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2.4.9 Kernel Released

Justin writes: "Linus is off to Finland for a week or so and released 2.4.9. " Here is the Changelog for those of you interested. Yeah, it's probably gonna be a little crowded for a bit. Please post mirrors in the comments.

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  1. Re:how many kernels realeased a year? by barneyfoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Duh. 2.0 was really stable and 2.1 was being heavily worked on. Graph 2.1 in there and you'd get probably 50 or more kernels for that year.

  2. SB Live! driver fixed by bconway · · Score: 5, Informative

    Though not a showstopper by any means, the EMU10K1 driver has been fixed from 2.4.8, and is now fully up-to-date. I've been using the drivers from opensource.creative.com since the release of the 2.4 kernel, and this is definitely a welcome change. Check it out!

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    1. Re:SB Live! driver fixed by bconway · · Score: 3, Informative

      As in: the drivers included up until 2.4.8 were over 6 months old and lacked a lot of features compared to those mainted on http://opensource.creative.com . These are now fixed in the kernel and fully up-to-date, which I consider to be a good thing.

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    2. Re:SB Live! driver fixed by da+groundhog · · Score: 3, Informative

      it should be noted to all the trolls out there, that the emu10k1 user-land tools include an assembler and loader for the cards dsp chip which means that you can not only compile/load the effects it includes (such as chorus and flanger) but you can PROGRAM YOUR OWN EFFECTS (tres cool). And of course this comes with ample documentation.

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    3. Re:SB Live! driver fixed by Azog · · Score: 5, Informative

      All of the above is true, however... the new driver may not work for everyone.

      Alan Cox, for example, tried them out and found they didn't work on some of his machines, so he didn't include the new driver in the -ac patches.

      So, it seems they work great for some people but not others. Linus decided to keep them in because the new driver is being maintained, and the old one wasn't - a buggy driver that's being worked on is better than a buggy driver that's being ignored... and the new drivers have much better support for the features of the SBLive.

      Anyway, if you upgrade and find that your sound card quits working, you have several choices - revert to your previous working version, or try Alan Cox'es patched version of the kernel (look under /people/alan on the kernel mirrors) or, if you know what you're doing, just take the relevant emu10k files from 2.4.7 or so and patch them into your tree. Alan Cox's kernels have lots and lots of other changes besides the SBLive driver, of course.

      A lot of work is being done right now on getting the VM (Virtual Memory) balanced right. It works great for a lot of people, but depending on the workload, it can start to thrash really bad and swap itself to death. (kswapd will run, taking all the CPU time and making no progress.) If you run into this problem or others, read the documentation on reporting bugs (see the /linux/REPORTING-BUGS file) and send a mail to the list. Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply, but it will be read, and it might help the developers figure out the pattern of what situations cause problems and what works well.

      (If you report bugs on the Linux Kernel Mailing list, be sure to note what kernel you're running and any non-standard changes you've made.)

      Oh, and if you are not subscribed to the list and want to be cc'ed on replies, say so at the top of your email.

      (I'm not really a kernel developer, yet, but I hack around in the code and read the list, so I know a little about what's going on.)

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  3. Re:NTFS filesystem by Azog · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a developer actively working on NTFS support now. It should be safe for read-only mode.
    Note that- write support for NTFS is a dangerous, EXPERIMENTAL feature that you have to explicitly select in the kernel configuration. Until recently, it was almost certain to destroy your disk, and it is still not recommended although rumor has it that it "mostly works now".

    If you blew up an NT partition running in the "read only" mode, send in a bug report to the mailing list. If you want to experiment with write support, send in bug reports for that too, I'm sure the developer will be interested, but don't expect a lot of sympathy if you wipe out important data.

    There's often a good reason why "EXPERIMENTAL" features are called that, even though sometimes it seems political - reiserfs, for example, is pretty safe - reported problems with it usually turn out to be hardware failures.

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  4. Re:I can't wait until XFS is standard... by Adnans · · Score: 3, Informative

    XFS is great. I have it on 2 production servers (rock solid since installation). However, for my workstation I've recently switched (back) to ReiserFS. I do a lot of large compiles and move huge amounts of code around and that exposes the ONLY weak part in XFS: unlink() time. XFS is doog slow for deleting large directory trees. I sure hope they optimize this, soon.. Other than the long rm times, it's rock solid. The ACL ioctls should be sorted out too soon, so we can have access to extended attributes (I will NOT miss you Be, Inc.)....

    -adnans

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  5. Re:I can't wait until XFS is standard... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    My only experience with ReiserFS was on an SMP machine, and it blew chunks (corrupted file system, bad data, kernel panics). I tried XFS and it worked quite well. I've not given Reiser another shot since then (haven't had time). Perhaps they've fixed this bug.

    I like the fact that growing an XFS volume to take up more space is simple, and does not require unmounting the volume (in fact, you CANNOT grow an unmounted XFS volume, you MUST mount it first).

    So, in a system with hot-swap drive bays, you can add a physical volume to the logical volume group, and just tell XFS to grow. Presto - more space.

    I also like the fact that you can move the journal over to another block device. If "you feel the need, the need for speed" you can use a 10MB SCSI battery-backed up SRAM drive for the journal, and a big RAID array for the main storage. Speed and safety in one.

  6. Re:Mirror by Roundeye · · Score: 5, Informative
    Note: always check signatures when downloading software from unknown sources.

    This kernel tarball is identical with the ones being distributed from ftp.us.kernel.org (dynamic mirrors), BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE. A trojaned kernel distributed from a private mirror could compromise any number of systems.

    Always check downloaded files from unknown sources.

    md5sum:
    ftp.us.kernel.org kernel: 8b0f6c18e9c09ca1e5d0bbbed95f7ef2
    ecliptik mirror kernel: 8b0f6c18e9c09ca1e5d0bbbed95f7ef2

    gpg sigs match, using:
    % gpg --verify linux-2.4.9.tar.gz.sign linux-2.4.9.tar.gz

    But -- DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT! CHECK THEM YOURSELF.

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  7. pcmcia-cs is broken with 2.4.9 by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Informative
    fyi - hinds' pcmcia pkg won't build completely with this kernel release (fails on wvlan_hcf.c).

    looks like some dangerous changes were made: I see errors that say macro 'min' used with only 2 args. this kinda scares me...

    as I've not had much luck with wireless support inside the kernel tree, I've taken to using hinds' pkg instead. so for those who use pcmcia, perhaps wait for the next release..

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  8. Re:Real news: glibc-2.2.4 was released today by geirt · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is the changelog for glibc-2.2.4

    Enjoy

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  9. Real news: glibc-2.2.4 was released today by geirt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget that the libc is just as important for your computers stability as the kernel. Most applications go trough the libc to access kernel services. Today glibc-2.2.4 was released, go to your local mirror (yes, that is a gnu mirror, not a kernel mirror) and do the upgrade now.

    Slashdot: News for nerds ?

    Why does the libc get so little publicity compared to the kernel ? I don't get it !

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  10. Re:how many kernels realeased a year? by cowens · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the counts by year. Only the release versions are counted because development kernels can run into the hundreds.

    1994 - 10 (1.0.0 - 1.0.9)
    1995 - 14 (1.2.0 - 1.2.13)
    1996 - 28 (2.0.0 - 2.0.27)
    1997 - 6 (2.0.28 - 2.0.33)
    1998 - 3 (2.0.34 - 2.0.36)
    1999 - 2/14 (2.0.37 - 2.0.28 & 2.2.0 - 2.2.13)
    2000 - 5 (2.2.14 - 2.2.18)
    2001 - 1/1/10 (2.0.39 & 2.2.19 & 2.4.0 - 2.4.9)

    avg number of kernels per year: 11.75
    The benefit is that you can have the latest and greatest version now instead of six months from now.