RedHat 7.2 Beta: Roswell

LinuxNews.pl writes: "Few days ago RedHat uploaded new Beta release of their distro - Roswell. If you want to find out more about it just go to the LinuxNews.pl" And I won't even make a snide comment about how I haven't run Red Hat in 2 years!

Comments

Re:Can't wait...

[bero-rh]

If you don't like the compiler, take a look at http://www.bero.org/gcc296.html and then fix your applications.

There are 2 reasons why we're still using 2.96 even though 3.0 has been released.

The first is binary compatibility - gcc 3.0 is not binary compatible with anything else, and we don't break binary compatibility between minor releases.

The second is that 2.96 is way more stable than the 3.0 release (though the current 3.0 branch in CVS works somewhat better). If you've ever tried compiling KDE with gcc 3.0, you'll know what I mean.

I don't think you can come up with any program that uses correct code and doesn't work with gcc 2.96 - if you can, report it so we can fix it. If you can't, don't complain.

The final will include KDE 2.2 and a proper compiler (namely 2.96 ;) ).

Snidey lies...

[Anonymous Coward]

And I won't even make a snide comment about how I haven't run Red Hat in 2 years!

Yeah apart from on the Slashdot SQL server...

Holy smokes!

[Denial of Service]

The hypocrisy is flying around this place like shit from howler monkeys today. You're all bashing Taco for his outwardly elitist commentary when the exact same thing flows from most of you on a daily basis. Read virtually any thread around here with as must objectivity as you can muster and it's difficult to miss. God forbid anyone suggest that non-OSS software is better for a certain task or ask a seemingly obvious question.

Personally, I congratulate Rob for having the balls to at least be blunt about it instead of the thinly veiled digs routinely employed by the vast majority of you.

Now, whip out the -1, Troll or Offtopic marking for this as fast as possible and sit back satisfied that another dissenting opinion has been eliminated. It's your duty, isn't it?

Hmm...

[itp]

I guess I won't even make a snide comment about whan an asshole Rob is, then.

Re:Another update?

[bero-rh]

Argh, you caught us! Of course, 7.2 is actually still 1.0, just with a higher version number so people with fat net connections can brag about having more current stuff.

RedHat denies!

[Bender Unit 22]

RedHat now denies that they have released another beta of their distro - Roswell. They say: "In reality it was just another one of our disaster recovery backups that we place offsite every month. There is no evidence that points to that this should have been a distro".
Meanwhile RedHat believers rush to FTP sites, trying to gather evidence that it indeed was a real distro that had entered these servers.

Another coverup? Only time will tell.

Re:Can't wait...

[Jeremy Erwin]

gcc 2.96x isnt even an official release. gcc-3.0 is. gcc-3.01 will follow in August. Why RedHat continues to support "gcc-2.96x" is beyond me.

Here is a list of gcc-3.0 improvements over gcc-2.95.3. As for myself, I really appreciate the libstdc++-3.0 support.

I am less than enthusiatic about the

New warnings for C code that may have undefined semantics because of violations of sequence point rules in the C standard (such as a = a++;, a[n] = b[n++]; and a[i++] = i;), included in -Wall.

OMS/LiVid code, in particular, trips this up.

And that was what kind of comment?

[SimplyCosmic]

And I won't even make a snide comment about how I haven't run Red Hat in 2 years!

Gee ... That certainly looks to be a snide comment to me. Kind of like the guy who insults your entire family, and then thinks a "just kidding" at the end makes up for it.

Normally I try to ignore the biased comments that creep up in the stories here, but the snippy little comments, regardless of the topic, have become a bit much lately.

There is no Roswell!

[Alien54]

They even say so in plain english, on this "East European" news site.

;-)

I love the style of the writing of the press release:

Trust no one!

It has come to our attention that rumors are floating regardingthe appearance of a Red Hat Linux beta release, named ROSWELL. We would like to reassure you that there is nothing of the sort. No other object has been misidentified as a Red Hat Linux beta release more often than Rawhide. Rawhide was updated just recently. Reporters probably thought they saw something on an FTP site other than Rawhide, but we assure you, it was Rawhide.

Reports cite that this supposed ROSWELL beta included 4 CDs of software, with such things as a 2.4.6 Linux kernel, XFree86 4.1.0, KDE 2.2pre, GNOME 1.4, and journaling file system support, and included support for both x86 and ia64.

Were any such Red Hat Linux beta release to exist, it would not be recommended for use on mission-critical hardware, and any casualties due to data loss, mutation, swamp gas, radiation, or strange glowing lights with such a release would be scoffed at. Any problems or bugs with such a release would most likely be the effect of passing weather balloons.

These problems would be reported at:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

However, there is no evidence to suggest the actual presence of a ROSWELL beta release. Those who claim otherwise would best not flaunt their naivete by telling anyone that they saw anything other than Rawhide.

Etc.

Too bad we can't say the same about XP

The explanation for this

[bero-rh]

This happens to be my fault.
Or rather, it's because I didn't have the time to build the packages when the beta was current (if you've ever worked for a linux distributor, you know there are more important things to do a couple of days before a feature freeze...), and I don't think it makes much sense to build them now (now that the beta is pretty much obsolete).

That's precisely why I chose to put a recent CVS snapshot that should be pretty close to the 2.2 release in Roswell.

If you don't like it, send some of your spare time to bero@redhat.com. ;) We haven't come up with a way to work more than 24 hours a day, but I'll keep trying. ;)