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Hotmail Hacked

SyD writes " Apparently there is a major security hole on Hotmail that could allow crackers to read your e-mail. A hacking group known as root core discovered the hole and reported it to Microsoft. " This isn't the first time that the folks who are gonna give us a internet wide universal login system had a hole. The funny part is that I posted a story almost exactly like this like 2 years ago, and about once a week, someone emails me and says "I think my boyfriend/girlfriend is cheating on me and I really need to know the backdoor into hotmail to find out". No I'm not kidding. You can't make that stuff up.

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  1. Average person? by Chagrin · · Score: 5, Funny

    • "The average person in the street doesn't need to worry, as they would have to be specifically targeted," said Graham Cluley, an Internet security expert with antivirus firm Sophos.

    I suppose the quux is whether I'm an "average person" or not. I think I'll go stand in the street to hedge my bets.
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    I/O Error G-17: Aborting Installation

  2. The details of the hole... by kcbrown · · Score: 5, Funny

    % telnet www.hotmail.com 80
    Trying 64.4.43.7...
    Connected to 64.4.43.7.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    GET /root.exe
    What is thy bidding, my master?


    Guess they haven't gotten rid of Code Red yet! :-)

    (For the humor impaired: no, I did not actually do the telnet session.)
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  3. Microsoft's response... by ddstreet · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...is priceless:


    "However," Microsoft said, "we recognize the concerns raised in the computational infeasibility of this mechanism and are investigating ways that we can raise this bar even higher."


    Like Taco said...you just can't make this stuff up. That response is just too funny.

  4. Re:'Found it' ? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you don't tell anyone, the flaw is still there. Only, if you don't tell anyone about the flaw, only the bad guys know about it. The piece below written in 1853 by Charles Tomlinson, and is only an excerpt of the the treatise, but it shows that people recognized that 'security' through thwarting the exchange of knowledge of flaws was not really security at all, waaaay before the digital age.

    Rudimentary Treatise on the Construction of Locks



    A commercial, and in some respects a social, doubt has been started within the last year or two, whether or not it is right to discuss so openly the security or insecurity of locks. Many well-meaning persons suppose that the discussion respecting the means for baffling the supposed safety of locks offers a premium for dishonesty, by showing others how to be dishonest. This is a fallacy. Rogues are very keen in their profession, and already know much more than we can teach them respecting their several kinds of roguery. Rogues knew a good deal about lockpicking long before locksmiths discussed it among themselves, as they have lately done. If a lock -- let it have been made in whatever country, or by whatever maker -- is not so inviolable as it has hitherto been deemed to be, surely it is in the interest of honest persons to know this fact, because the dishonest are tolerably certain to be the first to apply the knowledge practically; and the spread of knowledge is necessary to give fair play to those who might suffer by ignorance. It cannot be too earnestly urged, that an acquintance with real facts will, in the end, be better for all parties.

    Some time ago, when the reading public was alarmed at being told how London milk is adulterated, timid persons deprecated the exposure, on the plea that it would give instructions in the art of adulterating milk; a vain fear -- milkmen knew all about it before, whether they practiced it or not; and the exposure only taught purchasers the necessity of a little scrutiny and caution, leaving them to obey this necessity or not, as they pleased.

    ...The unscrupulous have the command of much of this kind of knowledge without our aid; and there is moral and commercial justice in placing on their guard those who might possibly suffer therefrom. We employ these stray expressions concerning adulteration, debasement, roguery, and so forth, simply as a mode of illustrating a principle -- the advantage of publicity. In respect to lock-making, there can scarcely be such a thing as dishonesty of intention: the inventor produces a lock which he honestly thinks will posess such and such qualities; and he declares his belief to the world. If others differ from him in opinion concerning those qualities, it is open to them to say so; and the discussion, truthfully conducted, must lead to public advantage: the discussion stimulates curiosity, and curiosity stimulates invention. Nothing but a partial and limited view of the question could lead to the opinion that harm can result: if there be harm, it will be much more than counterbalanced by good.

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  5. Here's another way by Srin+Tuar · · Score: 5, Funny


    1. Log into hotmail normally.


    2. Type in this link:

    http://pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com/default.ida?XX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX%u9090%u6858
    %ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858 %u cbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u53
    1b%u53ff%u0078%u0000%u00=a HTTP/1.0

  6. So we might as well shut down Bugtraq... by ActMatrix · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This exploit information came straight from Root-Core's site and was also posted to Bugtraq. If pasting it here is potentially 'illegal' than so are 90% of Bugtraq posts.

    Yes, perhaps one unfortunate day it will be illegal to explain security vulnerabilities in depth, but until then there's little wrong in supporting open disclosure. Security through obscurity doesn't work.

    Accessories to a crime by having this post on Slashdot? Yep, you Must be a lawyer if you can come up with and rationalize arguments like that.

  7. Re:It's not quite so bad by aralin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It would take a minor miracle to guess a message number correctly.

    Actually... not... there is only 86400 seconds in a day and you need to worry about aprox first 100 messege numbers which makes it under ten million hits required to read your whole day correspondence. And the effectivity can be increased with clever algorithm so I will have most of them after first million.

    In other words, a nice perl script that will take me about 1-2 hours to write will every day fetch all your mail without even making my computer sweat. :)

    What kind of miracle is that? And shall I be proclaimed saint for performing such miracles?

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  8. Very secret information.... by thrillbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know that /. will probably get a nasty email asking them to remove this post, but I just feel the need to post this bit of information:

    NOTE: By following these directions you will be breaking the law.


    while (in_car(use *right_foot))\
    push(($pedal) to go [@REALLY_FAST]);

    I have had this information in my head for years, but felt it was time to inform the rest of you how to do it. Now I know I will be pursued by lawyers attempting to utilize the DMCA against me for revealing this information that the vehicle manufacturers did not want you to know... such is the life of a hacker...

  9. You've got mail! by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Funny

    AOL: You've got mail!
    Hotmail: You've got someone else's mail!

  10. Is it still open? by update() · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm not one of those people who starts gloating every time a Windows vulnerability appears, claiming it proves how awful Microsoft development is and how clearly inferior their products are to free alternatives. (How many holes in wu-ftpd do you need before that rings empty?)

    But to me, the most astounding betrayal of computer security ever was Microsoft's conduct during the last Hotmail breach. Not that it happened (could happen to anyone) or even that they didn't pull the plug days until days after the exploit was made public but that they kept going for hours after everyone had the URL for the backdoor.

    There was a great Salon article by a woman who heard about the breach on CNN, found the URL here and read her ex's new girlfriend's mail. I love the conclusion:

    Late Monday, Microsoft continued to downplay the Hotmail hack in a statement published by Reuters: "We're hoping that because we jumped on it so quickly no one was affected."

    Fat chance.

    I wonder if this time will be different...

  11. Re:here's the instructions how to do it by dudle · · Score: 5, Informative
    I just can't believe you quote an entire email and don't give credit to the author. That's just plain wrong.

    My guess is you are a karma whore, nothing more. Now I may be wrong, you might be the actual author. In this case, let us know.

    /. sucks. FYI, the original foundings where from

    Research by wAwAsAn4
    wAwAsAn4@root-core.com
    Web: www.root-core.com
    Email: [Digital-Vortex]@securityfocus.com

    Voila.

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  12. Ugly VB Code... yeechhh by Lizard_King · · Score: 5, Informative

    you can download the hobo4 program, written by the folks at Root Core to automate this vulnerability here. Warning about the code however:

    a) it's in VB

    b) you'll see methods like this:

    Public Sub ii(MSG As String)

    l_info.Caption = ">" & MSG

    End Sub

    are there no coding standards even among hacks?

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  13. "hacker" vs. "cracker": something to consider. by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone else think that "crackers can read your email" is something Chef from South Park would say?

    CHEF: Now, children, don't leave your computer on when you're not around! Crazy crackers can read your email!

    STAN: Holy crap!

    CARTMAN: You guys are so lame.

    - A.P.

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