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VIM 6.0 is Out

LinuxNews.pl writes "It's more then a year after releasing the first 6.0 alpha. Lot's of improvements (i.e. you can edit files via FTP!) - check them out on vim.org" Of course everyone knows that vim is the best text editor in the world. Anyone who tells you differently is either wrong, lying, or criminally insane. (Or an emacs user, in which case they are wrong, lying and criminally insane).

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  1. I am lying, wrong, and criminally insane. by The+Gline · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This sentence is false.
    This sentence no verb.

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  2. Flaimbait! by adadun · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If that isn't flaimbait, then what is!?

  3. Pacifist Claptrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    By Michael Kelly
    Wednesday, September 26, 2001; Page A25

    Pacifists are not serious people, although they devoutly believe they are, and their arguments are not being taken seriously at the moment. Yet it is worth taking seriously, and in advance of need, the pacifists and their appeal.

    It is worth it, first of all, because the idea of peace is inherently attractive; and the more war there is, the more attractive the idea becomes. Second, it is worth it because the reactionary left-liberal crowd in America and in Europe has already staked out its ground here: What happened to America is America's fault, the fruits of foolish arrogance and greedy imperialism, racism, colonialism, etc., etc. From this rises an argument that the resulting war is also an exercise in arrogance and imperialism, etc., and not deserving of support. This argument will be made with greater fearlessness as the first memories of the 7,000 murdered recede. Third, it is worth it because the American foreign policy establishment has all the heart for war of a titmouse, and not one of your braver titmice. The first faint, let-us-be-reasonable bleats can even now be heard: Yes, we must do something, but is an escalation of aggression really the right thing? Mightn't it just make matters ever so much worse?

    Pacifists see themselves as obviously on the side of a higher morality, and there is a surface appeal to this notion, even for those who dismiss pacifism as hopelessly naive. The pacifists' argument is rooted entirely in this appeal: Two wrongs don't make a right; violence only begets more violence.

    There can be truth in the pacifists' claim to the moral high ground, notably in the case of a war that is waged for manifestly evil purposes. So, for instance, a German citizen who declined to fight for the Nazi cause could be seen (although not likely by his family and friends) as occupying the moral position. But in the situation where one's nation has been attacked -- a situation such as we are now in -- pacifism is, inescapably and profoundly, immoral. Indeed, in the case of this specific situation, pacifism is on the side of the murderers, and it is on the side of letting them murder again.

    In 1942 George Orwell wrote this, in Partisan Review, of Great Britain's pacifists:

    "Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me.' "

    England's pacifists howled, but Orwell's logic was implacable. The Nazis wished the British to not fight. If the British did not fight, the Nazis would conquer Britain. The British pacifists also wished the British to not fight. The British pacifists, therefore, were on the side of a Nazi victory over Britain. They were objectively pro-Fascist.

    An essentially identical logic obtains now. Organized terrorist groups have attacked America. These groups wish the Americans to not fight. The American pacifists wish the Americans to not fight. If the Americans do not fight, the terrorists will attack America again. And now we know such attacks can kill many thousands of Americans. The American pacifists, therefore, are on the side of future mass murders of Americans. They are objectively pro-terrorist.

    There is no way out of this reasoning. No honest person can pretend that the groups that attacked America will, if let alone, not attack again. Nor can any honest person say that this attack is not at least reasonably likely to kill thousands upon thousands of innocent people. To not fight in this instance is to let the attackers live to attack and murder again; to be a pacifist in this instance is to accept and, in practice, support this outcome.

    As President Bush said of nations: A war has been declared; you are either on one side or another. You are either for doing what is necessary to capture or kill

    1. Re:Pacifist Claptrap by krek · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      First, the Nazis were kind of trying to take over the world, the terrorists just want to get out from under a thumb.

      Second, Pacifism is only pacifism when you are being pacifist in support of the underdog, otherwise it is "turning a blind eye".

      I belive that the US government is in the wrong! I belive the US populace is in the wrong for "turning a blind eye".

    2. Re:Pacifist Claptrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Good post. I believe that there are very few real pacifists. According to a story in this morning's paper, most so-called pacifists are communists, socialists, and other rabid America haters. It might be wise to think of some kind of "detention" for these traitors for the duration of the war. Keeping close surveillance on these so-called "pacifists" should be mandatory.

  4. BSD is gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    IDC confirmed this week that *BSD accounts for more than 35 percent of
    all sales of poppers. This news serves to reinforce what we've known
    all along. *BSD is collapsing into complete homosexuality.

    You don't need to be a Turing to predict *BSD's future. The hand-
    wipings are on the wall; *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there
    won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying of the
    Virus. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose T-cells.
    Red pus flows like a river of semen. FreeBSD is the most endangered of
    them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBathhouse leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of
    OpenBathhouse. How many users of NetBathhouse are there? Let's
    see. The number of OpenBathhouse versus NetBathhouse posts on Usenet
    is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 =
    1400 NetBathhouse users. Bathhouse/OS posts on Usenet are about half
    of the volume of NetBathhouse posts. Therefore there are about 700
    users of Bathhouse/OS. A recent article put FreeBathhouse at about 80
    percent of the *Bathhouse market. Therefore there are
    (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBathhouse users. This is consistent with
    the number of FreeBathhouse Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBH
    went out of business and was taken over by BHI who sell another
    troubled fuck hole. Now BHI is also dead, its corpse turned over to
    another fag house.

    All major psychological tests show that *BSD has steadily declined
    in pussy-lust. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects
    are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among bi-curious
    high-school. *BSD continues to be gay. Nothing short of twenty-year-old
    Sophia Loren's gleaming, fragrant vulva could save it at this point
    in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is gay.

  5. because the 'announce' link doesn't work... by Si · · Score: 4, Offtopic

    here's the text of the latest 6.0ax announcement:

    From: Bram Moolenaar
    To: vim-announce@vim.org
    Subject: Vim version 6.0ax BETA is available
    Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:51:23 +0200
    Message-Id: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 6.0ax BETA
    Author: Bram Moolenaar et al. Announcement
    ------------ This is a BETA test version of Vim. Vim 6.0 is a huge step from Vim
    5.x. Many, many new features and improvements have been included. For
    an overview, with a few screendumps, look here: http://vim.sf.net/whyvim.php The past two weeks many bugs have been fixed. This release is to check
    if no mistakes were made. If nothing important comes up, 6.0 will be
    released in a few days. Thanks to all people who reported problems and
    helped fixing them! If you notice a problem, please report it! It would be annoying if Vim
    6.0 will be released with a problem that could have been fixed if you
    would have reported it. If you are upgrading from Vim 5.x, please look out for problems you run into.
    Vim 6.0 is mostly backwards compatible, but not 100%. Check out ":help
    version6" for known incompatibilities. If you find a problem that can be
    solved, please report it to me. Details about changes since the first beta can be found in these messages:
    6.0aqhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23413
    6.0arhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23598
    6.0ashttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23730
    6.0athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23941
    6.0auhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24252
    6.0avhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24546
    6.0awhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24841
    6.0axhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 25061 You can find the most recent patches here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased/patches What is Vim?
    ------------ Vim is an almost 100% compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi. Many new
    features have been added: Multi level undo, syntax highlighting, command line
    history, filename completion, block operations, etc. Those who don't know Vi
    can probably skip this message, unless you are prepared to learn something new
    and useful. Vim is especially recommended for editing programs. Vim runs on almost any Unix flavor, MS-DOS, MS-Windows 3.1, MS-Windows
    95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, OS/2, Atari MiNT, BeOS, VMS, RISC OS, Macintosh and
    Amiga. For more information, see http://vim.sf.net. New since version 5.8
    --------------------- The number of changes is huge. These are just the main new items: Folding - momentarily hide part of the text
    Vertically split windows - mixed with horizontal splits
    Diff mode - show and remove differences between files
    Easy Vim: click-and-type - for those who really don't like two modes
    User manual - learn to use Vim, reads like a book
    Flexible indenting - automatic indenting for any language
    Extended search patterns - more regexp power than you will need
    UTF-8 support - Unicode allows editing nearly all languages
    Multi-language support - translated messages and menus
    Plugin support - drop a script in a directory and you can use it
    Filetype plugins - an easy way to setup for editing a type of file
    File browser - browse directories, also on a terminal
    Editing files over a network - read and write a remote files directly
    command-line editing window - use any Vim command to edit an Ex command
    Debugging mode - debug your Vim functions and scripts
    Cursor in virtual position - edit tables and draw ASCII pictures
    Debugger interface - use Vim with Sun Visual Workshop
    Communication between Vims - let one Vim tell another Vim what to do
    Printing - print with syntax colors
    Quickfix extended - see error messages in a window and jump there
    Writing files improved - rename or copy to make a backup file
    Argument list - select groups of files to work on
    Restore a View - save the looks of a window and restore it later
    Color schemes - quickly switch between different color setups See this page for the details: http://vim.sf.net/htmldoc/version6.html Where to get it
    --------------- Information about which files to download for what system: http://vim.sf.net/download.php If you already know what to get, download it from here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased Or use one of the mirrors, see: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/MIRRORS Mailing lists
    ------------- For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list. There are a lot of
    tips, scripts and solutions. You can ask your Vim questions, but only if you
    subscribe. See http://www.vim.org/mail.html. An archive is kept at
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim. If you want to help developing Vim or get the latest patches, subscribe to
    the vim-dev mailing list. An archive is kept at
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev. Subject specific lists:
    Multi-byte issues: vim-multibyte http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-multibyte
    Macintosh issues: vim-mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-mac Reporting bugs
    -------------- Send them to . Please describe the problem precisely. All the
    time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is spent on
    improving Vim! Always give a reproducable example and try to find out which
    settings or other things influence the appearance of the bug. Try starting
    without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE -U NONE". Try different machines
    if possible. See ":help bugs" in Vim. Send me a patch if you can! If something needs discussing with other developers, send a message to the
    vim-dev mailing list. You need to subscribe first. Happy Vimming!

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    Why is it that many people who claim to support standards have such atrocious spelling and grammar?
  6. Re:CT's bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You can just ignore it

  7. PICO by NewbieSpaz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    OK, I _know_ this will most likely mod me down, but... I use Pico, and I like it just fine. I will admit that I have and still do use Vi from time to time, but for most things, Pico is simple and easy enough for a newbie (like me) to use. Thank you.

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  8. It's the Taco by unformed · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It being a troll is just assumed and considered common knowledge. By modding him down, you should be modded down -1: Redundant.

  9. I use Pico by BiggestPOS · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    What does that make me?

    Lameass lameness filter. GAY

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    What, me worry?
  10. Why does Cmdr Taco enjoy sucking cock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ipso posto factum

  11. *BSD is gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    IDC confirmd this week that *BSD accounts for more than 35 percent of all sales of poppers. This news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing into complete homosexuality.

    You don't need to be a Turing to predict *BSD's future. The handwipings are on the wall; *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying of the AIDS Virus. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose T-cells. Red pus flows like a river of semen. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBathhouse leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBathhouse. How many users of NetBathhouse are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBathhouse versus NetBathhouse posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBathhouse users. Bathhouse/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBathhouse posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Bathhouse/OS. A recent article put FreeBathhouse at about 80 percent of the *Bathhouse market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBathhouse users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBathhouse Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled fuck hole. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to another fag house.

    All major psychological tests show that *BSD has steadily declined in pussy-lust. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among bi-curious high-school faggots. *BSD continues to be gay. Nothing short of twenty-year-old Sophia Loren's gleaming, fragrant vulva could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is gay.

  12. How To Keep A Healthy Level Of Insanity by UM_Maverick · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ironically, I just got this as a fwd today...seems appropriate given taco's insanity comments:

    1. At lunch time, sit in your parked car with sunglasses on and point a hair dryer at passing cars. See if they slow down.
    2. Page yourself over the intercom. Don't disguise your voice.
    3. Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if they want fries with that.
    4. Put your garbage can on your desk and label it "in"
    5. Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks. Once everyone has gotten over their caffeine addictions, switch to expresso.
    6. In the memo field of all your checks, write "for sexual favors".
    7. Finish all your sentences with "in accordance with the prophecy."
    8. Don't use any punctuation marks
    9. As often as possible, skip rather than walk.
    10. Ask people what sex they are. Laugh hysterically after they answer.
    11. Specify that your drive-through order is "to go".
    12. Sing along at the opera.
    13. Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't rhyme.
    14. Put mosquito netting around your work area. Play a tape of jungle sounds all day.
    15. Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't attend their party because you're not in the mood.
    16. Have your coworkers address you by your wrestling name, Rock Hard Kim.
    17. When the money comes out the ATM, scream "I won!", I won!" "3rd time this week!!!!!"
    18. When leaving the zoo, start running towards the parking lot, yelling "run for your lives, they're loose!!"
    19. Tell your children over dinner "due to the economy, we are going to have to let one of you go."

  13. Elvis found dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    N/T

  14. Re:You're all wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    who the fuck is this Ed guy? And why wouldn't I just use a computer to edit text?

  15. Re:CmdrTaco, please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I dont need 20 seconds to ask you to shut the fuck up, keener.

  16. According to a few moderators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Your post

  17. slashdot == freshmeat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I thought slashdot was news for nerds, and freshmeat was where the announcement of build 6.345.234fsg.234.234.fge324d patch 12 of gtktroffpdfqtglic would be. Why all the release announcement today? What gives?

  18. Christ you're a fruit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I mean, Jesus, you are a complete asinine fruit!

  19. Re:Pacifist Claptrap -- Plagerism and the Author by Psion · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm not sure what the AC who posted the above was trying to prove, but that work certainly wasn't original. It's from a column in yesterday's Washington Post by a man named Michael Kelly.

    Here's a link to the original: Pacifist Claptrap

  20. Can you use "It's more THEN a year"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I guess it should be THAN instead of THEN. I'm not American or British so my English is poor, but I never saw this use for THEN anywhere else.

    Really, I'm curious.

  21. Question to moderators by greygent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Erm, I finally get a Slashdot account, and set my preferences to only read +4 comments, and I'M still deluged with useless, crap posts like this one from ByteHog.

    His post is neither funny nor informative, and yet it's +5

  22. Re:vi versus emacs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    how was this off-topic??? he mentioned that there's
    always been a flamewar concerning vi vs. emacs.
    get a fooking clue! the story is about vim and Taco
    decided to insult emacs users...

    redundant? maybe. off-topic? only if you're a retard.

    cyborg_monkey's monkey

  23. An alternative to vi(m) and (x)emacs by chrysalis · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    I've always used Jed .
    It can emulate most features of emacs, but it's a lot smaller a faster. Functions are programmed in Slang, a very simple language. Slang looks like interpreted C language with a lot of handy hooks for strings manipulation and text display.
    Also, Jed works on a lot of platforms, including all variants of Unix, VMS and Windows.

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  24. Re:+1 Veracity on the MQR standard by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Has anyone noticed that if you preface your comment with "I'll probably get modded down for this..." that you hardly ever get modded down?

    BTW, I'll probably get modded down for this, (-1, Offtopic)

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  25. Re:Real Programmers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Real Programmers dont use the internet.

  26. Re:Pacifist Claptrap -- Plagerism and the Author by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ooh, all that talk of shit eating really did scare you, didn't it?