If you actually bother to read the PDF-file referenced in the story, you will see that the author of the white paper, David Kaufer, makes it clear that this is not "big brother software" he is proposing.
"The use of a flame meter needs to be a voluntary act," he points out - and underlines his point that the purpose of the algorithm is to assist a writer in identifying potentially hurtful text, not to prevent him from writing it.
In my experience, one often has a completely different view of one's text than the readers. Having created the text, and knowing what it was intended to communicate, one can easily become blind to the other interpretations that the recipients can put on one's words.
I'm not sure I'd use a flame meter filter, myself, but I certainly can't see that it's a threat against anyone's free speech. On the contrary, it can probably be a very valuable tool to assist writers in making sure that they are getting their message across to others.
- Ravn
- Peter Ravn Rasmussen
Have you ever noticed that whenever someone ends a sentence with ", thank you" (as in "I don't need an electronic conscience in my mail/new reader. My own will do just fine, thank you."), they never mean it? Same with sentences that begin with "I'll thank you to..."
Maybe someone could write a program that would filter for that...
So, at that point in the game I decided then to just go out with my alliance to my family and just to hold my dignity and values in check, and hoping I hadn't lost to many of them, and uh... play the game just as long as possible and hang in there as long as possible.
But, Kelly, go back to a couple times Jeff said to you what goes around comes around. It's here. You will not get my vote. My vote will go to Richard. And I hope that is the one vote that makes you lose the money. If it's not, I'll shake your hand, and I'll go on from here, but if I were to ever pass you along in life again, and you were laying there dying of thirst, I would not give you a drink of water. I would let the vultures take you and do whatever they want with ya... with no ill regrets.
I plead to the jury tonight to think a little bit about the island we have been on. This island is pretty much full of only two things: snakes and rats. And in the end of mother nature, we have Richard the snake who knowingly went after prey, and Kelly who turned into the rat, that ran around like the rats do on this island, trying to run from the snake. I feel we owe it to the island's... spirits... that we have come to know to let it be in the end the way mother nature intended it to be, for the snake to eat the rat."
Eudora Score: 2 red peppers
"I fuckin love you man! You are the shit!"
Eudora Score: 3 red peppers
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