Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the silicon-cakes-taste-terrible dept.
genixia noted that the BBC was the first to note that
Linux has turned 10 today. Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
Shame on you.
by
standards
·
· Score: 4, Insightful
In a way, this is kind of sad. I mean Linux is 10 years old, put together by a bunch of people who aren't all that interested in being the next Bill Gates, and it's one of the most stable and reliable OSs out there.
It really makes you think - for years, many of us were taught in school that non-capatalist approaches result in poor quality at a very high price.
But at least in this one case, it seems that just the opposite is true: after 20+ years of development, MacOS and Windows and many others, funded by billions of dollars, are just starting to get the stability of Linux. And sadly, this stability is at the expense of flexibility. And with a much higher pricetag. Linux is cheaper, faster, and better. And it isn't even a "product".
This is a testament to the abilities and the desires of those who have worked on Linux over the past decade. The corporate world - you have let us down, and look what we have done. Hold your heads in shame.
Re:September 17th?
by
Black+Parrot
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· Score: 3, Redundant
> I thought Linux's birthday was actually September 17th
Yeah, but this makes it easier for Slashdot to run the story twice.
---|SNIP
open source is an intellectual property destroyer
- Jim Allchin, Microsoft executive, Feb 2001
Software is like sex; it's better when it's free
- Linus Torvalds
Any sufficiently advanced Operating System is indistinguishable from Linux
- Jim Dennis
Linux... Find out what you've been missing
while you've been rebooting Windows NT.
- anon
See Linux run...
See Windows run... scared.
- anon
Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck
when it starts manufactoring vaccum cleaners.
- car bumper sticker
I thought that aliens would take over the world,
but I never suspected the Finns.
- garf@roadum.demon.co.uk
How do you power off this machine?
- Linus Torvalds, when upgrading linux.cs.helsinki.fi,
and after using the machine for several months.
The most important design issue...
is the fact that Linux is supposed to be fun...
- Linus Torvalds,
at the First Dutch International Symposium on Linux
Open-Source Architecture requires neither Windows nor Gates
- Malcolm Macsween
Linux - What itch do you want to scratch today?
- Ulrik Haugen
With Linux there is no Bill to pay
- Maurice Fonhof
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
- Mahatma Gandhi (possibly not talking about Linux!)
Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin
really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have
never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph.
They'd be a lot more careful about what they said if they had.
- Linus Torvalds
Linux represents a best-of-breed Unix
- Vinod Valloppillil
Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates, Apache in house.
- Usenet signature
Consumers love it
- Vinod Valloppillil
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
Most of the primary apps that people require when they
move to Linux are already available for free. This includes
web servers, POP clients, mail servers, text editors, etc
- Vinod Valloppillil
Don't throw your PC out of the window,
throw Windows out of your PC and run linux!
- Gernot Kerschbaumer
Linux and other OSS advocates are making a progressively
more credible argument that OSS software is at least as robust
- if not more - than commercial alternatives.
- Vinod Valloppillil
If the box says ``Windows 95 or better'', it should run on Linux, right?
- anon
Linux can win
- Vinod Valloppillil
---|ENDSNIP
[http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/prog/linuxbirth da y.html]
Re:What they say...
by
Mr.+Sketch
·
· Score: 3, Insightful
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
This is the only quote I don't agree with. I think the users are probably the worst thing about Linux. I'm not saying that all users are bad, but what annoys me is the people whose only response to a question is RTFM. The people who get on their high horse about how superior Linux is and how everything else sucks also annoy me, but not as much since I know they're right, these are also the people who respond to any Windows problem by telling them to reformat and install Linux.
I think the Linux user community has a ways to go and should learn to be more inclusive of non-Linux users and Linux users who are new to Linux. Once the Linux users become more helpful, then I'll agree that the Linux users are the best thing about Linux.
in a couple years Tux is gonna start growing hair in strange places and start pursuing other "penguins":-0
growth spurt...
by
option8
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
considering it's still a few years away from puberty, there's still some time before linux's real Growth Spurt.
and if you consider in ten years it's gone from exactly one user to.. um? millions? (depends on who you ask) the next few years will be prety interesting.
also if you consider the original kernel source and the current(ish) kernel source are, respectively, 71 Kb and 26,830 Kb (gzipped), what will the future bring? 2 CD distros of just the kernel?
hell, the patches are 10x larger than the original source. that's one fast growing 10 year old...
Cynicism is not always a good thing...
by
stonewolf
·
· Score: 4, Interesting
Ten years ago I saw a posting from Linus about his new operating system. I read it. I remember he was asking for people to help him develop it. I thought it sounded very very nice. I started to compose an email back to him telling him that I would devote all my spare time to the project and make it my lifes goal to support it.
And then I said, "Yeah.... right.... Some college kid is going to implement UNIX. Yeah... Walk away slowly..." And I deleted the partially composed email.
They say the only things you truely regret are the things you didn't do. Well, I KNOW that is not true, but not sending that email is something I DO regret.
I should have mentionned, "IN TERMS OF PERSONNAL COMPUTING"
Unix 30 years ago wasn't available on your personnal desktop, heck, sorry, there wasn't any personnal desktops...
A majority of personnal computers/OS that were there 20 years ago aren't here anymore... mainly because previous architechture's efficiency was due to the fact that the os was tight to it's supporting hardware, but since you mention it, macOS never ran on any other architechture than it's own, unless running thru an emulator of course:), if you want to list that way here goes:
C64 - didn't last 10 years
Coco - "
Adam - "
TRS-80 - "
TI994A:) - "
VIC20 - "
BE - agony nice if it can live as an embedded solution but that means killing it's basic root, like amiga did.
Etc... - this could go on for days.
Granted these are almost more microcontroller firmware than OSes, but that was due to the ressources available at the time, look at the mac or the amiga that came in after, it was a bit less tight, look at BE dying slowly and being converted to embedded, etc etc
10 years is a HUGE milestone in computing, stop giving sucessful examples, of COURSE SOME STUFF MANAGE TO SURVIVE thru time, sheesh.
10 years ago, you wouldn't even RAYTRACE a 10 second flick on your personnal computer because you would have died waiting.
10 years ago, multiprocessor was only a mainframe buzzword.
10 years ago, 3Dchipsets were out-of-reach technologies
10 years ago, GUI on a PC was a joke
10 years ago, some tools you take for granted today didn't EVEN exist, CD-R is a good example
10 years ago, 256 colors was luxury
10 years ago, internet wasn't something 99.99% of the people knew about
10 years ago you would get 40megs for the price you get 100gigs today.
so please, spare me the dot.com junk argument:) 10 years in computing history is a lot. Enuff said.
-- ---
Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
In a way, this is kind of sad. I mean Linux is 10 years old, put together by a bunch of people who aren't all that interested in being the next Bill Gates, and it's one of the most stable and reliable OSs out there.
It really makes you think - for years, many of us were taught in school that non-capatalist approaches result in poor quality at a very high price.
But at least in this one case, it seems that just the opposite is true: after 20+ years of development, MacOS and Windows and many others, funded by billions of dollars, are just starting to get the stability of Linux. And sadly, this stability is at the expense of flexibility. And with a much higher pricetag. Linux is cheaper, faster, and better. And it isn't even a "product".
This is a testament to the abilities and the desires of those who have worked on Linux over the past decade. The corporate world - you have let us down, and look what we have done. Hold your heads in shame.
> I thought Linux's birthday was actually September 17th
Yeah, but this makes it easier for Slashdot to run the story twice.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
---|SNIP
h da y.html]
open source is an intellectual property destroyer
- Jim Allchin, Microsoft executive, Feb 2001
Software is like sex; it's better when it's free
- Linus Torvalds
Any sufficiently advanced Operating System is indistinguishable from Linux
- Jim Dennis
Linux... Find out what you've been missing
while you've been rebooting Windows NT.
- anon
See Linux run...
See Windows run... scared.
- anon
Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck
when it starts manufactoring vaccum cleaners.
- car bumper sticker
I thought that aliens would take over the world,
but I never suspected the Finns.
- garf@roadum.demon.co.uk
How do you power off this machine?
- Linus Torvalds, when upgrading linux.cs.helsinki.fi,
and after using the machine for several months.
The most important design issue...
is the fact that Linux is supposed to be fun...
- Linus Torvalds,
at the First Dutch International Symposium on Linux
Open-Source Architecture requires neither Windows nor Gates
- Malcolm Macsween
Linux - What itch do you want to scratch today?
- Ulrik Haugen
With Linux there is no Bill to pay
- Maurice Fonhof
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
- Mahatma Gandhi (possibly not talking about Linux!)
Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin
really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have
never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph.
They'd be a lot more careful about what they said if they had.
- Linus Torvalds
Linux represents a best-of-breed Unix
- Vinod Valloppillil
Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates, Apache in house.
- Usenet signature
Consumers love it
- Vinod Valloppillil
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
Most of the primary apps that people require when they
move to Linux are already available for free. This includes
web servers, POP clients, mail servers, text editors, etc
- Vinod Valloppillil
Don't throw your PC out of the window,
throw Windows out of your PC and run linux!
- Gernot Kerschbaumer
Linux and other OSS advocates are making a progressively
more credible argument that OSS software is at least as robust
- if not more - than commercial alternatives.
- Vinod Valloppillil
If the box says ``Windows 95 or better'', it should run on Linux, right?
- anon
Linux can win
- Vinod Valloppillil
---|ENDSNIP
[http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/prog/linuxbirt
in a couple years Tux is gonna start growing hair in strange places and start pursuing other "penguins" :-0
considering it's still a few years away from puberty, there's still some time before linux's real Growth Spurt.
and if you consider in ten years it's gone from exactly one user to.. um? millions? (depends on who you ask) the next few years will be prety interesting.
also if you consider the original kernel source and the current(ish) kernel source are, respectively, 71 Kb and 26,830 Kb (gzipped), what will the future bring? 2 CD distros of just the kernel?
hell, the patches are 10x larger than the original source. that's one fast growing 10 year old...
- Entertaining Bits from the Ancient Kernel Tree
And then I said, "Yeah.... right.... Some college kid is going to implement UNIX. Yeah... Walk away slowly..." And I deleted the partially composed email.
They say the only things you truely regret are the things you didn't do. Well, I KNOW that is not true, but not sending that email is something I DO regret.
Stonewolf
I should have mentionned, "IN TERMS OF PERSONNAL COMPUTING"
:), if you want to list that way here goes:
:) - "
:) 10 years in computing history is a lot. Enuff said.
Unix 30 years ago wasn't available on your personnal desktop, heck, sorry, there wasn't any personnal desktops...
A majority of personnal computers/OS that were there 20 years ago aren't here anymore... mainly because previous architechture's efficiency was due to the fact that the os was tight to it's supporting hardware, but since you mention it, macOS never ran on any other architechture than it's own, unless running thru an emulator of course
C64 - didn't last 10 years
Coco - "
Adam - "
TRS-80 - "
TI994A
VIC20 - "
BE - agony nice if it can live as an embedded solution but that means killing it's basic root, like amiga did.
Etc... - this could go on for days.
Granted these are almost more microcontroller firmware than OSes, but that was due to the ressources available at the time, look at the mac or the amiga that came in after, it was a bit less tight, look at BE dying slowly and being converted to embedded, etc etc
10 years is a HUGE milestone in computing, stop giving sucessful examples, of COURSE SOME STUFF MANAGE TO SURVIVE thru time, sheesh.
10 years ago, you wouldn't even RAYTRACE a 10 second flick on your personnal computer because you would have died waiting.
10 years ago, multiprocessor was only a mainframe buzzword.
10 years ago, 3Dchipsets were out-of-reach technologies
10 years ago, GUI on a PC was a joke
10 years ago, some tools you take for granted today didn't EVEN exist, CD-R is a good example
10 years ago, 256 colors was luxury
10 years ago, internet wasn't something 99.99% of the people knew about
10 years ago you would get 40megs for the price you get 100gigs today.
so please, spare me the dot.com junk argument
--- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
"10 years ago, internet wasn't something 99.99% of the people knew about"
Ah, the good old days. :\