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The Jet Powered Beer Cooler

kzadot writes: "A bit of good old kiwi ingenuity, you can make a jet engine in your own home, and keep your beers cool as a side effect. And not a single piece of Number 8 wire in sight. Full instructions included."

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  1. How much thrust does this generate? by wowbagger · · Score: 4

    My question is, how much thrust does his jet produce? Could it be used to power, say, a hovercraft made from junk? I'd like to see something like this on [Junkyard|Scrapyard] Wars - ten hours to build a working jet powered (thing).

    Also, could he attach a generator to the spindle of the turbo and make electric power?

    Given the rate of consumption of propane he'd have to get to create the degree of cooling, I'd guestimate that he could produce better than 10kW of power from this thing. That's enough to run your house.

    1. Re:How much thrust does this generate? by JoshuaLawrence · · Score: 3

      The guy who made this is a mate of mine, and I saw the engine working yesterday.

      > My question is, how much thrust does his jet produce?

      Not much. It uses a lot of propane, and makes a lot of hot air and noise, but is pretty inefficient from a thrust point of view.

      Of course, he is working on a kerosene afterburner.

      > Also, could he attach a generator to the spindle of the turbo and make electric power?

      No. The way to do it is to put another turbine into the exhaust stream. This turbine can be used to generate power or spin a wheel. It's unhealthy to attach things to shafts rotating at 100K RPM, as I think someone else on this thread mentioned. Another home-jet-builder north of here (Auckland, New Zealand) apparently used an extra turbine in this way to power a go-kart.

      When I saw it running, it got up to 100K RPM and 500 degrees Celsius (~900 F) but I saw no ice on the gas bottle. It wasn't running very long, the gaffer tape holding the air hose onto the combustion chamber was getting too hot and was about to give way.

      I didn't stand too close. :)

  2. Re:Methane Powered Refrigerator by wowbagger · · Score: 5

    This is actually very common in Recreational Vehicle circles, as RVs often carry propane but don't have electricity.

    The refrigeration unit uses ammonia as the working fluid, rather than dichloro-difluro-methane (R-12). This is done because of the properties of ammonia.

    In a normal refrigerator, the working fluid is compressed from a gas into a liquid. In doing so, the liquid gives up its latent heat of vaporization (the energy it takes to convert a liquid to a gas), and becomes much hotter as a result. The hot liquid is then run through a set of coils to transfer the heat to the environment.

    The liquid then is fed through a throttle ( a small orifice) to reduce the pressure below the boiling point of the liquid. The liquid then evaporates, drawing the latent heat of vaporization from the environment (the inside of the fridge). The gas then runs back to the compressor and the cycle repeats.

    In an ammonia fridge, rather than using a compressor pump driven by electricity, a heat source is used, and a mix of ammonia, water and hydrogen gas is used to move the heat around. A good explaination is at howstuffworks: http://www.howstuffworks.com/refrigerator5.htm

    Basically, they use the fact that ammonia will dissolve in water to drive the ammonia around the cycle. That's why they cannot use R-12: it doesn't dissolve in water very well.

  3. Re:Alternatives to jet engine beer cooling by dougmc · · Score: 3
    However, the instant you contain the liquid Nitrogen, like in a fist, you increase the pressure of the gas trying to escape. The pressure builds up enough to give you a very bad freezer burn.
    Actually, there's no way you could contain the pressure in something like a fist. A fist is hardly air-tight.

    What really happens is you'll get frostbite. Very quickly. A few drops of liquid nitrogen on your skin won't hurt -- as it boils, the gaseous nitrogen will act as an insulator, but more of it can freeze your skin in seconds -- and that's exactly what frostbite is.

    I grew up in Alaska, and they used to show this `frostbite film' every year, probably in the hopes of scaring you into being careful (it was quite gross what frostbite can do.) Frostbite induced by a little bit of liquid nitrogen isn't likely to be anywhere near as serious (because you usually only freeze a little bit of skin, not the entire extremity), but it's still best avoided.

  4. Helocopters are better by elgonzzo · · Score: 3

    While I was a chopper machine in the army, a friend told me about a very neat trick some units use to cool down the beer for battalion/squadron parties. They attach 2.75" unguided rocket stores on the external mounting points. Cobras and Apaches can carry 4 stores each. Now, 2.75" also happens to be about the diameter of a beer can, and each store can hold 19 rockets. Because the tubes are about 5' long, a single store can hold a lot of beer.

    So they load the stores up, take the chopper up to 10,000 ft, fly around for 10-20 minutes and then come back down. This gets the beer nice and cold.

    "Get as drunk as you can be in the Arrrrrmy!"

    "If there were no eternal consciousness in a man, if at the bottom of everything there were only a wild ferment, a power that twisting in dark passions produced everything great or inconsequential; if an unfathomable, insatiable emptiness lay hid beneath everything, what would life be but despair?"
    Kierkegaard, Fear and Trembling

  5. Alternatives to jet engine beer cooling by proxima · · Score: 3

    I have to admit, this hack to cool a bunch of beers is truly amusing. However, the best part about the article was the author's witty humor:

    "If I ever do get a car it will be something to tinker with and be small, old and British. Just like my mum. "

    "A closer inspection of the can shows how it quite clearly states 'SERVE EXTRA COLD'. It is interesting to note that here is one of few times a bloke will actually read the instructions for anything. Ever. "

    and so on.

    Although a jet engine is a fast and furious way to cool beer, I present a few practical and impractical alternatives to accomplish the same task.

    1.) Duh. Buy a mini-refridgerator/freezer. Set it to the coldest setting possible. If no power is available in a given shed (though this was his garage), run a nice long extension cord from the house. This should get below 5 degrees Celcius. This solution is costly, slow, and gets no points for creativity. Moving along...

    2. Dry ice. Dry ice is much colder than freezing temperature, but properly insulated it could serve to create a long-lasting ice box from which to cool the beer. Care must be taken not to bring the beer to freezing point, as that would obviously ruin it and damage the cans. Obtaining more dry ice is annoying, but so is obtaining more propane.

    3.) My memory of chemical reactions fails me, but I do recall a variety of endothermic (takes in heat from surroundings) reactions that could be employed to draw away heat from the cans of beer. However, most reactions I recall would require vast quantities in order to cool to the desired temperature. Nonetheless, put in a well-insulated device, with some sort of quantitative control over chemical reaction, this could work. What would be even cooler (no pun intended) is to have an automatic temperature monitor that would mix more chemicals when the temperature got above a certain point. Yes, essentially a thermostat for an endothermic reaction.

    Any other ideas?

    --
    "The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent." --Carl Sagan
    1. Re:Alternatives to jet engine beer cooling by Zeio · · Score: 4

      One of the best things about being a B.S. in chemistry was fooling around with chemicals, and Liquid Nitrogen Ice Cream rules...

      This was excerpted from a popular liquid N2 site:

      ===

      If you are anything like me, then you love ice cream. There is nothing like making your own, but the problem is, it just takes too long to freeze and some things just don't like to freeze.
      A while ago Scientific American [April, 1994 pgs. 66-71] had an article call Cooking with Chemistry or something along those lines. One of the recipes was one for using Liquid Nitrogen to make Ice Cream.
      Great!

      Now as you all know, Nitrogen is about 78% of the volume of the atmosphere and has a boiling temperature of one hundred and ninety five point eight degrees below zero Celsius.
      In plain simple English, it's cold.
      The price is about two cents to $2.75 per 100 cubic feet depending on purity, which isn't anything important here, so get the two cent stuff. You will also probably need a container, which you can rent/borrow from the people that you are buying the Nitrogen from. Don't use a cooler, as it will not survive the trip.

      Simple rules for handling Liquid Nitrogen:
      I could say DO NOT LET IT TOUCH SKIN but someone will be a bone head and do it anyway. The truth of the matter is that the human body is so hot to the Liquid Nitrogen that it will boil in your hand with out any harm to you. However, the instant you contain the liquid Nitrogen, like in a fist, you increase the pressure of the gas trying to escape. The pressure builds up enough to give you a very bad freezer burn. Enough to need medical attention, so take my word for it and don't.

      Ingredients needed to make simple Vanilla Liquid Nitrogen Ice Cream:

      -----

      Milk
      Heavy Cream (Half and Half will do nicely)
      Real Vanilla not that fake junk that's sold!
      Sugar
      Liquid Nitrogen

      Equipment needed:

      ----

      Stainless Steel mixing bowl
      Wooden mixing spoon
      gloves
      a big sink or a level place out side.

      ---

      First figure out how much you want to make. Multiply the total amount of ice cream by five to get the amount of Liquid Nitrogen needed to freeze the ice cream. A gallon of ice cream will thus need five gallons of Liquid Nitrogen.
      Mix the Milk, Cream, Vanilla and sugar in the mixing bowl. The ratios should be twice as much cream as milk and about 8 tbsp of vanilla for every gallon of liquid. Sugar should be about 1 cup dry measure per gallon. If that's too sweet then half it. I do not know how artificial sweeteners react to the cold, so I don't recommend the usage of them.
      Mix the ingredients until the sugar has dissolved into the milk and cream. Add in any fixings (candy, coffee, other flavors). Move to the sink if you haven't already. Pour in the Liquid Nitrogen slowly and mix with the wooden spoon until completely frozen, which should be about 10 minutes. Wear the gloves, because it's going to be cold.
      For a better freeze, prepare the icecream in a pressure cooker, and after adding the Liquid Nitrogen, clamp shut for 5 minutes.

      Eat!

      If you want, you can add cookie dough or just about anything else to the mixture. Don't worry, it will freeze (trust me, it has no choice but too!).
      Other flavors can be made by replacing or adding with the Vanilla with your choice of:
      Coffee (hot, strong and fresh is the best) - with a few whole beans - yum!
      Cookie dough - either homemade or store bought will do.
      Candy - A Milky Way is good in bits, as is Heath Bar.
      Liquors - Don't worry about the low freezing point, Liquid Nitrogen is much lower!

      ---

      Let me tell you, this stuff is excellent.

      --
      Legalize the constitution. Think for yourself question authority.
  6. Which came first? by doorbot.com · · Score: 4

    So, when these things finally hit the market, why would you buy it?

    1. You have beer on tap (at your house of course) and need a way to cool it.
    2. You have petroleum gas on tap, and need a way to use it.
    3. You have neither on tap, but need a reason to get both (on tap).

    This new jet-engine-cooler begs the question... is this truly the man's barbeque? It cools, it charbroils, it's a jet engine!

    One small difficulty is you'd have to lash your fixins down lest they be blown into the next county.

    You could use the rotary motion of the turbine to perform some useful function as well. Perhaps providing a mobile platform for the jetberque?

  7. So very cool - but really - why? by baptiste · · Score: 3
    Like a previous poster noted - this is a CLASSIC /. post that has nothing to do with technology politics and intrigue!

    Of course - whats scary is someone operating a jet engine while drinking beer - shouldn't there be some sorta law? (KIDDING!)

    I loved his tongue in cheek description of the project. But I'd really like to know, er, what caused him to want to do this? I mean it is really cool and I can imagine when he has parties, all the male folk and even some of the ladies flock to the shed to see his toy.

    I also laughed to see the intake right behind the control panel - hmm the possibilities - pointy haird boss with tie visists "Here, sir, just stand at the control panel here and hit this red button. " Problem solved!

  8. Uh Oh! by JBowz15 · · Score: 5

    A jet poowered beer cooler....

    Doesn't this sound like a Darwin Award waiting to happen?

    Finally, the Rock has come back to Slashdot.