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Update On Efforts To Block .us Giveaway

Froomkin writes: "ICANNWatch carries an update on efforts to block the .us giveaway, which include letters to the US Dept. of Commerce from Senators, from Rep. Markey, and from the US-ACM Public Policy Committee." The update also mentions this LA Times editorial drawing attention to the move.

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  1. R.us domain to be very popular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    R.us domain to be very popular: goats.r.us , pron.r.us

  2. Re:Working with what's out there by unitron · · Score: 2
    "...his actions are motivated by his own twisted Jesse sense of what's right, not by the latest opinion poll..."

    Here in North Carolina we sometimes say the same thing :-)

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  3. Can we do it like area codes? by unitron · · Score: 2
    If you want to call somebody in the same area code as yourself (here in the US), you only have to dial the 3 number exchange prefix and the 4 numbers that follow (don't know what they're called).

    Maybe we could have "dot u s" at the end of all "stateside" sites, but only make it necessary to use it if outside the US, letting us go on deluding ourselves and making it more difficult for "foreigners" at the same time. :-)

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  4. Good point! by nathanm · · Score: 2

    Many states have their own debt. I also live in MN, and thankfully, our public debt is almost all bond issues to spread the cost of infrastructure over its useful lifetime. According to the MN state treasurer, we have about $2.5 billion in outstanding bond payments.

  5. Not even close! by nathanm · · Score: 3
    The USA's yearly budget dwarves even the national debt.
    I don't know where you got this info, because it's way off.

    The national debt, as of July 20, 2001 is:
    $5,723,280,631,657.09 ($5.723 trillion)

    Total federal government spending for FY 2001 is:
    $1,856 billion ($1.856 trillion)

    In other words, the national debt is over 3 times the yearly budget of the federal budget. Maybe you should check your facts before posting lies.
  6. .ca changed last November by Pope · · Score: 2
    And, well, I'm proof of it. :)

    It took a couple of years to pass, but CIRA changed the rules for .ca domains last year, and even allowed existing .ca registrants one or two months to re-register to make sure they maintained their domains instead of having them "expire" and be snapped up by squatters.

    All relevant info can be found here (English and French) http://www.cira.ca/

    The previous example, where you had to be federally registered or have business operation presence in 2 or more provinces made sense in a way: domains were free of charge then.

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  7. Update to the update by Froomkin · · Score: 4
    Meanwhile, we have a brief even more recent update at ICANNWatch: the Dept. of Commerce reiterates that the RFQ on .us will close this Friday at 5pm eastern. Take that, Senators!

    There's also a story over at The Boston Globe but it doesn't add much if you've been following along.

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  8. The goatsecx guy... by Craig+Davison · · Score: 2

    Should register my.an.us.

  9. OBZerowong by caffeineboy · · Score: 3

    SOMEBODY SET .US UP THE BOMB!!

    Sorry, sorry...

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  10. You know you read too much slashdot when... by quartz · · Score: 5

    You open up the LA Times editorial and read "All you dot-US are belong to us" instead of "Dot-US belongs to all of us". Damn...

  11. Re:I say let them give it away, it won't affect yo by jhunsake · · Score: 2

    Those requirements wouldn't exist anymore!

  12. Well... by 11thangel · · Score: 5

    Not that I'm opposed to having someone selling .us domains, but has anyone else here heard of this little thing called the "national debt"? Can't Uncle Sam try to count 'ol W's tax-cut with this? At least a little? Why give it away when you can sell it?

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  13. Re:This great news by Dr_Cheeks · · Score: 2
    Um, how exactly?

    I quote (from your user bio) "...I am the founder and lead developer for Algorithims Unlimited Ltd. We are based out of India..." (emphasis added by me).

    How does giving away a domain for an entirely different country stop your company from being great (as you claim)? It's not like they're giving away .com addresses. And India has it's own TLD (.in).

    I don't understand your reasoning, unless your company has some sort of bizarre business plan to sell .us, which doesn't seem all that probable (and why would a company called Algorithims Unlimited Ltd. be selling domains in the first place?). Please explain.

    Oh, BTW, that's a dreadful company name (Ltd. is short for Limited, so you've got Unlimited Limited in there), and I hope you got someone who can spell to register the company name - Algorithms only has one "i".

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  14. Good grief, it's over already by fobbman · · Score: 3

    ICANNWatch carries an update on efforts to block the .us giveaway...

    Look, the election ended months ago and Bush won. I don't like it any more than you do but do we really need to keep bringing it up?

  15. Re:History is made by those who show up by gilroy · · Score: 5
    Blockquoth the poster:
    We can bitch, we can moan, we can hang politicians by their ankles, but we can't prevent this from happening.
    We can prevent this from happening. Well, maybe not the small "this" of the .us giveaway (that seems to be on the express track to Hell) but the larger "this" of laws, courts, and politicians bought and sold by monied interests quite contrary to the public interest they are sworn to uphold...

    And part of it is the bitching and moaning. But the biggest thing we can do is the one thing most won't: Get off your lazy behinds and vote! It's a bit amusing and a bit sad to see everyone whining about how "they" are taking away our rights, yet half the people in the nation don't even bother to vote in presidential elections.

    The system stinks? The people in power don't listen? Make them listen. Better yet, run for office and become a person in power. Democracy ain't easy.

    And it sure as heck isn't served by pre-defeatism.

  16. Re:History is made by those who show up by loraksus · · Score: 2
    Dude(tte), I'd hate to mention this, but the US is not a democracy, but a Constitutional Republic.
    Nearly 100% of the power in this country lies not with it's elected leaders, but within the few members of the Supreme Court.
    I'd say oligarchy, especially if we include all the filthy rich people who contribute millions to political campaigns, but hey....
    BTW, do yourself a quick favor and look up firstly how many previous presidents were not from very wealthy families, and then go down the list and compare the percentages with those with positions such as governor, senator etc...

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  17. Nationalize IP via TLDs by Mittermeyer · · Score: 2

    I said this in the earlier .us article ( http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/07/19/05142 37&cid=158 ) and I'll say it again- we should avoid the whole Hague convention mess and force everything to go through the national TLDs. If we want to have our own squirrely IP laws, great, we can screw up our own world and leave everyone else alone. If the French or Germans are freaked out over free speech issues re: Nazis on e-Bay, we don't have to comply and they can block it at the telecoms. Simple, neat, and it leaves us out of being dragged into an international political correctness syndrome.

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  18. democracy also involves responsibility by Technodummy · · Score: 2



    If you really want a democracy, everyone does need to vote.

    Voting is a right and a responsibility, whether it's a law or not. Less than a third of Americans vote, which means two thirds of the country may object to the choice, but haven't voiced that.

    Don't like the choices? hand in a blank or void ballot (writing reasons for not choosing either candidate usually makes a ballot void in most countries). This way, all voters are counted, and all blank or invalid votes are counted as such, displaying that people are willing to vote, just not for those options.

  19. global address... by Technodummy · · Score: 2


    personally I think it's unlikely that the US will give non-us extensions to the global community... which is a pity, as .com space is often taken up by mum and dad corner shops who don't even have an area code on their phone number.

    a true global domain grouping would be great, with clear listings whether it is fully supported in your country (ThinkGeek for example does not ship certain items to Australia)

  20. Most dot-coms US anyway? by SamBond · · Score: 2

    Perhaps all .COM should become .COM.US unless they can prove they are genuinely international? You could only be promoted to .COM if your site was both multi-currency and multilingual (maybe even with a choice between Yank and English).

  21. But what about .EDU? by roozbeh · · Score: 4

    I wonder what will happen to .edu: As outlined in the RFC 1591, the TLD belongs to the global community of educational insitutes, and not only Americans:

    EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational institutions. Many Universities, colleges, schools, educational service organizations, and educational consortia have registered here. More recently a decision has been taken to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and universities. Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC, below).

    But according to this Slashdot article, the US Department of Commerce gave it away to something named EDUCAUSE, that doesn't let universities outside USA to get a .EDU.

    As a user of a .edu here in Iran, that really aches...

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  22. Re:I'm just impressed this is getting press by baptiste · · Score: 2
    I am impressed this is being covered by a major newspaper.

    It is impressive. BUt 'older' media outlets like newspapers seem to be doing a better job covering the Internet and obscure issues than heavy internet properties like CNN & MSNBC - their stuff is too whitewashed.

    I've been impressed at the technology coverage of papers like the LA Times and the NY TImes. Sure, they may be a few days late sometimes, but they still give our issues a wider audience.

  23. The first of a million kisses (for business) by Voltaire99 · · Score: 2

    The .us giveaway belongs to the same pillaging outlook that characterizes this administration's view of its duty to the public trust.

    Is there money in the .us domain? Give it to business.

    Are the public airwaves ripe for commercialization? Give licenses away for a pittance (while thwarting the licensing of small bandwidth community stations that would compete with corporate behemoths).

    Is there oil in the Alaskan wilderness? Allow business to pump it, though the quantity is slight and the environmental damage great.

    Is the health of school students compromised by the unsafe standards of the US beef industry? Sure, but relax regulations, anyway.

    This isn't government of, by, or for the people, but a plain old fashioned free-for-all by the base and greedy, conducted under the nose of a public too bored and uninformed to care.

  24. No Surprise by nanojath · · Score: 5
    Why should anyone be surprised by this after the massive free giveaway of the digital television spectrum to a handful of media superconglomerates? It's faurly obvious that anyone with a few bucks to throw around can secure valuable public resources without the expense and hassle of paying the American public a dime for the privilege (see, for example, http://www.radiodiversity.com/hiwayrobbery.html for more details on the digital TV scam).

    I know there's a lot of support for the "free market" on Slashdot, but somehow I don't think this is what y'all mean. When are people going to stop bickering over meaningless partisan differences and start realizing that most politicians on both sides of the fence are interested in their own political careers and accumulation of power above all else, and are more than willing to sell our interests out for relatively paltry sums? For crying out load, vote for someone that takes a credible stand on campaign finance reform! (Hint: if the phrase "one of the costliest campaigns in history" or something similar shows up nest to their name on a regular basis, then their stand is not credible).

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  25. .US extensions would make the best pr0n sites by MxTxL · · Score: 2

    Imagine being the owner of screw.us or suck.us and I can think of about a hundred more. Then you could sell a whole variety of pr0n subdomains to the highest bidder, I could imagine getting big bucks for the sub come.suck.us and teens.suck.us.... As a matter of fact the screw.us name would be great for political sites as well. How about government.screw.us?

  26. I'm just impressed this is getting press by pgpckt · · Score: 3

    I am impressed this is being covered by a major newspaper. I wouldn't think they would pick up on this. Its also nice to see that there are some senators and congressman that took notice and said "Hold on just a moment." I bet the commerce secretary didn't expect there to be this much negative feedback.

    Its always nice to see the folks in Washington working hard to make sure that things are handled correctly.

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  27. Re:There will be no .us giveaway by Hilary+Rosen · · Score: 2

    Quick - we must trademark "are.belong.to" so we get first dibs on "are.belong.to.us".

    I have dibs on "all.your.ninth.level.domains.are.belong.to.us"
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  28. History will be the judge by Zen+Mastuh · · Score: 4

    The .us giveaway doesn't differ much from the American tradition of irrevocably giving blocks of broadcast frequences to commercial entities. The average American is screwed in the process, and the rich get richer. With their extra money, they can buy more politicians^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H donate more money to political campaigns and continue to dictate our national policy

    We can bitch, we can moan, we can hang politicians by their ankles, but we can't prevent this from happening. History, however, will judge this as it really is.

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  29. There will be no .us giveaway by Angel+of+Mirana · · Score: 5

    Because Verisign is in bed with ICANN over it, or so the CNN article seems to hint.

    It's really sad. All we US citizens get slammed for buying up .coms .nets and .orgs. I wouldn't mind being able to get the .us of my choice; just as I can get a .com or another TLD.

    I don't really see that happening, though. The suits in DC like the control they can wield over the .us TLD and they are notrious for NOT handing over their power to the people.

    It's sad, really. Europe has a much better approach to country TLDs. But; in the States, Verisign will probably get the deal for the .us sales and the big corporations will get their pick; leaving the rest of us with the carrion.

    But...imagine the RIAA's new URL:

    www.all.your.music.are.belong.to.us

    Or DC's new website:

    www.all.your.freedoms.are.belong.to.us

    Phoenix

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