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Mozilla 0.9.3 Released

nexex writes: "Shamelessly ripped from Mozilla.org, "Talkback data shows that recent 0.9.2 branch builds are more stable than Netscape 4.78 and we expect even better results for 0.9.3. Now is the time to try Mozilla again if you've been waiting for stability to improve." Translation: Mozilla is better than ever. Get your copy here."

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  1. coolfeatures by BroadbandBradley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    text sizing:
    CTRL+
    Or
    CTRL-
    to enlarge text or make it smaller. great feature
    Keywords:
    edit bookmarks, pick a bookmark and pick properties, add a keyword. say 'sd' for slashdot.org. then type in the location box (ctrl L gets you focused on the location box) type sd and hit enter, you'll be whisked away to slashdot.org.
    SideBar Tabs:
    A great way to have quick acces to web tools like mapquest or an online dictionary. see the sidebar directory at:http://dmoz.org/Netscape/Sidebar/

  2. Re:Java stability? by Dionysus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't know about other platforms, but on Linux, you can just download the jdk (jre might work too). It contains a plugin directory. Inside the plugin/i386 directory, there are two directories: ns4 and ns600. Each contain a java plugin. Just make a link to the ns600 plugin to your mozilla/plugins directory. Works for me.

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  3. Why not use the same installer? by generic-man · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I happen to like the download-on-demand installer, where you pick the components you want to download and install. The odd thing about this is that it's completely tied to the version available when you click "download installer." The Mozilla installer for build 2000073108 looks and works exactly like the one for build 2000073109, but each one has the version number pre-written in the .ini file. Can't there be an option "download latest version" instead? That way, instead of downloading and untar'ing a new installer every day, I can just run it every day and let the installer I already have do the work.

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  4. Re:It is just me by baptiste · · Score: 3, Informative
    Is it just me or are they never going to get to the Mozilla 1.0 stage?

    Its just you ;)

    Seriously, they have a detailed Roadmap outlining their plans. Their dates have slipped some but they've been holding pretty well to teh schedule. Currently plans call for Mozilla to go 1.0 with what WOULD be 0.9.5 if it is deemed ready . They are just using a differnet scheme for release, vs the beta to release candidate to release. Its all in teh naming. So if all goes well (and it sure seem to be finally) I'd bet they'll make v1.0 in the beginning of the fourth quarter. But even if they don't make it till 0.9.7 which is December timeframe it'll still be a huge accomplishment.

  5. What's up with the crappy installer? by Malc · · Score: 5, Informative

    On days like this when the server is busy, this network installer crap is useless. Where's the 9MB installer download, eh? I've had to run setup 15 times because it keeps timing out on the download of individual packages. I've basically run the installer once or more for each individual package. The setup program doesn't remember my settings from the last run, so I have to go through modifying every screen of the wizard every time. And after all that, I've still got to manage the downloaded files which aren't where I want them so that I can install on other machines easily.

  6. Word of caution to existing Mozilla users... by Caduceus1 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Don't dump 0.9.3 over a 0.9.2 Windows installation - things get pretty funky because something isn't compatible.

    I got around it by blowing away the existing Mozilla folder and then unpacking the new one fresh.

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    1. Re:Word of caution to existing Mozilla users... by baptiste · · Score: 5, Informative
      I got around it by blowing away the existing Mozilla folder and then unpacking the new one fresh

      Which is exactly what you are supposed to do - there are disclaimers all over Mozilla.org asking you NOT to install over old version during hte beta due to teh problems that arise

  7. Re:Interesting bug by alanjstr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bugzilla 44787 has been marked as a Won't Fix. It was originally entered as a bug (as in Bugzilla) and has been established as a minimum requirement. "The linux builds are built on RedHat 6.0 systems which use glibc 2.1. Therefore, the minimum required version of glibc is 2.1. Builds have been known to work (occassionally) when built under glibc 2.0.7 but they aren't officially built nor supported (due to known race problems with the 2.0 dynamic loader). "

  8. Re:What about the *mailer*? by Delirium+Tremens · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Call me crazy, but I have been using Mozilla as my main Mailer since last December. Apart from a few quirks, I am extremely pleased with my choice. So far, Mozilla has been succesfully managing my every day life, with 20-30 outgoing emails, 150-200 incoming emails and some mail folders containing hundreds and thousands of messages.
    But the most awesome feature is definitely Mozilla's ability to use multiple profiles, either IMAP, POP or local folders. When you used to be stuck in one single profile with NS4.xx, this is definitely a blast!
    I used to run the Mozilla nightlies, but 2 months ago I decided to stick to the Netscape 6.1 branch because the Netscape 6.1 mailer comes with a spell check. Very comfortable feature, especially when English is not your mother tongue or when your religion forbids you to use the MSOffice suite.
    The only two things that I treally miss in the Mozilla/Netscape6.1 mailer are:
    • Encryption support for PGP, GPG, SMIME, or whatever ... I don't care which one. I'll use the first that makes it into the build (yeah, I would definitely switch back to the nightlies if they had encryption support)
    • I want to be able to embed remote URL document in my mails as a reference, not as a mime-encoded object. Especially images. That's Bug 59535 for those who want to know, or vote!
  9. No spellchecking (yet) by abischof · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mozilla doesn't currently have spellchecking (it used to be that you could install Netscape 6's spellchecking into Mozilla, but that no longer works). So, if you're interested in spellchecking, please vote for bug 56301 (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).

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  10. Re:Okay, nice, but how does it relate to... by GauteL · · Score: 3, Informative
    Pros:
    • Much better rendering engine
    • More fault tolerant
    • Better support for java and other plugins
    • More stable
    • Multi-platform
    • Requires fewer external libraries
    • Supports both Qt and Gtk+

    Cons:
    • A bit slower
    • Uses more memory (some of it is a drawback on "Requires fewer external libraries"
    • Doesn't integrate that well with a desktop (void if you do not use KDE)
    • Does not have GUI-counterpart for some of the advanced configuration options


    The slower-bit is offset if you use Galeon as a frontend. Which buys you a lot of speed, and somewhat better desktop-integration, on the expense of portability and library-count.

    Both Mozilla and Konqueror are good browsers, but Mozilla is more technologically advanced, and the portability issue means a lot for it's acceptance and possible market-share.
  11. Re:Interesting bug by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Why is [requiring glibc 2.1+] a bug?

    Because they use Bugzilla to track all issues with Mozilla. Since people complain daily about the symptoms that turn out to be glibc problems, it's best to include the info in the bug report and just point people there.

    That's also the place to debate the issue.

    There are plenty of "bugs" that aren't, including feature-requests, user error, bad HTML/websites (e.g. the TLS mess), et cetera.

  12. No Bank Access!! Argh!! by Preylude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The only real thing stopping me from using Mozilla as a primary browser is its lack of support for secure connections. It simply won't connect to some bank and credit card sites.

    I'll give it some credit. It now works (more or less) with my my two most frequently accessed accounts. But still, one of my primary bank accounts won't let me log in

    What annoyed me most was reading the comments on the related bugs. Developers saying that ABC Webserver doesn't support the exact SSL specification here or there. That's life! Slight incompatibilities exist all over the internet. You have to work around them. Emailing the webmaster and having them upgrade their software is NOT the bug fix. Patch, kludge and work around the problem, please! Then, I can start using Mozilla instead of dumbass NS 4.78746372...

    1. Re:No Bank Access!! Argh!! by BZ · · Score: 3, Informative
      Try turning off TLS under Preferences > Privacy and Security > SSL

      If that worked, then the "slight incomnpatibility" in question is that the reply from the web server is broken in such a way that it looks like a man-in-the-middle attack on the connection negotiation.... Now consider whether you want your browser to keep connecting under those conditions. :)

  13. Interesting bug by wiredog · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mozilla requires glibc 2.1 or later. (Bug 44787)

    The question is, why is this called a bug? It seems that requiring glibc 2.1 is fairly common in other programs. Library dependencies are normal, as later versions have APIs that earlier ones lacked, and expected. (Also, annoying if you are not warned, but here we are)

    So, why is a dependency a bug?

  14. Dig by Majix · · Score: 4, Redundant

    I like it. It doesn't crash. It renders pages quickly and correctly. In Windows I can use the "-turbo" command line switch to get IE like startup speed (I hope this makes it to the Linux builds too). But the biggest improvement over 0.9.2 is in my opinion that a window that is done loading doesn't steal my focus any longer! Previously you couldn't really have a lot of browser windows open because they constantly kept stealing the focus from each other.

    I also like that you can open a link in a new window with the middle button. It's always worked like that on Linux, but it now also works in Windows. It's definitely ready for daily use IMHO.

  15. More stable than Netscape 4.78? by b1t+r0t · · Score: 5, Funny
    Talkback data shows that recent 0.9.2 branch builds are more stable than Netscape 4.78

    That isn't saying much. It is my experience that nitroglycerin is more stable than any version of Netscape 4.xx.

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  16. Re:Mozilla (linux) impersonating as ie by abischof · · Score: 3, Informative

    That would be bug 46029 ("[RFE] Multiple user_agent prefs like in Opera."). Feel free to vote for the bug if that issue is important to you.

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