Kuro5hin Returns

TheTomcat writes "Kuro5hin is back up and better than ever, with its new server from VA Linux. At 2pm(1pm EST) today, the site went live, after a month or so of downtime." Well, this was the first submission in the bin to actually say it was up. Congrats to the whole gang and welcome back. And everyone else stop submitting their return, 'k? *grin* Update: 09/19 01:53 PM by CN : SlashNET will be hosting a forum with Rusty and Inoshiro on Saturday at 5:00 PM PDT (0:00 GMT). Looks like a good opportunity to welcome k5 back, as well as learn how they've overcome the issues that kept them down.

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Heheh..

[TheTomcat]

I typed it up before it was up, waited for the countdown, checked it, and then submitted once it was live.

I was over-anxious. (-:

Re:Heheh..

[Hairy_Potter]

I was over-anxious. (-:

try thinking about baseball.

Wonder how long...

[zpengo]

...until Slashdot knocks it back down.

Slashdot: "I'm going to pet him, and love him, and call him Kuro5hin..." *squash*

Way to go, Hemos...

[mr.ska]

They spend a ton of time and effort trying to get their servers and site back up and running, finally succeed...

..and 20 minutes later Hemos gets 'em slashdotted. Bra-vo. :)

Christ

[Dr. Sp0ng]

I was reading k5 for a few minutes, and suddenly I couldn't get through anymore - so what do I see when I see Slashdot? "Kuro5hin returns." Bastards.

To quote Inoshiro from IRC about 2 seconds ago: "I will hunt Hemos. And kill him. That is all."
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Re:Christ

[Dr. Sp0ng]

So when's Smokedot coming back up?

Heh heh... this whole "k5 coming back up" thing must've reminded people about Smokedot - I've gotten like 15 "when's smokedot coming back?" emails today :-)
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This is like a game of "whack a mole"

[Syn.Terra]

I can see it now...

"Look! Kuro5hin is back up! Get it! Get it!"

Whack! Whack! Whack!

This could get ugly.

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Kuro5hin, we hardly knew ye...

[pq]

Resurrected from the grave, only to be trampled by the monstrous hordes of /. and ground back into the dust. This proves it once and for all: Cmdr Rob Malda "Pants are optional" Taco was responsible for the original DDOS, and he's done it again...

:) Smiley captioned for the humour impaired...

Holiday?

[zpengo]

I think that this day should be marked in all calendars and declared to be Kuro5hin day!

I think it's funny, though, that my browser shows the title of the page as "Cannot Find Server."

Props

[KMSelf]

Just a thanks to Slashdot, particularly Jeff "Hemos" Bates for non-stop gavel-to-gavel coverage of the K5 saga, VA for the server, VHosting.com for the coloc, the Scoop crew for code, Intes for sundry details, and Rusty for not throwing in the towel. Couldn'a done i' w'chout ye.

What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?

Yep - it's dead

[Ron Harwood]

That's kind of ironic... that the announcement of it's "rebirth" - results in it being killed.

Puhlease

[zlite]

What was Hemos supposed to do? Never mention that they were up? Wait a few days? Mention it but beg people not to click on the link?

If Kuro5hin can't handle the traffic, they shouldn't be in the business. After all /. is by definition /.ed ever day and holds up (mostly) fine.

Cut em a break.

#kuro5hin quotes

[KMSelf]

Well, being the domain junkie I am, I just registered SlashDoS.org and SlashDDoS.org

What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?

You can read more detail about the launch...

[Anonymous Coward]

at LinuxToday. Rusty Foster wrote a first-hand account of the site going back up; funny it wasn't linked to from here.

Little plugs from /.

[Frac]

Kuro5hin is back up and better than ever, with its new server from VA Linux. At 2pm(1pm EST) today, the site went live, after a month or so of downtime.

Related links: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Re:Little plugs from /.

[zpengo]

What the hell was that?

Re:Little plugs from /.

[TheTomcat]

I hope that doesn't get marked troll. Truth be told, I left VA Linux unlinked, and someone managed to link it up anyway. (-:

Re:Little plugs from /.

[jellicle]

There's an auto-link function that finds various company names and links them. I think "Wired" is probably the phrase that gets auto-linked most often.

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Michael Sims-michael at slashdot.org

Re:Little plugs from /.

[_xeno_]

Actually, it's much more like when you tell a 2-year-old not to stick his tongue out at you. What's he gonna do? Stick his tongue out at you.

Plus the novelty of moderating wares off very quickly. It's too much of a chore to actually be a good moderator. Reminds me of when I was in jr. high, I told a teacher he couldn't hold me after class. What'd he do? Hold me after class (but not that day! See, I had a ... uh, prior commitment. Um, elsewhere.).

Basically, if you tell someone "don't do that" what're they going to do? Do it. Similar to the MPAA saying "don't link to DeCSS!" What happened? Everyone linked to DeCSS!

It's not that surprising. Watch - I dare someone to moderate this as "insightful." Now I'll get moderated as "flamebait," "troll," "offtopic" (no one ever bothers reading the parent post, that's just boring!), or, if they're afraid of losing karma, "overrated."

Re:Little plugs from /.

[Mike A.]

Or maybe you'll get rated "insightful" because of Murphy's Meta-Law. :-)

I predict this comment won't get moderated at all. Now, let's see what happens. :-)

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[Geccoman]

So, basically, the purpose of Slashdot is to announce news, crash the server the news resides on, and then the slashdot users comment on the crash later. I like it.

DoS from slashdot

[Anonymous Coward]

i think slashdot should be classified as a sort of DoS and should be DENYied.
bastards.. look what they did to K5,.

please help to take these *outlaws* down.. add this to your firewall.
keep the internet a safe place to surf..
ipchains -A input -i eht0 -s slashdot.org -j DENY -l

Kuro5hin returns... to the closet

[Frac]

Posted by Hemos on 12:09 PM September 18th, 2000
from the time-for-/.-to-drown-kuro5hin dept.
Roozbeh The Atomic Microscope writes "Kuro5hin is back down again, even with its new server from VA Linux. At 3pm(2pm EST) today, the site went dead from /.ing, after a hour or so of uptime." Congrats to the whole /. gang, and welcome back to /., Kuro5hin admins! (we figured that you're homeless again) *grin*

It's good to see them back.

[dbarclay10]

It's good to see them back, it really is. I hate it when something like that happens. However, I must stay that I hope that the quality of kuro5hin's users stays the same. I must say the worst thing for a web log like Slashdot or kuro5hin is to have hordes of immature/bad users. Slashdot seems to be coping with it well enough. Sort of ;)
'Round the firewall,
Out the modem,
Through the router,
Down the wire,

Re:Back to business, guys

[Col. Klink (retired)]

> geeks are too busy backstabbing each other

And just how, exactly, are you any different? I just went and read your last 5 comments. Every one of them is an attack. I don't ever recall reading a supportive word from you. And *you* acuse /. of "feeling superior"?

Re:Back to business, guys

[Foogle]

Hey, in his defense, you don't have to be part of the solution to point out the problem. It's not about pointing fingers, it's about recognizing the problem.

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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

(-10, Redundant) It's the life.

[WWWWolf]

A few moments before 20:00 local time: Saw the Armageddon Clock ticking on the web page.

20:00: Didn't respond.

20:05 or so: WOW! It's alive!

20:10: Ugh, cookie expired, can't remember password, I guess their mail queue is a bit long when I didn't get the reply from MailPassword(tm).

Can't ssh to my mail host - so I upgraded ssh, which involved a loooooong apt-get update. Infuriating...

20:15: Hooray, ssh works. No reply from mailpasswd yet.

20:30: So now k5 stopped responding too. Quick look at /.: Yep, the DoS-bait is there. Duh.

Looks like it'll be a looong night. =(

Just a little beta testing ...

[John Jorsett]

..and 20 minutes later Hemos gets 'em slashdotted. Bra-vo. :)

Think of it a free shakedown of the new server. Why, /. ought to be charging them for this valuable service. ;-)

..next you're going to tell me that it's pining...

[Ron Harwood]

...for fjords...

If Their Server Came From Dell...

[istartedi]

...Compaq, or some other manufacturer, would you have mentioned that and linked to them?

For those who don't know, /. is owned by VA.

the way story submission works at k5

[brokeninside]

Every user can look over the submissions queue. Every user gets one vote per story. The vote is either (1) post it, (0) don't care, or (-1) don't post it.

Stories that reach a critical number which is a percentage of the total number of users get put on the front page. Stories can be commented on while still in the queue, regardless of whether they ever make the front page or not. Comments can be one of two types: (1) editorial, suggesting changes to the story in spelling, style, grammar; or (2) topical, pertaining to a discussion. The editorial comments do not survive if the story makes the front page.

All in all it works fairly well.

The best thing about k5 was the people there. The breadth of k5 was much wider than /. Discussions of everything from gun control to how to secure a linux box have made the front page.

Re:SLASHDOTTED!

[Hurst Dawg]

we are not denying slashdot redirects. The problem is soo many people hitting it at once. i.e. the slashdot effect. The slashdot effect is not one continuos stream of requests, but waves. So sometimes you can get a reply. But we aren't blocking requests from slashdot. That would be stupid

K5 is an equal opportunity website

[KMSelf]

There is no ToS conspiracy. K5 is laboring under several hundred Apache processes talking to several hundred MySQL requests. It's slow. It has been responding a bit in the past few minutes. It's been performing at peak rated load (about 6 hits/second) for most for the past hour and a half. There's just a lot of requests coming through.

And your link just finished loading as I've been typing this post.

What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?

Re:Back to business, guys

[GypC]

How is that different from any other group of people? You get 4 metal-heads in a room together and they are gonna argue that Judas Priest is better than Iron Maiden... (Black Sabbath is the best BTW, not that I'm a metal-head or anything :)

"Free your mind and your ass will follow"

I had a weird dream friday night...

[Nugget94M]

I had a dream friday night that kuro5hin came back online and somehow, I'd managed to stumble upon this fact before the news hit slashdot. As part of their recovery, they'd had to wipe out the user login database, so everyone was having to create new user account, and since it the site had only just then been re-introduced, only five people had managed to create their accounts. I was really excited that I was going to be able to snag a really 'leet low user id number, so I clicked the button to re-create my account. However, since I'm just on a crappy old modem, and it's slow as hell, the form I had to fill out was taking forever to load up. I just knew that while I was sitting and waiting for the whole page to load, the article would hit slashdot and I'd be screwed. By the time I had the page loaded up and filled out, I ended up getting a seven-digit ID number. I was so bummed.

I think this means I need a life.

<title>Cannot find server</title>

[yerricde]

I think it's funny, though, that my browser shows the title of the page as "Cannot Find Server."

This is caused by the Micro$oft Infernal Exploiter 5.5 bug that "refreshing" a res:// page (the error messages) into a working page (like you did with K5) doesn't update the title. Bites me too when viewing slashdotted pages.

<O
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XGNOME vs. KDE: the game!

Like the user interface...

[sheldon]

Don't know much about the content of this kiru5hin site, but...

The front web page sure looks good, a lot nicer than the dated slashdot.org look.

Re:Offtopic But Valid

[QuoteMstr]

Why don't you post this *once* to Kuro5hin? It can then be modded up or down by the community. It would at least give people a chance to comment rationally on it.

Re: slashdot loads

[Inoshiro]

heh, well.. it was understable :) The load spiked to 17 almost as it clicked over, I thought it was Hemos' doing..

As is, we've had ~900 new users, and a near-rewrite by a panicy rusty while I baby-sat MySQL/Apache all day..

Wooo.. now it works and is not slow under load :)
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Re: Smokedot

[Dr. Sp0ng]

When I just went to smokedot.org all there was was a banner for "crackaddict.com"? And when I went to crackaddict.com just the same thing. oh well..

Oh good, the DNS has updated. Yeah, change of plans - it's possible that Smokedot will be back up tonight! Woohoo! My friend from high school (who I haven't talked to in 4 years, and just /msg'ed me out of the blue on IRC today) offered to host it, and crackaddict.com is his site. Right now I'm waiting for him to get back from dinner so he can finish installing perl modules and stuff like that and get it working.
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Re: slashdot loads

[Inoshiro]

What's wrong with MySQL? We've never had it crash as a result of internal problems in MySQL. The one time it did crash, was because rusty's code couldn't handle the load and apache/mod_perl started going wonky in how it spoke to MySQL (back in July). But Scoop has improve, and the MySQL we are using is a few versions past what was installed there.

Really, 3.23.x is stable in its latest builds :-P
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