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Linux on the Playstation 2
A source (who asked to remain anonymous, but is reliable) claims to
have seen a Linux Port to the Playstation 2. He also saw a PS2 running
X and KDE on the machine, running on the MIPS processor w/ 32
Megs of RAM. Unfortunately the information that is available is all written in Japanese. It would be sweet if Sony would make a free image available
so people could boot Linux. If not, maybe someone else is up to the task? My PS2 is currently in Toledo (after taking what seemed like an eternity in Memphis). Damn fedex: I need to play Star Wars Starfighter and DOA2! If I boot Linux, can I count it as a business
expense?
I couldn't resist this...
:)
From the translation (Japanese to English) comes the following phrase:
"...with also tomorrow you try the Linux for the PS2 it can put out..."
Wow linux on the ps2 and it puts out?! Sign me up baby
In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
Since console makers traditionally lose money on the console itself to position it in as many homes as possible, and then make money off the licensing fees they get from game designers, it's (almost) always a good deal to hack consoles. You get a very, very cheap mp3 station/vcd player/whatever. That's why I can't wait for the Xbox, and somebody hacking it. A 733Mhz processor with an NV20 chip for under $300? Count me in! I won't buy any games, but as soon as somebody runs linux on that damned thing, it's gonna rock!
OK, basically what it says is someone on the pslinux mailing list named "Ogochan" (who's almost certainly Ogoshi Masami, the head of the Japan Linux Association, spoke with SCE's president and was told that if SCE decided to distribute Linux for the PS2, they could do it tomorrow (i.e., immediately - so it's definitely running).
One thing that bothers me is that Sony is distributing the Linux-based development environment only to licensed developers (which is not a problem in itself, as long as they give the developers the source - have they?), but none of the developers have re-distributed the source themselves, which would seem to indicate that Sony has placed legal restrictions on them - a definite breach of the GPL.
> My PS2 is currently in Toledo (after taking what seemed like an enternity in Memphis). Damn fedex
It may not be in Memphis. Some FedEx employee is probably stranded on a island with it. (think Tom Hanks)
maybe I can run my webserver off of my PS2.... That will save me the cost of my server...except that the my PS2 cost more than my server. Ah, shit.
Sorry to say this to all, but if you buy a Playstation your buying it for games not for PC use to run anything other than games.
Sounds like a nice concept to be able to use Playstation as a cheap alternative to a PC, but this is more of a novelty as opposed to late breaking news of some sort. So lets trump up a scenario for
Along come the techies with some new over the counter remedy for Timmy to be able to use his Playstation for something other than games. Does Timmy go out and get this new over the counter remedy? NO! Timmy continues playing GAMES.
With a bombarding of what Linux or BSD will now run on popping up left and right, factorize the completeness of the story with true life experience, do you think one of the distros such as Redhat, or Slackware, will start coding installment ports taking a gamble on the notion that it can be done? How big of a market is it in reality? Just because it may make our mouths salivate at the thought, doesn't mean it will live to see the light of day.
American Concentration Camps?!?! you be the judge.
All your bases are belong to us too.
An emotion engine to render a damn console, that as to be the worst waste of hardware ever
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Now instead of buying a game, existing games that run on linux can be recompiled to run on ps2. Distribute the game as a bootable iso. Linux boots and loads the game. The developers don't pay sony for a licence which means that we can get cheep high quality games. Wins all round. JM
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Signature motion in order to have releasing
- Aim 10,000 people -
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Fuck 'im up, Tim! His views are invalid! -Pirate Corp$
It has usb, and some games already support usb keyboard and mouse like Unreal Tournment, so if a game can work with why couldn't linux. Plus the PS2 is not a Konami product.
Sony loses money or breaks even on the hardware sold, and makes money on the games. It's in their best interest to lock you in to playing games on the hardware, so official support of this is very very unlikely.
While also unlikely, it'd be a better bet that Microsoft would officially support XBox emulation on normal PC's (that have the hardware requirements) because they'd still be making the profit on the games.
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Wow, you got it right! So many people stick that unnecessary B A in there. True, it works both ways, but you only need one (for Contra and LifeForce, at least).
Sony included a version of BASIC to evade that tax; They didn't port Linux.
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Uh, senor Taco, don't get those games. Star Wars Starfighter is like a bad TIE Fighter clone from the early 90s, and DOA2 has nothing interesting (unless you like bouncing computer-rendered breasts).
Instead, get SSX, which continues to rock even though it's a first-generation game. Also, pick up a few classic Playstation games for $20-30. Final Fantasy IX runs like a dream on the new system with the texture smoothing turned on.
For that matter, also pick up a Dreamcast at a rock bottom $100. There's a ton of great games out there like Sonic Adventure, NFL2K1 and Jet Grind Radio - innovative stuff. Also, a pickup a copy of Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 while you're at it. It's highly underrated. And Deus Ex.
Ah, the joys of getting cheap used games at eBay. :)
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"Sony did developed the play station on linux."
Acutally, the PS2 development box runs Linux. That is about all.
XFree runs on linux on one or two Indy GFX options. The Indy uses a MIPS r4k or r5k processor.
Xfree also runs on DECStations running linux or NetBSD. Most DECstations use an R3000 processor, although R2k and R4k machines also exist. An fairly normal R3k derivative is what powers the PS1. The PS2 is powered by one fairly normal (36mhz) R3k, and 2 R3ks on steroids (running at nearly 300mhz).
Really, XFree will run on almost any 32bit CPU. The real problem is does it support the video hardware. Both Decstations and some SGIs run linux, but only a small number of the possible video cards are supported with either.
I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me.
Or, in the reported words of Saddam Hussein, all your PS2 are belong to us.
You missed the obvious one -- a TiVo.
I've posted a basic translation here and there's a few others available in the directory.
In the most part specialized computer appliances
such as ebooks, email machines, pdas, game baoxes, etc fail
because people keep on wanting to add full OS
functionality to them. So putting Linux-lite or
Window-lite on these is the way to go.
MicroSoft knows this well.
There was a slashdot article a few months ago that said that linux was ported to the playstation to avoid the UK's sales tax which says games consoles are taxed, but computers are not.
Official GOD FAQ.
Samus?
:-)
I'd like to start a rumor here and now: Samus Aran is none other than Lara Croft's older sister
ObKarmaWhoring:
Thing about Linux on PS2 -- it's probably the best target yet for a project like this. Think about it: with USB instead of a proprietary controller bus, the PS2 suddenly gets an easy way to add a hard drive. Admittedly it's not Firewire speed (and forget booting off of it), but it seems to me that when you get right down to it by putting USB in their hardware Sony has pretty much blown the hack possibilities wide open...
/Brian
lest you forget: the PS2 has firewire built in as well ;-)
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"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
Since the PS2 doesn't have a built in keyboard, modem, or ethernet, I will tell you the instructions for enterring the Linux source into it.
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start
Shhh! You heard it here first!
That's exactly the point of doing it. What more reason do you need? And mega kudos to IBM for the wristwatch thing!
Not much of a hacker, are you?
Even worse, look at the trainslation Gist-in-Time does...this makes Zero Wing seem comprehensible.
http://translate.copernic.com:8090/?AlisUI=frames_ ex/gen_toolbar&AlisSourceLang=ja&AlisTargetLang=en &AlisUILang=en&AlisTargetURI=http%3A//www.peanuts. gr.jp/pslinux/beginnings.html
All your Linux are belong to Sony.
Sony dont want to sell the device!!!
:)
PS2's cost them money - games and development licenses make them money
See the connection
You'll get the same answer I used in the "Dreamcast running Linux" thread, namely you can theoretically use Linux as a means of developing and running your own games.
Much like the argument people were making about targetting Windows and doing a minimal effort X-box port (yes, I'm aware it does require some effort and that supposedly MS will demand that the X-box version has added stuff), you could theoretically do the same with Linux, Dreamcast, and Playstation 2.
Anyone wanna place bets on how long until someone manages to get Tux Racer up and running on the PS2? It may be a ways off, but it'd still be a neat goal.
The only downside is that I'd (presumably) have to go through the trouble of mod-chipping my PS2. I'm not sure I want to invalidate the warranty just yet.
Ogo-chan: "PS2 games aren't interesting. I've got a PS2, but I don't play anything but PS games [on it]."
SCE dept. head: "Well, then you should make your own games. Please, feel free to make some."
Ogo-chan: "Well, yes, I'd like to make my own, but the development stuff is really expensive, so it'd be nice if Linux came out for it soon."
SCE dept. head: "A PS2 version of Linux could be released tomorrow if we wanted to, but since there wouldn't be any profit made from it for the company, we'd need some other motivation. If lots of users told us,'Release it soon!' we wouldn't not think about it... My address is written on my business card, so please send any mail etc. [there]."
Umm... following one of those cryptic(!) led me to an e-mail address -
majordomo@media-wing.com?Body=subscribe ps-linux
Maybe it's a mailing list? How about mailing that dude/bot/whatever?!
"...Fear the people who fear your computer"
Now, I don't mean a nice big PC monitor with a TV tuner (no, that's the home office / bedroom TV solution), rather, an easy way to run an MP3 jukebox and web browser from the couch in the living room, with a minimum of hardware, and an unobtrusive computing device (i.e. a small console like the DC or PS2).
Ed
I read a little bit Japanese and Kanji...
I think the article basically say that
they got a quote from the chairman from SCE
saying "some" linux porting on PS2 is being done internally in SCE. Then they basically point
you to another link that has a signing compagin
that wishes SCE to release the port.
http://www.peanuts.gr.jp/pslinux/
If you WANT to sign it, goto the link,
click on the first sumbit button (that
goto the signing page)
On the signing page:
First Edit box is your Name, then the listbox
is Japan's states (I think).
Town, City, then your emailaddess & comment.
Anyone remember the old Net Yaroze project for the Playstation? (PSone) It was a way for hobbyists to write playstation games. For about $500, Sony provided you with a black console system (basically the same as the regular systems only it did not verify CD authenticity) and a bunch of C libraries for making system calls. I believe they even gave you a compiler, though it kind of sucked and you were better off buying Codewarrior for that aspect.
Well, we if get linux running on the PS2, and the whole thing is open sourced, then we'll have graphics and sound libraries put together in no time at all. Then anyone interested in writing games for the platform can do so. Just load the kernel and then have linux start your app right away. It probably wouldn't run as fast as some of the dedicated software (the kernel would probably eat a little bit of extra time here and there), but it would get the job done in most cases.
Just a thought.
I personally think everything should run Linux. To that end - i resolve to purchase no more home entertainment devices or kitchen appliances that don't run linux. I want to be able to ask my toaster how the weather is in toledo and let my blender download a bananna shake recipie from .
/root of my HDA to the tip of my /home/smatthew/pron directory. But I don't need it everywhere. Just in my bedroom, living room, kitchen, car, and workplace. ;-}
;-} Sweet!!!
And i'll use my Linux TV to switch between showing me my PS2, Dreamcast, Palm - All of course running linux.
Don't get me wrong, I love linux. From the
But seriously - If i had money for a PS2 I would love to run Linux on it.
mmmm - a beowulf cluster of PS2s and Dreamcasts
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