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KDE 2.2.1 Up
Igloo Boy writes: "The most excellent KDE developers have made KDE 2.2.1 available for download. Please check the mirrors before you flood ftp.kde.org. I will now crawl back into my igloo and warm up next to my Athlon. It gets really hot from all this compiling." Or you could just call out those 3 little letters that make ya feel so good ... a-p-t. I'm installing now. Hope you guys fixed all the bugs I reported!
Why not just use MandrakeUpdate ? Simple and easy.
My sig of choice is Marlboro
In case kde.org is slashdotted, here is a list of mirrors.
u b/ kde/ (++)
. kd e.org/pub/kde (++)
u x/ kde (++)
k de (-)
k de / (++) (stable tree only)
k de / (++)
p ub /kde (+) (stable tree only)
p ub /kde (++)
e (++)
/ kd e (++)
e (++) (stable tree only)
p .k de.org/pub/kde (++)
d e (++)
l ac kware (++) (Olsztyn)
.at (Austria)
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/hci/kde (++)
.ch (Switzerland)
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/kde (++)
.cz (Czech Republic)
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.kde.org/p
"ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/kde (++)
.de (Germany)
ftp://ftp.de.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.archive.de.uu.net/pub/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.fh-dortmund.de/pub/unix/kde.mirror (++) (stable tree only)
ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/pub/mirrors/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/X11/gui/kde (++)
ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/unix/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/X11/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/X11/gui/kde (++)
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Lin
ftp://mimas.germany.net/pub/master.kde.org (+) (part only)
.pl (Poland)
ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/kde (++)
ftp://kde.fnet.com.pl/pub/kde (++) (debian only)
ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/unix/kde (++) (Gdansk)
ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/unix/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.man.olsztyn.pl/pub/linux/kde (++) (Olsztyn)
Northern Europe
.dk (Danmark)
ftp://sunsite.auc.dk/pub/X/kde (+)
ftp://ftp.dkuug.dk/pub/kde (+) (stable and part of unstable)
.fi (Finland)
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/
.se (Sweden)
ftp://ftp.dataplus.se/pub/linux/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.se.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/kde (++)
Southern Europe
.gr (Greece)
ftp://ftp.duth.gr/pub/kde (++)
.hr (Croatia)
ftp://ftp.linux.hr/pub/kde (-- stable tree only
.it (Italy)
ftp://ftp.futuretg.com/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/
ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/kde (--)
.tr (Turkey)
ftp://ftp.tr.kde.org/pub/kde (++) (stable tree only)
.yu (Yugoslavia)
ftp://ftp.kde.org.yu/mirrors/ftp.kde.org (++)
Western Europe
.be (Belgium)
ftp://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/ftp.kde.org/pub/
ftp://ftp.easynet.be/kde (++)
.es (Spain)
ftp://ftp.dit.upm.es/linux/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/
ftp://ftp.tsc.uvigo.es/pub/linux/kde (++)
.fr (France)
ftp://ftp.uvsq.fr/pub/X11/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/X11/kde (++)
.ie (Ireland)
ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
.nl (Netherlands)
ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net:/pub/kde (++)
.pt (Portugal)
ftp://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.eq.uc.pt/pub/software/unix/KDE (+)
ftp://ftp.esoterica.pt/pub/mirrors/kde (-)
.uk (United Kingdom)
ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/kde (++)
ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kde.org/
ftp://ftp.uk.kde.org/pub/kde (+)
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kd
ftp://ftp.newnet.co.uk/pub/unix/kde (++)
Eastern Europe
.bg (Bulgaria)
ftp://ftp.digsys.bg/pub/kde (++)
.ro (Romania)
ftp://ftp.lbi.ro/pub/Linux/KDE (++)
ftp://ftp.tuiasi.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub
ftp://mirror.itcnet.ro/pub/kde (++) (stable tree only)
.ru (Russia)
ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/X11/kde (++)
Asia/Australia
.au (Australia)
ftp://ftp.au.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
.cn (China)
ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com.cn/pub/mirrors/kde (+)
.hk (Hong Kong)
ftp://ftp.dll.com.hk/pub/mirrors/KDE (++)
.il (Israel)
ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/KDE/ (++) (without snapshots)
.jp (Japan)
ftp://casper.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/mirror/kde (-)
ftp://ftp.lab.kdd.co.jp/X11/kde (++)
ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/KDE (++)
ftp://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/linux/X/kd
.kr (Republic of Korea)
ftp://linux.sarang.net/mirror/desktop/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/kde (+) stable tree only
.sg (Singapore)
ftp://kde.lugs.org.sg/pub/kde.org (++)
.th (Thailand)
ftp://ftp.nectec.or.th/pub/mirrors/kde (+)
.tw (Taiwan)
ftp://ftp2.sinica.edu.tw/pub2/wmgrs/kde (++)
ftp://linux.cis.nctu.edu.tw/packages/X/wm/kde (+) stable tree only
Africa
.na (Namibia)
ftp://ftp.na.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
.za (South Africa)
ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde (++)
America and Generic
.br (Brazil)
ftp://ftp.matrix.com.br/pub/kde (++)
.cr (Costa Rica)
ftp://ftp.ucr.ac.cr/pub/Unix/linux/kde (++)
.com
ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/KDE (++) (stable tree and apps only)
.edu
ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/kde (++) (West Lafayette, IN, USA)
ftp://canine.resnet.gatech.edu/pub/kde (+) (stable tree only)
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/kde (+) (stable tree only)
ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/kde (++) (US east coast)
ftp://mirror.chpc.utah.edu/pub/kde (++)
.net
ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde (++)
ftp://ftp.archive.de.uu.net/pub/kde (+) (Germany)
ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde (++) (Ireland)
ftp://mimas.germany.net/pub/master.kde.org (-) unstable only (Germany)
.org
ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde (++) (Caldera Inc.)
ftp://ftp.vlug.org/software/kde (++) (Victoria, BC, Can)
Download (worldwide) by http
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ft
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/hci/kde (++)
http://www.cee.odu.edu/kde/ (++)
http://download.sourceforge.net/mirrors/kde (++)
http://ftp.eq.uc.pt/software/unix/KDE (+)
http://ftp.matrix.com.br/pub/kde (++)
http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/kde (++)
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/k
http://www.uwm.edu.pl/pub/linux/distributions/s
Of course, apt won't install KDE 2.2.1 right now, since unstable has some library version problem (at least on my system.) Probably something got hung in incoming and it will just clear itself up in a few days.
According to this release plan, KDE 2.2.1 will be the last stable KDE release for quite some time. Planned for release in February is KDE3.0, which will essentially be the same 2.x architecture but based on Qt 3.0. They are going to call it KDE3.0 mainly because it will break binary compatibility with 2.x. It will not be a rewrite like KDE2 was.
Of course, KDE is notorious for frequent releases, so I would imagine there will be betas / release candidates every 6 weeks or so until the final 3.0.
Happy downloading/compiling/etc!
This page tries to present as much as possible of the problem corrections that occurred in KDE between the 2.2 and 2.2.1 releases. The primary goals of the 2.2.1 release being more complete documentation and translations, the amount of code change is quite minimal - only the most critical bugs have been fixed, the rest of the development is currently being done in the branch that will lead to the KDE 3.0 release.
General- Many improvements to translations and documentation
kdelibs- arts: compile fixes, single threaded option.
- KRFCDate: fix for eastern timezones.
- KTempFile: fix for problem when fileExtension contained "X".
- Improved checking for IPv6 support.
- KPasswordEdit: slightly better in understanding non-ASCII characters.
- KXMLGUI: fix for problem with reading xml file completely.
- KFile: file preview fixes.
- KHTML: Various html & CSS fixes.
- Improved large file support.
- HTTP: Better support for https through proxy.
- HTTP: Improved handling of HTTP-cookies.
- HTTP: Fixed security problem with abuse of HTTP POST.
- Optimisations to improve KDE startup time.
- KDED: All tasks can now be disabled through config file.
- KSpell: support for Lithuanian and Belarusian.
- KSSL: OpenBSD fixes.
kdeaddons- User Agent plugin: various fixes.
- Kate Plugins: made translatable.
kdeadmin- KPackage: various fixes.
- Kwuftpd: various fixes.
kdeartwork No changes kdebase- Kate: corrected bug wrt last line.
- Desktop Wallpaper: small fixes.
- KControl: fixes for NetBSD & OpenBSD info.
- KDesktop: fix problem with icon positions on desktop.
- KDesktop: fixed sever bug where renaming a file on the desktop would destroy it.
- Kicker: mini-pager can be used to switch desktop during drag&drop.
- AudioCD: Vorbis fixes.
- IMAP: Handle folders that contain # or ? in their names correctely.
- SMB: Better error reporting.
- Thumbnail io-slave: fixes.
- klipper: changes in configuration file format.
- Konqueror: compile fixes.
- Konqueror:minor fixes.
- Konsole: many fixes.
- Konsole: added --noxft option to disable AA.
- Konsole: added "tripple click" support.
- KPersonalizer: Fixed bug that inadvertently turned "shade hover" on.
(This makes the window roll up till only the title bar is left when the
mouse is over the title bar for some time)
- ScreenSavers: show screen saver in front of the desktop instead of behind it.
- KSMServer: Provide error diagnostics for common KDE instalation problems.
- KSysGuard: various fixes.
- KWin B2 decration: fixes.
- KWin: Fix for freeze with CDE-style alt-tab.
- Netscape Plugin Scan: Don't crash on incompatible libs.
kdebindings- Many updates.
kdegames- KAtomic: Fixed various incorrect chemical names.
kdegraphics- kdvi: various fixes.
- kgv: small fixes.
- kview: various fixes.
kdemultimedia- Some compile fixes.
- noaun: small fix.
kdenetwork- KMail: various fixes.
- KNode: Fix 1e9 problem.
- KPgp: various fixes.
KDEPIM- korganizer: small fix.
- kpilot: fix syncing problems.
KDESDK- kbabel: small fix.
KDEToys- KScore: small fix.
KDEUtils- Kab: compile fix.
- Kpm: fix for Linux 2.4.
KDdevelop- kdevelop: avoid khtml crash on restoring files also with KDE-2.2.0
- kdevelop: gcc 3.0 compile fix.
- kdevelop: Fix find dialog.
- kdevelop: Various fixes.
KDoc No changes.WikiAfterDark.com It's a sex wiki, go now!
Don't forget the objprelink. I've used it to build Qt and KDE 2.2 and it has made a difference. (Although windows is still faster, UI-wise.)
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
I will now crawl back into my igloo and warm up next to my Athlon. It gets really hot from all this compiling.
...
Hope that heat sink is on nice and tight. You know what happens if it isn't
I've lost my entire debian system twice due to using the unstable version.
By upgrading to the latest unstable software on a daily basis, my system was completely trashed.
First it was a glibc problem (I don't remember what), then it was an overwritten file that caused me to not be able to log in. I had to re-install the whole system, and I've used Debian Stable ever since.
There are some ways you can make Debian Stable a lot more modern than you might think...
kde.debian.net gives you the latest KDE...
Ximian offers the latest gnome for Debian potato (stable)...
and gnulpr offers a printing system (easily set up) that can be installed through apt with debian stable.
If you don't know how to fix library problems, do nott use unstable. They will happen. However, you can fix them. That's what emergency disks are for. Boot off your emergency disk, download + install the old library or a new fixed one. Most of the time you don't even have to get that drastic though.. you can either go into single user mode or boot the kernel with init=/bin/sh before you go losing your system you might want to talk with the people in #debian irc.openprojects.net I can almost guarantee your system wasn't actually lost.. I've been dist-upgrading to unstable everyday to every other day now for the last say two years or so.
Ian
I've been a Gnome + Enlightenment man ever since the 0.14 days of E and the initial betas of Gnome. *Hated* the whole KDE 1.x line, from the looks to the "usability" to the looks.... ;-) Anyways, I followed the party line, accepted that KDE was evil because of the whole QT thing, couldn't stand the looks (did I mention that?) and even when they started shipping themes, they were all butt ugly. Well, the 2.0 release rolled around, I heard good things, wasn't interested. 2.1 came, wackos were raving about konqueror on /., I was running sid so I said "what the heck" and installed it.
:-) Dunno if it's just habit, or if it's a failing in gui fm's, but if I want to move a file, I alt-tab to konsole, then "cp ~/fi[tab] /tm[tab]ba[tab]foo.gz" and I'm done. I truly can't imagine /any/ gui that could improve on that. But as a web browser, it is more stable than IE (not that IE is stable, but it still locks up on me occasionaly, whereas with the stable releases of KDE, a crash is noteworth), pretty standards compliant, and if it supported https through an authenticating proxy, I would be 97% of the way to removing all other browsers from my machine.
Instant love.
Kmail is the client that I've always wanted for linux, and could never find. It is the *only* client that has managed to pull me away from my beloved mutt. Nice. Clean. Simple. Stable. Luckily, I don't need imap support (though it has been in the last couple versions, it's pretty beta'ish), ldap, smtp-auth, or any other "esoteric" feature. Gpg-support works quite well, it just rocks *quietly*.
Konsole was a delight. I had previously tried super-term (I think) that had the same basic idea (multiple terms in one window) but the interface was clunky enough it was unusable (at the time, haven't tried it in a couple years). shift-arrow to cycle through the terms, instant configurability (i.e., no editing Eterm config files by hand), again, just plain rocked.
Konqueror. Don't really have much to say that hasn't already been said. About the only thing I *don't* use it for is managing files
Kdevelop and kde-designer (though that's not really a KDE project) rock my world. I am a crappy coder, and fairly inexperienced in c++, but I have been able to help out the main kpilot developer simply by recreating the kpilot config screens in designer, allowing him to focus on getting usb support up to speed rather than rewriting the interface. I know there are some old-school programmers shaking their head at these new-fangled gui toys that lower the bar so much, but anything that allows a newbie like me to help out with one of his favorite OS projects and actually make a difference (the next version of kpilot that ships will be with my GUI) is nothing but a good thing.
Anyways, to make a long story short (heh), if you haven't tried KDE since the 1.x days, this is the time. You will be pleasantly suprised, and may even make the switch. If not, then happy Gnomeing, or BlackBoxing, or WindowMakering, or CommandLineCommandoing. Just have fun! The world is too great a place to worry about what other people are using for their desktop.
/me mutters something *very nasty* about Bero
If its like KDE 2.2.0, Bero built them for 7.2. If you're silly enough to be running the stable release, you should rebuild every SRPM by hand, and then install a bunch of nonstable non-KDE apps
That's REALLY REALLY DUMB and is wasting vast quantities of everyone's time on the various KDE mailing lists.
Go here to get properly built, working 2.2 packages for 7.1. With any luck our mate ben should make 2.2.1 ones real soon.
Otherwise, ask the Freshrpms guy. Need a working package for anything for a Red Hat system? This guy is nice enough to take requests too.
Linux is soooo ready for the desktop. I know this comes up every time KDE or Gnome are brought up, but it actually pains me to keep hearing ignorant arguments.
The Windows 98SE desktop (and 2000, XP, etc.) in its default installation is not office desktop ready. There are several confusing or worthless icons that need to be cleaned up, display properties to adjust, shortcuts to create, etc. I've spent at least 40 hours honing my company's system images to get them 'just right'.
I haven't used Gnome at work, and so can't comment on it. But I've set up KDE systems and it didn't take me near 40 hours to set up 'just right'.
And guess what I found out? When I put new employees/users through their mandatory IT training they picked up on KDE at least as fast as with Windows. Most of these users have had very little computer experience.
I wish I had better documented this when I started. But the users were able to use their word processor and spreadsheet, surf the web, check and send e-mail, print, use network storage and printers, and not fuck up their workstation at least as well on KDE 2.2 as on Windows 98SE.
The key here, and the key that seems to be missing in all other discussions on this topic, is that the users were trained to use KDE. I don't know of any organization with a moderately organized IT system that doesn't have a training department or IT training of some sort.
I've found it's easier to teach users Linux than Windows, so here's what all you code monkeys and sys admins need to do: teach the teachers linux. They'll see that it's easier to use and to teach and will back you up when you go to the CTO/CIO.
KDE is great. It is ready for the desktop. Get your training department's shit together and teach users how to use linux. Plan and test the desktop and start menu so your people can use it. No one can figure out how to use a computer by just sitting in front of one, they need to be taught. It's easier to teach if you're the one who's set the system up.
Honing our Windows images has dramatically cut Help Desk calls. I'm sure the Help Desk techs will be showering me with even more free lunches and drinks on them when Linux spreads throughout our organization.
Get to it!
obviously no deficiencies vs. no obvious deficiencies
I realize that this might be causing problems for some people, but there reasons are simple: timing issues.
Try maintaining 215 packages while not giving up your own devel projects, and you'll know what I mean.
If a day had 48 hours, I'd of course provide RPMs for 7.1, 7.0 and probably even 6.x - but the way things are now, I simply don't have the time to set up boxes with old systems to rebuild the packages and work around legacy compiler bugs (egcs 1.1.x is a pain).
If you want to rebuild them, feel free to do so. In the mean time, I think it's more important to have a nice KDE in the upcoming release, so that's what I'm focusing on.
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
"In response to customer demand, we have made KDE the default desktop environment in the latest release of our Turbolinux Workstation product," said Dino Brusco, VP of Marketing at Turbolinux Inc. "Our customers really appreciate the features and stability that KDE provides and we will be offering this latest version of KDE in an upcoming release of our Turbolinux Server product."
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(from: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-2.2.1.h
Well, this just just goes to show that all that hard work from the KDE camp has paid off, despite poor advertising and marketing when compared to the competition. Good job all around!
(Please browse at -1 to read this comment.)
hell, why not come up with a meta-package that will package the RPMs together into one Downloadable fiel that you know will include all the dependancies needed?
Cause then it would "be too much like Windows"(tm). May Linux developers seem to be hell-bent on avoiding even the tiniest hint of 'ease' when it comes to installing their packages (let alone using them). This is not a dig at the KDE folks per se, just my experiences in general. I've had IRC conversations trying to get answers to installation questions where the answer - on more than one occasion - was "if you just want to install something and use it - just go use Windows". The scary thing was they thought that was an insult.
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