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Want To Playtest An Xbox?

drix writes: "Microsoft is recruiting people to playtest the Xbox!" Someone over there has got to be reading! Let me have a crack at one guys! (Course, if they don't the conspiracy theorists will know why: and don't say, "Rob Doesn't Live in Seattle" cuz that's too easy. Course who am I kidding: The Microsoft conspirators are too busy saying the xbox will the crappiest system ever without ever touching one. I just see it as Microsoft's way of saying, "We're not a monopoly. Promise!" as they attempt to swallow another industry. The system may very well rock).

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  1. and this is a suprise?!? by deander2 · · Score: 5

    come on folks. microsoft is the king of user-acceptance testing. if anyone had any doubt they'd do this, they aught to check their head.

    and it's a dang good business decision too. any product should go through this procedure.

  2. what the? by hyperizer · · Score: 3

    The microsoft conspirators are to busy saying the xbox will the crappiest system ever without ever touching one.

    Are you okay Cmdr Taco? It sounds like you're having a bad day :-)

  3. play-test one NOW!!! by fluxrad · · Score: 4

    yes. this is for the masses. you, too, can get your very own X-box before M$ ships them in stores.

    to get one, simply call gateway, or dell, or one of your favorite x-box manufacturers and ask them for the X-box special. this includes:

    a 700Mhz processor
    a DVD player
    a large hard drive.
    nVidia GeForce2
    no keyboard or mouse (those are extra)
    whabam! you have yourself an x-box.

    Bill Gates:"No, really...it's not just a repackaged computer. i fucking SWEAR!!!!"


    FluX
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    1. Re:play-test one NOW!!! by dbarclay10 · · Score: 3

      You touch on a very important point here, despite your flippancy ;)

      Right now, Microsoft doesn't own the hardware. They've got the software, lock, stock, and barrel, but they don't control the hardware.

      Despite the anti-trust case, and how badly it seems to be going for them, the release of the X-Box is probably the first of many moves to start controlling hardware. Exactly how long do you think it will be before MS releases a keyboard and mouse for the X-Box? How long before they make a "special" release of Windows that runs on the X-Box?

      The X-Box is basically a PC. Get right down to it, it has an x86 processor, an IDE hard drive, an IDE DVD player, and a video card that is supported by/supports DirectX.

      Three or four generations of X-Boxes later(assuming they're wildly successful, which they probably will be), I can imagine that most MS software will require a special, MS-approved platform to run on. What platform will that be, you ask? Well, probably something that had, as an ancestor, the X-Box.

      Will it be very different? Probably not. I bet it'll still have a keyboard, it'll still have a mouse, it'll basically be a repackaged PC - but "approved".

      Now, there are good economic reasons for this. If Microsoft only needs to support the four or five different versions of the X-Box, then their life will be that much easier. There's won't be as many worries about hardware conflicts, there won't be as many worries about crappy third-party drivers(which are a massive source of Windows instability). This is probably their way out of any accusations about monopolies; a standard PC can actually be a good thing if used correctly, if it's not exploited through high pricing and exclusive developers' rights.

      I won't guess any further than what I've already said - but I *do* think that much of that will come to pass, in one form or another.

      Will I go down fighting? Damn right. Our family motto reflects largely on our attitudes.

      Will this be good for the population at large? Maybe. If the X-Box variants are cheap and work, then the concept of "access everywhere" might actually happen. Not half-assed attempts at non-standard "web terminals" around today. But if Microsoft gets a lock and exercises that power to milk its customers for all they'll stand(and MS has done this before - don't doubt it), then we'll just be, yet again, largely locked into the "MS way".

      Dave

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    2. Re:play-test one NOW!!! by cyber-vandal · · Score: 3

      Does this mean that Microsoft are going to turn into (dan dan dan) Apple?

    3. Re:play-test one NOW!!! by fluxrad · · Score: 3

      What's wrong with turning 'repackaged computers' into something else? People have been turning cheap PC clones into 'Unix Workstations' by means of Linux and *BSD for years now.

      um....what exactly is a PC clone?

      secondly. what makes a *nix any less of an OS than, say windows, or BeOS, or MacOS? a 200Mhz computer is still a computer whether you run Windows, or Be, or Linux, or OpenBSD.

      the fundamental point here is that microsoft is simply repackaging a PC and calling it a gaming console. I'm not irritated that they're getting into the gaming market. I'm irritated that they're trying to promote sales by telling the uneducated masses that this wunderbox is the next big console when it's nothing more than a mass-produced e-machine without the monitor and 3-years' worth of payments.

      oh well, i suppose it's simply another case of Microsoft taking standard tech, repackaging it, and calling it theirs. that sure seems pretty fsckin' innovative to me!


      FluX
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  4. Netscape fans left out? by PenguinX · · Score: 4

    As I live in Seattle I figured I would just see if it would work. Oddly enough the "submit" button does not work in Netscape for Linux. Perhaps Mozilla? ;-)

  5. Phony Test by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 4
    Hmmmmm, Microsoft a company notorious for looking internally for testing and Q/A, is looking outside for beta testers, "no experience nessesary". I'd be willing to bet this is more promotional than technical. I think they will bring in some kids for 15 minutes, show them the pretty lights, and let them run along home to tell all their friends.

    Even the design of the site with bright colors and flashy catchphrases (* Get FREE stuff!) If they were really looking for quality testers they would probably take a much more lowkey approach (probably contacting previous testers before making an announcement like this).

    As good as Microsoft is at software development, they are even better at promotion.

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  6. Wild guess: X-box will be an open platform by Morgaine · · Score: 5

    Everything we've heard so far about the X-box seems to indicate that it's going to be an ordinary console with everything that that entails in terms of tight control over software, severe manufacturer-imposed constraints on products, and ridiculously high licensing costs.

    I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark on the basis of Microsoft's acknowledged ability to create markets for its products, and suggest that in practice the X-box will become the exact opposite of a conventional console as described in the paragraph above. Instead, it will become an entirely open platform, in practice.

    Why do I think that this may be so? For a number of reasons:-

    First, the console market is already fairly highly subscribed if not totally saturated, so the X-box will have to be pretty special to make a large proportion of gamers reach into their pockets again. All the other popular consoles are closed platforms. A way of becoming "pretty special" is ready and waiting. [The still-to-be-launched Indrema is doing something similar, albeit with a certification hurdle imposed, but hopefully this will not be a substantive barrier.]

    Second, it just so happens that virtually all the big players in the console arena either have or will be bringing out new mega-powerful systems within the same time frame, so high technology alone may not be enough, especially since Microsoft is a latecomer to this market. A novel angle may be required to make headway.

    Third, Microsoft knows full well that the popularity of Windows stems very largely from the massive buzz that was created by several years worth of unimpeded free-for-all copying of both the O/S and its applications. The official face of Microsoft may protest about "piracy", but unofficially they must know that in reality unconstrained access is an extremely powerful popularizing mechanism, vastly cheaper yet more effective than advertising.

    These three things all point in the same direction: Microsoft will either make the platform fully open, or it will create an easy and inexpensive method for all and sundry to write and install games on the X-box, or it will turn a very blind eye to the cracking systems which will appear 2 microseconds after the machine hits the streets. Nothing is gained by restricting what can run on a platform (all the talk of controlling for "quality" is unadulterated rubbish --- people like to decide for themselves, thank you very much), but everything is gained by having thousands of products run on a console rather than merely hundreds.

    We'll see. :-)

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  7. Play testers are the 'directors' of video games by Thagg · · Score: 4
    We run a little digital film company here at Hammerhead Productions, and recently had a bunch of executives of a game company over for a tour, because they are interested in the convergence of film effects and games -- basically games machines will soon be able to do pretty seriously good pictures in real time; and they were looking to see if any of our filmmaking expertise could be useful to them. Several experience visual effects people have recently been hired by games companies; for just that reason.

    The most interesting questions from my point of view were 1) What is the most important part of game design and 2) Who is the 'director' equivalent in a game.

    We were having dinner at four separate tables, so we got four different groups of people answering the questions; but the answers were completely uniform. 1) The most important part of a game is the 'game-play', the way that the button presses influence the way the game works. Next is visuals, last is 'story'. 2) The 'director', as it were, are the game testers; the people who sit there and play the game all day, every day, as it is developed; to determine how it works and feels. We were quite surprised, and asked the question a few different ways; but the answer was always the same.

    Now, Microsoft is not writing the games (are they?) but are building the boxes, so testers would have a different role there. Still, it's a very important one.

    thad

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  8. Standardized Linux gaming/kiosk platform? by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 4

    As wacky as this might sound, the XBox might turn out to be a great opportunity for Linux gaming. Since all XBoxes will contain the same hardware, it's a cinch to put together a bootable Linux CD that has everything pre-configured for the known devices in the box. Load that puppy up with NVidia (or whatever) drivers, the sound drivers for whatever audio is in there, and lots of pre-configured settings, and you've got a Linux-based skeleton upon which games could be written.

    Since I'm not a gamer, I have other ideas. If I didn't strongly object to giving $$$ to the evil empire, I'd pick one of these things up, load Linux on it, and use it as a home multimedia terminal connected both to my LAN and to the television and stereo. View web pages on the TV, play MP3's off the server, pick up streaming audio, control the lights in the house via X-10 ... geek heaven!

    And just think -- with XFree86 running on it, it'd be a real X-Box!
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  9. Re:God feating goats by evilned · · Score: 3

    Two small problem with your arguement. The dreamcast bears a logo that states Compatible with WinCE, not powered by. Secondly WinCE games for the dreamcast are extremely few and far between. WinCE on dreamcast has a reputation for slow loading times, and wasting alot of resources.

    The only game I can think of that runs WinCE on the dreamcast is some vegas gambling game. Think Shenmue, Jet Grind Radio, or NFL2K1 run WinCE underneath? Nope. Now, you are right, bsod's on dreamcasts are few and far between. But it has little to do with Microsoft. Prolly 95% of the games for it have nothing to do with WinCE, and wont load it. I'm all for giving Microsoft credit when they deserve it, but the dreamcast's success has little to do with them.

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  10. Clearing up the playtest requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    Just to clear up some things about playtesting for Microsoft like the requirement of living in the seattle "area" and the free stuff. Pretty much you just have to live with-in driving distance of Seattle. My brother and I play tested Crimson Skies for them and you just have to make an appointment with them once they've called you to set it up then drive up there to play the stuff. Its not like a Beta test where they send out the CDs, you go in so they can poke and prod you while you play the game. As for the Free stuff you get to pick an item off of a list. When we went it was all computer games. Hope that clears up any misconceptions.