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640 Gig HD in 1U Of Rack Space
I'm running for prez writes "Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U. They are called StorageEngine (4 drives) and StorageArray (8 drives), that both run Ultra160 SCSI (hot swappable). Check out the specs." 640 gigs would be about 192 hours at the top quality tivo record. I could store all my DVDs, all my MP3s, and still have enough room for every episode of South Park and the Simpsons!
Thank you, captain obvious
Yeah, but how much are they?
/. articles for news toys without prices quoted anywhere?
/. is becoming a re-broadcaster of press releases rather than a "news" site.
Is anyone else getting really pissed off seeing
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From the specs...
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<I>With the Voyager(TM), you get up to 144 GB of data in 1U (1.75 inches), and an additional 288 GB of storage in a 1U optional disk array called StorageArray(TM), for a total of 432 GB in 2U.</I>
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So, you get 144 GB in 1U from these guys, and Maxtor give you 320 GB. Not exactly a broken record...
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Bah. 640 Gigs should be enough for anybody.
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C'mon, do the math... 8 drives * 36 GB/drive = 288 GB in 1U. That's the add-on box, the main box has half that. Where did the 640 GB figure come from?! The vendor's web site only claims 432 GB in 2U.
:-)
(Still, it's impressive to have multi-TB storage along with a beowulf cluster in one rack
Ok, it's not that impressive, but we pretty much did it with off the shelf parts, and it was very cheap. 12x 75G 7200RPM IBM IDE drives, BX chipset board, redundant hot-swap power supplies, 1G ECC RAM, and 2x PIII-850, Kingston low-profile UDMA66 hot-swap enclosures, and 2 3Ware 6800 RAID controllers. In an ACME 5U case, with just 16 strips of 80mm x 15mm metal (with three holes drilled in each), as the custom hardware ;-)
I forget the exact cost (this was a few months ago), but it was under $10,000
Okay, so you've got your 640G of space, better get a DLT drive to back it up. Ooh, an 80GB drive costs 3000 pounds. And then you need eight tapes at 50 pounds a go to do one backup. Might as well get a robot arm to do tape handling. Lets get ten sets of backup tapes and budget for a quarterly archive copy...
You do backup your hard disk dont you?
In what way is it a crime to have mp3's/dvd's?
Who wants to sit there and swap CD's in and out of a piddly little 6 disc changer...when you could simply rip them on to hard drive, and relax with a remote?
Same deal with DVD's...
The first thing I do when I get a new CD is rip it. As soon as you get a couple of little scratches on a CD, it'll skip to no end...what if you leave that CD somewhere, or someone steals it...it is much nicer to have a backup, so you don't have to worry about....you just burn it.
This is such a good idea, that the Canadian Gov't is charging you for the privilege!
The basic sleazeware produced in a drunken fury by a bunch of UCBerkeley grad students was still the core of BIND. --PV
...and you still couldn't do a full install of Mandrake 7.2.
Bryan R.
Bryan R.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, or $12.50 as seen on eBay.....
As someone who's interested in the future of private, anonymous file sharing and mp3, I take offense at people who break the law by pirating mp3s.
I have mp3'd my (read: "my") entire album collection of 150 CDs, and it's using 17GB. Either you have several thousand CDs, or you're doing damage to the filesharing case by stealing music.
If you listen to a piece of music, and you want to keep listening to it, buy it. If you don't like it, delete it. Prove to the RIAA that we're good customers, not pirates.
bye.
640 K^HGigabytes should be enough for anyone...
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It was really a scary experience for me when I started my job at the national lab. It was like a whole other world of computing. I came from a small school where we cleaned off 10 megabytes of cache to preserve disk space. Here, I had a guy look me in the eye and say, quite honestly, that he needed 10 TB (terabytes) of storage to get his work done "adequately" and he could really use 70 TB. I just could not believe that. We recently purchased a 2TB array, and it's not even remotely enough. Those damn scientists and all their data ;)
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Neither design is either very revolutionary or very reliable from the looks of their respective websites. I still don't see where whomever posted the /. note got 640mb, because the math simply doesn't add up. The only thing I can figure is if they are releasing a StorageArray with 72gb drives and haven't gotten around to posting it yet.
As for that ExaDrive 3U unit, it looks extremely sketchy at best. I mean, I don't know how far I trust the combination of Fibre Channel and IDE in the first place, but they aren't even using ATA100 drives, you can't hot swap ONE drive at a time, you need to remove the 2 drive tray to do it, which leaves me at a loss as to how it would even work. There are no specs on the drives themselves other than the fact that they're ATA66. And how can you trust a company to build a reliable SAN-ready array when they can't even build a website?
Ugh, IDE is NOT the way to go for any type of serious storage solution, I don't care how cheap you need it.
From http://www.networkengines.com/st ora gengine.htm
Highest density Internet storage available!
With the Voyager(TM), you get up to 144 GB of data in 1U (1.75 inches), and an additional 288 GB of storage in a 1U optional disk array called StorageArray(TM), for a total of 432 GB in 2U.
I'm not sure how 432 GB in 2U is equal to 640 GB in 1U. The press release for the StorageEngine again only mentions the 144 GB in 1U/432 GB in 2U.
VA Linux and IBM both have a partnership with Network Engines for their 1U server box. This article has more info.
Right, but for pure hard-core geek factor, the bad ass 3U, 24 drive, dual fibre channel exadrive is what i want in my living room :)
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Here's a nifty product - 1.8 Tb (thats 1843 gigs, kiddies) in 3U. And its got dual Fibre Channel ports (as opposed to Network Engine's single U160 SCSI), for a max throughtput of about 200MB/s. I don't thinks its released yet, but I've seen some beta units and this thing rocks.
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Warning: Do not stand within 6 feet of StorageArray. Keep StorageArray away from small children or pregnant mothers. Handle StorageArray with extreme caution. Always were saftey goggles when working with StorageArray. Do not taunt Storage Array.
Someone you trust is one of us.
I wanted to order the CmdrTaco version, with all those DVD's, MP3's, Simpsons and South Park episodes pre-loaded, but I couldn't find the ordering page on CmdrTaco.net. Please advise.
No way, I want to fill a rack with them. Let's see, 42 of these, 640GB each... that works out to 26.25TB. Terabytes. That's enough space for Rob to store TEN MONTHS of music...
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How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
Ooops. That should read TEN MONTHS of TiVo.
You could also store a copy of almost every DVD ever made. Might need two racks to get them all. Suddenly the idea of being able to watch any movie you want, anytime you want, doesn't sound so farfetched.
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How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
Nope - it's a lame attempt at very subtle humour.
BlackNova Traders
...do the math with bigger drives...
Heck drives are up over 70 gigs now...
BlackNova Traders
...get an inverter and put it in your car.
I have one for my laptop that works quite nicely. Plug it in to the lighter - and 120V AC comes out...
BlackNova Traders
...how some people relate storage space to their lives.
Some people think about it in number of CD's (or even floppies) it is worth... Others think about the database it could hold.
Rob thinks about how much music he could fill it with.
BlackNova Traders
Sid
If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
So, 640GB huh? how much $$$? I seem to have a habbit of using my HD space whether I have and interest in what I am downloading or not. Oh c'mon, I know you are out there. The space just disappears and the next thing you know you are archiving like 60GB of crap, but you don't delete it? This is the PC Packrat's dream. The question is, how many banks must I rob for something like that eh?
And it's scary, believe me. Check this out, from the original submission.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
Let's say that again with the proper emphasis.
"Network Engines just announced two products that ruin Maxtors previous record of stashing 320 GB in 1U.
See? Two Products 320 GB in 1U. A product is the result of multiplication, right? Two (times) 320 GB in 1U = 640 GB in 1U.
Now you too understand CmdrTaco. Welcome to my nightmare.
Steven
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640 gigs would be about 39321600 hours of unused space. I could store all my blank files, and still have enough room for every empty directories!
I'm still waiting for a raid unit full of hard drives that develop enough torque to lift the entire unit off of the ground. Just think, density will matter less because none of your storage takes up floorspace!