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Slashdot Prepares Switcheroo

We're planning on making the final switch from Slashdot to Banjo tonight at around 8pm my time. User preferences changed after 6:30pm will be lost. Comments won't be. Around 8pm, Slashdot will stop providing dynamic pages: only the static homepage will be visible until we we complete the transition, which will hopefully take only however long it takes for us to incrementally update all the critical data. We should see you by 9.

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  1. Changelog? by mutantcamel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so whats new/cool with banjo?

  2. Re:New Hardware Specs ? by michael · · Score: 5, Informative

    The old hardware setup is here.

    The new one is not terribly different: five beefier HTTP servers instead of six, still with the same Arrowpoint load-balancing switch; one NFS box and one beefier database machine.

    And of course, this will mark the switch to Slash 2.0.

    I'm sure there will be a story (maybe not until Monday though) which will give plenty of specs and info.

  3. We should see you by 9. by r41nm4n · · Score: 2, Funny

    We should see you by 9.

    On what day?

  4. Re:When exactly is "9"? by Mononoke · · Score: 3, Funny
    9 rebmuN

    9 rebmuN

    9 rebmuN

    9 rebmuN

    9 rebmuN

    9 rebmuN

    Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted.

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  5. Well by PovRayMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is this a 1st post or did all the comments get lost?

    Is this just my lucky day?

    1. Re:Well by TOTKChief · · Score: 3, Informative

      What's really nice about the new Slash is that FP is gone, and I guess it's replaced with the Nth comment number in the entirety of Slashdot. That should strike a blow for the noisemakers...

      Can't wait to see the race for post N million, etc.

      Hey, Taco, what about sticking a "N comments served", kinda like McDonald's, on the static front for all the noobies? Be kinda cool, and updating every 20 minutes or so shouldn't make it too much of a load on the system, no?

    2. Re:Well by GlassUser · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, unfortunately it will make for slightly more errors when determining what's redundant and what is original.

    3. Re:Well by Bluesee · · Score: 2

      Wait... if there are half a million users and 2.4 million posts...

      ...that don't seem right, now, does it?

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    4. Re:Well by TOTKChief · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I originally reported this as a bug when testing Banjo. When my bug got closed as irrelevant, I figured it out...=)

  6. Re:Isn't there some rule? by roguerez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I believe Rob mentioned a short while ago that the bulk of traffic happens during work days. The weekend is a little slower. Therefore picking the weekend makes sense, since less people suffer from possible problems during the switcheroo. I'm not sure if this is the reason for choosing friday, though.

  7. Re:How to tune a Banjo... by NonSequor · · Score: 2

    I was always told that the phrase "well-tuned banjo" was a good example of an oxymoron

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  8. Re:A new type of Karma whore by geekoid · · Score: 2

    his from someone who hides behind AC. I have no idea why it was modded up so fast, I'd guess coincedence.
    I take offence of your KW accusation.

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  9. Critical data? by Chris+Parrinello · · Score: 2, Funny

    With all of the first posts and goat sex links, can any of the data on Slashdot be really termed "critical data"?

    :)

  10. Beep... Beep... by Halo- · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I say we play "Dark Side of the Moon" till things come back, or... baring that... go out... maybe meet some members of the opposite sex. Hopefully O'Reilly makes a book about that....

  11. "my time" is when? by blair1q · · Score: 5, Funny

    And what color is the ethernet cabling in your world?

    --Blair

  12. Re:Just curious by RedX · · Score: 2

    Not that I've done any amount of research, but based on past stories, I believe that Taco is/was in Michigan (Eastern) and the server is in a data center near Boston (also Eastern). I'd say it's a safe bet that "my time" is Eastern.

  13. Re:Code base only? by J'raxis · · Score: 2

    I don't think you meant http://www.banjo.org/, did you?

  14. You can tune a banjo.. by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..but you can't tunafish

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    1. Re:You can tune a banjo.. by Glytch · · Score: 2

      Or the Beverly Hillbillies. That song's been going through my head for the past few hours.

  15. Just curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Your time" is Eastern, right? That would be 5pm here on the West Coast?

    Not that it really matters that much, just want to make sure.......

    1. Re:Just curious by geekoid · · Score: 2

      central, I think. plus it 3 hours difference from west and east coast.

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    2. Re:Just curious by jetpack · · Score: 2

      All "your time" is belong to us.

      Sorry in advance for that one :)

    3. Re:Just curious by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 2

      Don't worry, it isn't funny anyway :)

  16. timing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

    At least they have the sense to do it on a Friday night, so they have the whole weekend to screw up. Dimes to dollars says they fall back to the current version by Monday.

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    1. Re:timing by topham · · Score: 2

      Don't know about you, but my free time is mostly on the weekends. Which means thats when Ishould be using slashdot the most.

    2. Re:timing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2
      Dude, you spend your free time reading slashdot?? I don't think I've ever read slashdot if I wasn't on company time!

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
  17. banjo.org by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    news for hillbilly's, stuff thats inbred...

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    1. Re:banjo.org by SecretAsianMan · · Score: 2
      news for hillbilly's, stuff thats inbred...

      I live in Oklahoma, so I guess that I'm a hillbilly by your reasoning. What must be very embarassing to you is that I have better English skills! For instance, had I written your comment (i.e., had your comment been written in correct Engish), it would have looked like this:

      News for Hillbillies. Stuff That's Inbred.

      Note the following:
      • 1. correct spelling and pluralization of "hillbillies";
      • 2. the use of the contraction "that's", meaning "that is", instead of "thats", which at best can be viewed as a pluralization of "that", which, of course, makes no sense;
      • 3. correct capitalization, as the text is a subtitle and therefore deserves capitalization to match.

      I hope this experience has been an educational one for you. I'm just glad I could help.
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      Washington, DC: It's like Hollywood for ugly people.

    2. Re:banjo.org by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Just being from Ok, I don't think your a Hillbilly.

      I wrote the catch phrase as if it was written by a hillbilly.

      Why would you presume to know what I consider to be a hillbilly? It seem to me you were just looking for something to take offense to.

      Sorry if my english skill are too pore for your wyes, but the internet is international. Even though your from Oklahoma, I'll assum you know what that means.

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  18. Missed Opportunity by scott1853 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Why the hell didn't we get a chance to put up a poll on what would happen with the update!?

    24 hours to get it working

    48 hours to get it working

    Cowboy Neal will have to get it working

    "We should see you by 9"

    Um, 9:00 on what DAY?


    C'ya later everybody. Nice knowin ya all. Maybe we can talk again in another couple years.

  19. Re:Uhm.... by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2
    I think it's called banjo because someone was listening to the banjo playing in Travis' Sing...

    But I've been wrong before...wait...well, shoot, I just broke my streak...

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    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  20. So What? by rabtech · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have reviewed the changelogs, and I don't see many new features, and certainly none that would affect me as a standard reader/poster on slashdot.

    I'm sure the administration side has improvements, and the behind-the-scenes code is better. But I'm left asking... So What?

    If anyone can explain the real benefits from this move, let me know. And congrats to those who worked on Bender.

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  21. Code base only? by Winged+Cat · · Score: 2

    You mean just the code base, right? As in, I won't have to go to http://www.banjo.org/ from now on, and explain to my semi-geek friends who have heard of Slashdot but never kept up with it that I haven't changed to a redneck just because I now visit Banjo as often as I used to visit Slashdot, right?

  22. How to tune a Banjo... by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just in case things go awry:

    http://www.wiredweb.com/~banjoboyd/tuning.html

    'Remember that as you begin to play music with others its will become important to tune in settings that are loud. Your banjo is a cannon and you stand behind it. If you sence that you are out of tune turn away from the group and face into a corner or wall. This will allow the sound to bounce back toward you. Another easy way to tune in a loud environment is to use a battery powered digital tuners. A fiddle tuner pickup is available which will plug into the tuner input jack and clip on the bridge of your banjo. This tool allows you to tune in the most loud environment without any interference or even the need to hear precisely the string note. You simply tune according to the digital devise display. Most music stores stock these devices and will be happy to demonstrate them for you.'

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  23. Isn't there some rule? by localman · · Score: 2
    ...about launching changes on a Friday? Plan to spend all weekend with headaches, Taco.

    Heck, you'd probably be doing that anyway :)

  24. Buena Suerte by krmt · · Score: 2

    Good luck guys. Hope it all goes well. Thanks for all the great work!

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    "I may not have morals, but I have standards."

  25. When All Is Said And Done by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There'll be partying, liquor flowing, a food fight or two, an underwear on the head parade, and lots of other celebration type activities the little ones shouldn't read about.

    Then they'll try to sober up enough to switch it over without fscking it all up.

    I suggest a prize of a /. T-shirt to the first post on the "It's Up!" article when it's back up around nine...(yeah... heard that one before)

    Here, I'll help ya by writing the article!

    Well we did it, it's up and running and we only lost half of the posts, several IDs, all the settings and everyone's karma is reset to 0, but it seems to be working just fine. Have at it and let us know if there's any problems. The techs have left their pagers in greasy pizza box and are heading off into the bushes to sleep it off. See you in the morning.

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  26. New Hardware Specs ? by green+pizza · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What sort of new hardware will Slashdot (and, thus Slashcode Banjo) be running on? I would be quite intersted in the types and configurations of the servers, switches, and routers involved. It may be old-hat to sysadmins, but to me it's kinda neat!

    1. Re:New Hardware Specs ? by Telek · · Score: 2

      Oh dear oh dear... something's wrong here. I see the title as this:

      Re:New Hardware Specs ? (Score:5, Troll)

      And I go, who the fsck moderated that as a troll, and how did it get to +5?? ... So I look at the comment itself:

      Moderation Totals: Interesting=2, Informative=2, Total=4.

      Yup... Slashcode 2.0 works guys!! So far, through the main slashdot.org page, I've seen 4 or 5 "internal server errors", some wacky comment numbers, addition that doesn't add up (well, actually, knowing /. that's probably a 'planned feature') and now this...

      The magic 8 ball says: I slept with your wife

      =; .. better luck next time guys =) See you on Monday after 48hours of "personal uptime"...

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      If God gave us curiosity
    2. Re:New Hardware Specs ? by Telek · · Score: 2

      but how does 1 troll tag outweigh 2 interesting and 2 insightful tags?

      wierd

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      If God gave us curiosity
  27. Best of luck by cnkeller · · Score: 5, Funny
    until we we complete the transition, which will hopefully take only however long it takes for us to incrementally update all the critical data. We should see you by 9.

    So said mission control the Mars polar lander....

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    there are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots

  28. Tick Tock by Lothar+0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    About 50 more minutes left to change your settings to filter out posters who have nothing better to do than keep track of how long until Slashdot makes the change.

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    "Anonymous Coward" is for whistleblowers, not unpopular opinions.
  29. Does everyone get to meta-moderate on the new by blair1q · · Score: 2

    server or am I the lucky one?

    --Blair
    "Nyah-ha-haaaaah."

    1. Re:Does everyone get to meta-moderate on the new by spudnic · · Score: 2

      You have always been able to meta-moderate (well, at least since it was implemented). Apparently you had to opt in by clicking on it in preferences or somewhere (I forget). After that, the "Have you Meta Moderated Today?" line would appear magically each time you loaded the main page.

      From the comments that I've seen here (and on banjo when it went up for testing) everyone gets the meta-moderation line without opting in.

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  30. Re:very critical. by Telek · · Score: 2

    EXCELLENT... You mean things are like this BEFORE they do the switch:

    OK
    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
    Please contact the server administrator, pater@slashdot.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

    More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

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  31. Re:very critical. by Telek · · Score: 2

    and I just noticed, my comment is apparently the 2,171,131th comment for this article! Woah, talk about a lively debate!!

    by Telek (dNaO99@hSoPmAeM.com) on Saturday August 18, @03:44 (#2171131)

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  32. Oh, what fun... by Kimble · · Score: 2

    1) According to my user page, my moderation points expire 8/3/2001. I saw someone else has submitted this in SourceForge, so I'll assume it'll get fixed.

    2) "Slashdot Overload" still doesn't work properly -- comments 1-50 on page 1, 50-99 on page 2, 100-149 on page 3, etc. Do they care? Noooo!

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    Bug #106050, was updated on 2000-May-18 10:17
    Here is a current snapshot of the bug.

    Project: Slash
    Category: Comments
    Status: Closed
    Resolution: Wont Fix
    Bug Group: Slashcode
    Priority: 2
    Submitted by: eithkay
    Assigned to : cbwood
    Summary: 1-off error in "Slashdot Overload"
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    3) Is the fact that I can't see who posted a reply in nested mode a feature, or a bug? I guess that's one less join to make per comment, which is a good thing if needed, but I'd still like to have it.

    4) I'd like to have the strikethru tag allowed -- much less geeky^H^H^H^H^H^H illegible.

    5) But, other than that, it's all good (AFAIK).

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    1. Re:Oh, what fun... by Glytch · · Score: 2

      You obviously don't browse at -1, then. ;)

  33. Welcome to slashdot's new cluster by sulli · · Score: 2

    Why, is that a beowulf cluster?

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  34. MetaModeration by Silent.Bob(.And.Jay) · · Score: 2, Funny

    It has come to my attention that many users are abusing the MetaModeration privelege! Help to stamp out these trolls' ability to squelch our moderation power! Support the SMMMA - Slashdot Meta Meta Moderation Association! E-mail Hemos or Taco today!

  35. Hidden sids by sulli · · Score: 4, Interesting

    are gone. What happened?

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  36. New random quotes by HongPong · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sweet! The random quote of the day seems to have been updated. Futurama's definitely new I think. Though I bet it's just a text file they can change at will, it seems different than usual.

    For posterity: I'm not a robot like you. I don't like having disks crammed into me... unless they're Oreos, and then only in the mouth. -- Fry

    1. Re:New random quotes by jandrese · · Score: 2

      Er, the fortune at the bottom only updates once every 30 minutes or so IIRC. That fortune has been like that for ages not (perhaps forever, I can't remember how it worked in the original Slashcode).

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      I read the internet for the articles.
  37. Neato! by vslashg · · Score: 2, Informative

    You know what's really improved? The historical stuff. Pull up an article from months ago, and you'll be able to browse the comments in an intelligent manner! Very nice.

    1. Re:Neato! by krow · · Score: 3

      Thank you, that was a lot of hell to make that work :)

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    2. Re:Neato! by krow · · Score: 2

      Its a historical thing if you think about it. When slashdot was first started XML wasn't a real reality and MySQL would have flopped on the Hardware Rob had with that many comments in the DB.
      To make this work the entire schema was redone (mainly keep blobs away from other attributes).

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  38. Banjo Story by cjsnell · · Score: 2, Funny

    So this bluegrass picker goes into 7-Eleven for a few minutes and returns to parking lot, only to find his car window broken. As soon as he sees the shattered glass, his heart sinks. He had left his $3000 banjo in plain view on the passenger seat. "Oh no", he sighed. He looks through the broken window and sees his beloved banjo, still sitting on the seat. And lying next to it is...another banjo!

  39. Sweet by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 2

    Looks like were all back and up..

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  40. Comment numbers? by Kreeblah · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What happened? Did the database count all the comments in it so far, and start numbering from that point onward, or what?

  41. Annoying.. by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 2

    Well, thats just annoying. You have to have at least typed for 20 seconds before you can hit submit? Whats up with that? Some of us can type fast, ya know..

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  42. Fake Plastic Slashdot by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2
    It looks like the real thing
    It tastes like the real thing
    This fake plastic slashdot

    But I can't help the feeling
    I could blow through the ceiling
    If I could just roll back

    And it wears me out, it wears me out
    It wears me out, it wears me out

  43. Obvious Bug Remains by smagruder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When do we get the see the YEAR shown with older or searched articles??? Hmmm???

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    Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
    1. Re:Obvious Bug Remains by Cato · · Score: 2

      Absolutely - in fact, why not always show the year, it's only 4 digits. Has this been submitted as a bug yet?

    2. Re:Obvious Bug Remains by smagruder · · Score: 2

      Yes, I logged the problem, but it was closed without any rationale. It's strange when such an obvious, honking bug is dismissed.

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      Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
  44. Oh, Yes! by fm6 · · Score: 2

    Oh baby! Respond to me baby! Oh, yeah! Oh, you know how to respond, don't you baby! Oh baby, you're so Real Time! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!!

  45. Hey Michael, is a real story by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2
    Intel is not playing nice with OEM's who are thinking about using p4's with DDR enabled chipsets. I am sure this absolutely has nothing to do with the rambus investment.

  46. Re:b by jesser · · Score: 2

    I had to change the subject line of my reply before slashdot would let it through. It kept complaining about "postersubj compression". What the fuck?

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  47. The new slash it harder to use by Skapare · · Score: 2

    I would go back and follow up on my postings to see if there are any replies, and maybe make counter replies. To find mine in the thread I would click on the browser search icon to bring up a search box, enter my name, and search for posts with my name as the poster. From there I can see if there are any new replies.

    My display format preference is "light".

    Now I can't. The new design leaves out the poster name. Nothing to find. The only way I can see my name is if my post got moderated up and doesn't show as just a one liner. But people do reply to posts that don't get moderated up. Not everyone reads at level 5.

    So how about putting the names back in on the one liner when the post isn't expanded? Or at least do so for one's own posts when logged in.

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