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Dynamix Closed Down?

ioctl writes: "According to Planet Tribes, Dynamix is being shut down by its parent Sierra (or more appropriately, Vivendi Corp.). Story here and here. Looks like my buddy just wasted $50 on Tribes 2... =P"

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  1. Re:Info from Dyanmix Employee Pending: by The+Cat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't stay in the league unless you win the Super Bowl every year, huh?

    Pretty soon there won't be any room for new ideas at all. Its really too bad.

  2. Sad, but look at Dynamix's History by mattsking · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't like the fact that Dynamics is going out of business but if you look at Sierra's history with the company it really is no suprise. Example: Sierra buys Dynamics, the Red Baron series, (one of the first games to use 3d cards) is cancelled for lack of support and staffing is shuffled or cut. Starsiege comes out, finally breaking out of the hideous Earthsiege series. It's an average game but shows great potential. Before it hits the shelves most of the Starsiege team is rolled into the Tribes team or laid off. Let's face it, Sierra cares about Racing sims and Half-Life. I realize they have thei place but the company isn't known for innovation. fnord

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  3. Re:Why is the $50 wasted? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's 'cuz Sierra forced them to release early, so it would show on Q2 as profit, much like this mass layoff will show a nice cost-cut on Q3 books.

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  4. What about Loki? by BadBlood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't Loki still be able to update the Linux version. If the win32 port is no longer updated, couldn't this potentially be the killer game app that forces the masses to Linux? I'm guessing this all depends on what rights Loki has to the game code.

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  5. Corporate Manual On How to Alienate Your Customers by Poppa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Buy a little company that puts out great games and has a loyal following.

    2. Force them to release a game too early and spend months releasing patches to fix the problems.

    3. Fire the staff and close the company once the game comes near to a final product.

    I'll never buy another Sierra product again. And this is from a guy that bought *both* the Win32 and Linux versions of Tribes 2!

    They really have some idiots running Sierra, eh?

  6. This is really sad to see by savrinor · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When Sierra started out, it was a nothing, nobody company that made it to the top with some really awesome ideas. It was "driven by passion, not profit." Dynamix was one of the few segments of Sierra that was still respectable, in my view, and put good gaming first.

    It looks like Sierra is trying to shed itself of any remaining talent and decency. They pull this kind of crap every year, screwing over some part of their workforce. It's no wonder the company does so poorly, they shoot themselves in the foot annually. "Oh, gee, we have so few good titles, we're not making much money. Let's dump the people that make our few remaining good games, and save money! YEAH!"

  7. Seems typical of the industry to me. by Shivetya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Computer Game industry always seems to be this brutal, why should anyone in a subsidiary of Sierra actually be surprised, didn't they do just the same thing the year before, and the year before that?

    Actually, I think the first warning to any of the developers on a project is when their company is bought by another. Followed closely by their shipping of the product.

    In essence, your nothing but a contract programmer when you work on a computer game, and its probably even worse for the graphic artist and other "support" specialties.

    Not an industry for the faint at heart, all guts and no glory.

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  8. Re:Info from Dyanmix Employee Pending: by tenman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Microsoft gives thier employees bonuses when they fail to meet deadlines and thier stuff is rushed to the presses. Anybody in the software industry knows that the company (Sierra) would have...
    • set impossable deadline goals,
    • cut the staff to help insure that they wouldn't make it,
    • moved the impossable deadlines into the unrealistic area,
    • started choosing what features would get cut, and didn't listen to the developers when choosing
    • further broke the product by removing features that other objects needed
    • suprised the development team two weeks in advance of a newer, closer, deadline.
    • released the product against everyone who worked on it's will,
    • hated the customer reaction
    • fired all the developers (except two or three, just in case they can help out somewhere else)
  9. Ah, but it DOES have a dollar sign in front of it. by Svartalf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Customer loyalty is obtained in one of several ways- of which "customer satisfaction" is one of those things.

    Piss off too many customers and they tell their friends, etc. There's a bitter harvest Sierra's going to harvest at some point and Vivendi's going to pull the plug on the whole division at some point. Of course, it's nothing but business, right?

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  10. Re:This has been happening too often... by FortranDragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > How much better would things be now if Richard Garriott never sold (or had to sell) Origin to EA?

    Things wouldn't be any better. As Richard Garriott said himself, Origin wasn't big enough to survive by itself because Origin didn't have the muscle and deep pockets to grease the distribution channels well enough.

    The reason EA does so well is that its management understands the distribution channel and has the size to pay the big stores to display their games.

    (This also ignores the fact that with Ultima 6 and Ultima 7 Origin pushed itself to the financial breaking point. :sigh:)

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  11. Why is the $50 wasted? by SteveX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I spend $10 going to see a movie whose production company has been shut down, is my $10 wasted? Not unless the movie sucks.. and from what I've heard, Tribes 2 doesn't suck...

    A game is entertainment, not an investment...

  12. Re:$50 by sopwath · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Considering I usually see well over 250 servers, I doubt that T2 will go away. I hope Sierra doesn't get retarded and shut off the master servers.

    How the fuck is that a troll? Is it becasue he's disagreeing with the story or something? I don't get it.

    sopwath

  13. This has been happening too often... by DarkFencer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the past year or two, the following has happened:

    Sierra shuts down their Yosemite division, firing some great programmers, game designers, and others. This was the group (for the most part) responsible for the great Kings Quest, Quest for Glory (earlier Hero's Quest), Police Quest, and many others.

    Origin systems closes down in two phases. They went "Online Only" after Ultima IX, and those that stayed with the company were assigned to work on Ultima Online 2. Earlier this year, with the game a good deal finished, Electronic Arts stopped production on the game and fired all the employees.

    Looking Glass studios, the maker of great, revolutionary titles like Thief I and II, and Ultima Underworld I and II shuts down due to lack of funds (mostly because Eidos had to sink so much money into Ion Storm to keep Daikatana afloat).

    And now, as this story mentions, the gutting of Sierra is almost over, with Dynamix (the source of my favorite game of all time: Betrayal at Krondor and may others) being shut down.

    I really worry about where the industry is going. There are many other companies that are wholly owned by larger companies that have had the quality of their products go down hill - New World Computing (of Might and Magic fame) has been taken down that road by 3DO, not to mention others.

    How much better would things be now if Richard Garriott never sold (or had to sell) Origin to EA? The same could be said of Ken Williams selling Sierra. This list goes on and on.

    Well, I'm done rambling on about the game industry. I'll go back to browsing the game stores for real games while avoiding "Who Want's to be a Gazillionaire 12" or "The Sims 15th Expansion Pack", or whatever crap the industry makes money on.

    Incedentally my first word-processing software was Sierra's Homestar Plus for the Commodore 64. Yes, Sierra made a Wordproccessor!

  14. Deja vu... by lskovlund · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This has happened one before, when Big Bad Sierra(tm) closed down Yosemite Entertainment, the division that made Leisure Suit Larry etc. I am not surprised that this happens now - Sierra's upper management appears to be clueless. Ken Williams should never have sold the company.