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Surfing the Web Haptically

Chakat sent us a story about Haptic feedback, a buzzword ready technology where the mouse provides tactile feedback in addition to letting you click on your porn. Seriously I would love a bit of feedback when my mouse moves over a button or a link: Sorta like how modern window managers can snap borders to edges of other windows or the screen when moving or resizing... I think that a similar tactile thing for buttons would ease mouse navigation. Or else I can just continue binding ridiculous things like Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Meta-F8 to every little action.

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  1. again.. WTF by davey23sol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For the 2nd time today.. this HAS been going on for a while. You can make your Windows desktop and website touchy feely using the logitech i-feel mouse. I have one and it actually works okay.

    Just improve it a bit and you got it...

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  2. related to the Spyware story by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This used in conjunction with the javascript crappy 2nd generation darth paperclip technology mentioned in the recent Spyware story will make for some horrific web experiences. Remember static web pages, where you chose what to read an what to do and how to react when you dragged the mouse over a link? Odds are, in five years you won't.

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  3. I-Feel mouse sucks with Carpal Tunnel, though. by Brento · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can make your Windows desktop and website touchy feely using the logitech i-feel mouse. I have one and it actually works okay.

    Got one myself, but there's a drawback: no matter what settings I put it on, it makes my wrists hurt within minutes. I've got the onset symptoms of carpal tunnel syndrome, and it's really getting better, but I had to turn off the iFeel feedback. Weird.

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  4. UNC's use of haptic interfaces by LeftHanded · · Score: 5, Interesting

    UNC has been using haptic interfaces, in conjunction with VR technology, to allow [bio]chemists the ability to 'assemble' new compounds at the atomic level. The researchers have grappling arms attached to their hands. The atomic repulsion/attraction is felt by the user, and can be used to figure out how the atoms / molecules should join together.

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  5. Not just for web... by Neumsy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It would be great to feel the mouse actully give back when you cross over something or near it. Sometimes I have trouble finding where the dang pointer is when I'm working on people's computers. Mostly when their screen is all white with the default pointer in windows. But just think about it when playing games too. Imagine taking a rocket in quake and actually having your hand pushed back a little. Or if you run into a wall and it won't let you push it anymore. Of course it could work for any game out there.

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  6. Other uses (besides pr0n) by dpilot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In David Brin's "Sundiver" they administered a test, where they studied a person's eyeball movements as they were shown a picture. The objects of focus, lingering time, and relative timing of noticing those objects in the first second or two were construed to have deep psychological meaning. The test results were used to determine who was a rightful member of society, and who bore 'watching'.

    Obviously haptics is less sophisticated than eyeball tracking, but perhaps not really. Eyeball tracking is straightforward once you have the sensor. Inferring the same type of information from mouse movements seems in some ways more sophisticated to me.

    So put on your Gibsonian hats for a moment, and imagine an Echelon/Carnivore-type backdoor *required* in haptic feedback systems. Then have data-mining of that information looking for criminal or terrorist tendancies. Unlikely? Yep. But compared to Strategic Missile Defense?

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  7. Re:Good for blind people by davey23sol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This would probably be great for reading braille webpages. Otherwise, it sounds annoying.

    Well.. maybe if the blind still used braille. It's a myth... They don't... they use books on tape and such these days, it's hardly taught anymore. Braille books are huge and cause portability and storage problems.

    It would, however, be a way for the blind to find items on the screen, but it does not and can not match text-to-speech for accessability.

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  8. An improved user interface is only 5 years away... by Compulawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This seems to rate right up there with speech recognition as one of those technologies whose advent has been only 5 years away for the past 15 years.

    That being said, it is really sad to think that there have been few really innovative and memorable improvements to the human-computer interface since the original Macintosh in 1984. (Yes I know Messr. Jobs got it from Xerox - cool your jets flamers. The Mac was the first widely available GUI system. Facts are facts.)

    Not only is it time to start thinking more seriously about using the 4 other senses besides sight to enhance the human-computer interface (no pr0n jokes, please - I'm serious) but it is also high time to realize that not everyone has the use of their eyes. This type of interface improvement can do wonders for the visually impaired computer users among us. I'd like to see more improvements of this type.

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  9. Re:logitech iFeel mouse? just a gimmick? by niall111 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought the iFeel mouse, and my roommate bought the iFeel mouseman about 6 months ago. They had just come out, and we saw them at the store, with nothing else to spend our money on that day. We both think they are the best mice we've ever used. He prefers the bigger mouse (envy?), while i prefer the smaller one. I'm not sure what you mean by saying saying it's a simple/flat mouse. The iFeel Mouseman is quite an advanced looking piece of machinery, just a little too big for me. I preferred the standard iFeel Mouse. I was moving from a standard wheel mouse, so i was totally blown away with the optical AND iFeel capabilities. It just seems to make it easier to "know" i'm on a button, because the mouse vibrates just slightly while i'm moving over a button. There is definitely a lot of potential there that still needs to be realized though. Someone mentioned that it hurt their wrist, but mine are fine after 8-10 hour diablo 2 super-fast-clicking sessions. can't say I use it much for work, since I am stuck with the plain old IBMer at work. It's really nice though, hopefully people will do more to make it useful for other applications.

  10. Re:Good for blind people by Nater · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps the tech could be developed to feel braille with a mouse.

    This is actually a great idea. How about a mouse with a dot-matrix like Braille pad, say, right between the buttons, that produces the Braille character that matches the character under the pointer. Don't forget your patents!

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  11. Re:Haptic Porn by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 3, Interesting
    No, Marriot is ran by _A_ Mormon, not the whole Mormon Church. Big difference.

    Ok, the corporation is not run by the church. It is however run by influential church members (plural, it's not just Mr. Marriot), who are generally fundamentalist and extremely conservative. This is of course, mitigated by the fact that Marriot is a publicly traded corporation accountable to shareholders. This mitigating factor probably has alot to do with why you can rent pay-per-view porn in their hotel rooms.

    My whole point was that it is possible to divorce oneself of hangups about porn when there is $$ involved. Especially when you're company is in the red. Why not explore all possible markets for your technology?

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  12. Blind leading the blind by hubbabubba · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Nothin' new here folks. Virtouch has been doing this technology for quite some time, and their product is in use in any number of places. It's meant to help blind folk visualize objects on the computer screen, and by all accounts it works quite well. Whomever suggested that this technology is useless because blind people don't do braille anymore doesn't know what they're talking about. Not a surprising phenomenon at /. of course.

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