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Where is Largest Linux Desktop Install?
jackb_guppy asks: "Talking with Managers about Linux Training for staff. One asked a simple question: 'Where is the largest installed base of Linux desktops?' My guess the question was asked prove that there is no market, and I am unable to find an answer. I am guessing the next question will be: 'Largest site using Linux to replace MS desktops?' Anyone have a suggestion?" Just for fun, if any of you have Linux Desktops deployed in your department, can you give us some numbers?
w00t!
I am not wearing pants.
Where is the largest installment of WinME?
(Not counting the producer, Microsoft -- of course).
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I'm very drunk on a Monday morning. However, slashdot's grammar is so bad that I don't think sobriety would help to understand what they mean to say.
There you have it...with 4 PC's (and one on the way), it's the world's largest installation of PC's running nothing but Linux!!
I seem to remember an announcement about Cisco switching all of their workstations to linux. Try searching slashdot... i think that's where i heard it.
Certainly a persuasive argument, i would think.
kmail is much better than balsa, imho
Hey, show me how to make a living developing drivers for linux and I'd be all over it...
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Programming is like sex... Make one mistake and support it the rest of your life.
Balsa used to eat all the memory and crash.
The easy integration of kmail with GnuPG was another bonus.
If it is good enough for "Big Blue" it is good enough for you.
Just show your manager IBM's Linux sites. For most I doubt that they will need more convincing that Linux is ready for prime time in the desktop market.
bash-2.04$
bash-2.04$yes "Don't you hate dialup connections?"| write USERNAME
The Postal service runs Win98 right now and that's 80K workstations.
Moderators! Punish this idiot!
what i need is a email client which can access microsoft exchange..Mails,Calendar,Contact..everything..
anybody can suggest one ?
till then i am stuck with windows..
Feel free to concat me with all your troubles...
We have it.
All of your installed base are belong to us!!
Katz
According to this, it have the biggest commercial linux cluster in thw world (like 10.000 servers).
The largest install will be ENIAC, once Linux/ENIAC is ported and ready...
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Damn.
It hurts to be this good.
31337 is a prime number.
That is all.
yeah, too bad this bull-shit didn't pop up in my meta mods today
From what Sister Mary told me in Catholic school the size of the screen that you're using to look at pr0n has nothing to do with why you are getting bad eyestrain.
She wasn't a fan of simian abuse.
all of them this thime....
you all suck!
I think that this is the worlds largest Linux installation ever. IBM says it is the biggest ever commercial use of Linux, it is more than 15000 IBM eServer xSeries running there, can you beat that?
:)
By the way, did you all know that google has over 6000 Linux servers, ahh me like google _alot_
2 reptiles beneath your current threshold.
X dies frequently on my system. It really depends on the version of XFree86 you use + your vid card. The error messages aren't terribly helpful to a newbie either.
"2) why would fsck cause damage to half their filesystem? while I've on occasion hit reset or powered down without a proper shutdown I have never had fsck cause any damage to my filesystem."
Ever have a newbie try to answer some of the questions fsck puts up? "Your iNode is supposed to be 64, it's 8." "What?" Windows's automatically check in the beginning of the 9x series sucked, but at least it ran pretty much automatically.
"Furthermore, if that was a concern, a journaling FS like XFS could have solved your problem."
Um, right answer to the wrong question. Journaling file systems help, but if you fsck fuck have your drive (or the media itself) forget it. Ask anyone running Windows 2000, even with journaling already turned.
"3) why were newbies having to "figure out" the desktop? what kind of training did you give them?"
For certain users, no amount of training helps. I'm still teaching people how to click and drag, and I've repeated the instructions to some of them 20 times. There is a difference in innate usability, however, between desktops like KDE and Mac OS. Mac OS X is perhaps the most intuitive GUI I've ever seen, with Windows XP following in second. I like KDE, but it's confusing to most new users.
"4) you say you kept trying several combinations. wouldn't that tend to lead to increased confusion about and disdain for the new environment? seems like picking one thing after careful evaluation and sticking with it would solve some headdache."
The average user upgrades their GUI (Windows) every 2-3 years. Things are going to change rapidally. The only problem, as it's been said many times before, is that Linux doesn't have the "advantage" of having a single, standardized desktop. At least if you know one version of Windows, you pretty much have a good idea how the next one is going to act.
"5) If your bank requires IE, maybe you should consider a new bank? I mean that may seem drastic, but if they are uncapable of supporting the system your business wants to use, I'm sure another bank would be happy to hold on to your money."
My company has $100 million worth of assets. Some companies are easily in the billions. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to move that amount of money simply because your browser doesn't work? The bank is supporting 92% of the internet browsing populations -- what more can you ask for? If you go to the vast majority of banks and ask "Does your banking portal work with Linux broswers?" they won't have a clue what you are talking about.
I find it hard to believe that a majority of these "counterpoint" arguments were even thought out.
You get to judge a moderation. When you
log in, its at the top of the home page.
From what I know, the metamoderation can
change a users chance of being a moderator.
So, when you see unjust moderations, you
can mark them as unfair and that user may
not end up moderating any more.
And your right, anything on topic should
be posted in the forums. Not just specific
to the question in the article, but something
relevant.
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
uh huh. right.
/me fidgets in paranoid disbelief. it's out there. you know it.
I hope you can come up with enough of your own U.S.-born tech workers, because I sure as hell won't be moving to the U.S. any time soon (and I'll leave Canada if it gets bad here, too. I have no loyalty to a country that fscks around its citizens.)
In my college we have a unix class that is constantly canceld because of noone showing enogh interest in the class. The class learns by first installing a minimal Red Hat install then building the system and learning in the process. In the tech office I used to have a BeOS and a Linux box (Red Hat) but none of the professors took any interest in either OS.
Its a shame that most schools/colleges today teach Microsoft software only. An example of this is if you take electrical/computer engineering you have to take ET501: intro to computers where you learn office. Then after that you take ET502: introduction to programming, where you learn microsoft visual basic. Then Take ET504 Introduction to operating systems which consists of installing MS-Dos then Windows 98. The elective ET710 course which is titled internet technologies is nothing more then a webpage making class that uses only front page. This winds up turning most less knowledgeible students into Microsoft drones, but if you think of it they wont miss out much from not having any knowledge of linux/*nix.
If we want to see more linux installs then dumbing down of the OS has to take place. Maybe its just me but the linux development community seems to think there documentation and software installation and configuration proceadures are good enough for the average user.