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Man Pleads Guilty to Stealing Enigma Machine
Adler writes: "A man has pleaded guilty to to 'handling' the stolen Enigma machine in the UK. Its a short piece, but says that some vital parts of the machine are still missing. A longer BBC News piece is here." You may remember when this was first stolen, then held for ransom, then recovered -- this is the mopping up part.
Only time will tell.
Sung to the tune of the Village People song "Macho Man". Italicized parentetical statements should be spoken in between sung parts of the chorus. "Goatse" should be pronounced "goatsay" or "goatseh". Ready? Here we go.
Ev'ryone you know has seen that goatse-goatse man,
Stretchin' out his anus as wide as he can!
Prolapsin' that rectum, go man go!
Showin the whole world his giant butt hole!
Ev'rybody wants to meet the goatse-goatse man,
He's been grossin' out web surfers from Maine to Pakistan!
You can see his picture on goatse dot c-x,
But who can say they've met him in the flesh?
Hey, Hey, Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!
Goatse-goatse man!)
(Doesn't that hurt?)
I want to meet the goatse man!
Goatse-goatse man!
(What's the biggest object you ever fit in there?)
Where are you goatse man?!?!
(four-to-the-three-to-the-two-to-the-one-and...
Goatse-goatse man!
(Can I have your autograph?)
I want to meet the goatse man!
Goatse-goatse man!
(So, what are some of your other hobbies?)
WHERE ARE YOU GOATSE MAN?!?!
Unlike the Enigma Machine, this song cannot be stolen. Lyrics are freely distributable under the GPL, the Goatse Public License.
Can you imagine a World Trade Center of these?
If only he had wrapped it in a better conundrum ...
if i ever meet you i will kick your ass.
thankyou
--
i'll show you my gun. my uzi weighs a ton because i'm public enemy number one.
...he could've stolen U-571 before the audiences were forced to watch that crap.
;)
I'd have to give him a medal if he did that.
-- MarkusQ
the mets fucking suck.
they had a 5-1 lead, but since that would mean they might actually fucking win, naturally the fat tub of crap benitez comes through and gives up 8 runs in the 9th. That was close the mets almost won!
Seriously they fucking try to lose.
As the US government now demands that a backdoor be put into this World War II relic ... it WAS considered 'strong' encryption in World War II anyway ...
How do you know the UK hasn't just imposed a backdoor to the Enigma encryption algorithm to protect us from terrorists?
AC's cheerfully ignored
Where are your priorites!
Pearl Harbor was just attacked 57 years ago and you people are talking about some crappy shit noone cares about!
Dont they have a bunch of rotors but no enigma somewhere? Of the many enigmas made wouldn't there be some rotors left over?
I know it's not the same as the entire recovered machine that was captured and used to defeat the natzi germany forces but like the crown jewels on display, noone will know they are fake or not the real ones.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
hey lame editor who likes to censor, you really should try and make it less obvious.
See thanks to your fucking shitty code when you're getting your censor on, the database fucks up and the comments all disappear, then when you're finished stifling free speech the comments return all modded down to oblivion.
Why don't you let the users moderate the way they want you disgusting fascist pig.
The other day I found an amusing and informative text file on
some BBS or other, explaining how to make a lifelike, artificial
vagina "out of common household products."
Hey, I thought, I've tried that. (Bet you have, too. Be honest.)
I was intrigued.
The guy who wrote it calls his device Porta-Pussy. It involves a
mailing tube, a string, and a balloon. Basically, you lower the
balloon into the tube, stretch the neck of the balloon to overlap
the outer edge of the tube, then use the string to stretch the
balloon down the length of the tube.
He suggests taping the tube to the edge of a table, kneeling down
and licking it for a while, then standing up and fucking it.
I just tried fucking it. It wasn't bad. I decided not to try the
advanced applications, though, which include sticking a dildo up
your ass and drinking the cum as it leaks out of the tube. Another
time, maybe.
But I did admire his imaginative design; simple to make, reasonable
facsimile, easy cleanup (throw away the balloon). His description
made fun reading, too; "How I Spell Relief." I encourage others to
download his file (called IWACK1.ZIP).
So, in a spirit of sharing, here's my technique. It doesn't look
as authentic as his, and it takes more preparation, but I think
it feels MUCH closer to the real thing. Close your eyes and the
PseudoCunt (this name just occurred to me; snappy, huh?) feels
just EXACTLY like a warm, wet, tight pussy.
You think I'm kidding, right? Nope. Read on, if you're so inclined.
CONTENTS:
1- Registration
2- Materials & Ingredients
3- Construction
4- How to Use
5- Hints & Techniques
6- Troubleshooting
7- Why I Created PseudoCunt
REGISTRATION:
Ha, ha. Get it? It's software. Real soft. If you figure
out who I am, send me some money. PseudoCunt is not
shareware, by the way. It's recommended for use alone.
MATERIALS & INGREDIENTS:
* Cylindrical container (see below)
* Large pot (3-4 quart capacity)
* Butter or margarine (2-3 tablespoons)
* Vegetable oil (just a drop or two)
* Saran Wrap or equivalent
* Spaghetti or fettucini (lots; two boxes)
* Sturdy rubber band
* Several big, firm sofa cushions (optional)
* Your favorite masturbation fantasies in magazine, video,
gif, or virtual form
CONSTRUCTION:
1- Find a suitable container. This is the tough part. The
best one I've found is an overlarge Mason-type jar (about
11" tall), though these are hard to find. Second choice
would be a length of PVC pipe sealed at one end, or a
mailing tube, but it should be at least five inches in
diameter. A half-gallon cardboard milk carton might work,
with clever modifications.
2- In a large pot, bring two or three quarts of water to
full boil. Add a tablespoon of vegetable oil and a pinch of
salt. Boil spaghetti to aldente texture (about 8 minutes).
Any pasta will do, but I find spaghetti and fettucini most
satisfactory.
3- Drain spaghetti, but do not rinse. Mix in A FEW DROPS of
vegetable oil (be CAREFUL not to use too much; use just
enough to keep the spaghetti from sticking together) and
stir well. Set aside in colander until cool enough to handle.
4- While spaghetti is cooling, melt some butter (not much; about
1/3 of one of those little butter pats you get with toast in
a diner is enough). Don't let it boil; 15-30 seconds in the
microwave should do it.
5- Stuff spaghetti into the container described in Step 1.
Really pack it in tightly; as tight as you can cram it in.
This is crucial to success. I use wooden cooking implements
to tamp it down. When the jar is about 3/4 full, bore a hole
down the center with something long and moderately thin (I
use the long handle of a wooden stirring spoon) and continue
packing spaghetti around it, up the brim. Remember to pack
tightly; spaghetti will compress a lot more than you'd think.
6- At this point, remove the rod or dowel or whatever, and
pour a SMALL amount of melted butter down into the little
hole to lubricate it. (By the way, I've found that butter or
margarine feels much more like the creamy inside of an
aroused cunt than any kind of oil; and I've tried quite a
few). Stick your finger in and work the lubrication down
into the little hole. Feels interesting, doesn't it? Close
your eyes and probe, slowly; does that feel just EXACTLY
like a wet pussy hole, or what?
7- Now, use something wider and slightly tapered to widen the
mouth of the surrogate vagina (I use the neck of a wine or
beer bottle). Do this gently, and don't widen it to your
full dick diameter; you want it to be nice and tight.
8- Cut a generous length of Saran Wrap and stretch it tightly
over the mouth of the jar. Fasten it tightly with the
rubber band. Now punch a hole in the Saran Wrap in the
obvious place. (Use a pencil, or a spoon handle, not a
knife; a sharp cut will make the Saran Wrap tear.)
HOW TO USE:
1- Pile two or more big, thick sofa cushions on top of each
other. Make an identical pile next to the first, leaving a
12-inch space between the two piles.
2- In the space between the cushions, spread a towel (or
newspaper) on the floor. If properly constructed, your
PseudoCunt should not make a mess unless you really get
carried away, but it's a good idea to protect against this
possibility.
3- Position the PseudoCunt jar on the floor between the two
cushion piles.
4- Lie across the cushion piles, chest on one, thighs on the
other, dick dangling in the space between. Now, gaze lovingly
at whatever fantasy object you prefer, tease the head of your
dick against the warm, slick mouth and begin fucking.
HINTS AND TECHNIQUES:
* Before you get started, check with your finger to make
sure your PseudoCunt has cooled to the proper temperature.
You don't want to burn yourself. Optimum temperature should
be obvious if you're a reasonably sexually active person.
Push your finger in as deeply as you can; the bottom of the
jar may be too hot even though the mouth is a nice, warm,
cuntlike temperature.
* The PseudoCunt is not recommended for quickies. Choose a
time when you're absolutely certain you'll be alone and
undisturbed. PseudoCunt takes some time to prepare, and a
fair amount of what's called in cinema and theater circles
'suspension of disbelief.' It can't be fully enjoyed if
you're worried about your wife or girlfriend walking in and
finding you fucking a jar of spaghetti.
* Size of the container is important. Make sure it is at
least two inches deeper than your dick is long, and wide
enough so that your dick is surrounded by a generous cushion
of pseudo cuntflesh. You don't want to bang up against the
hard sides or bottom of the thing at a crucial moment.
* Shape of the container is important, too. I like the jumbo
jar configuration because the "shoulders" of the jar where
the neck narrows help to keep the spaghetti in place when
you withdraw on the out-strokes.
* Don't use too much butter. A very small amount should suffice.
Remember that your own secretions will increase the lubricating
effect. It's not generally recognized that grease and oils
actually DE-sensitize erectile tissue. A thin coat of oil on
your dick is like wearing a condom. I find that the absolutely
perfect effect is achieved by adding just a *tiny* amount of
butter, then slathering saliva all over my dick just before
first penetration. The combination of butter, saliva and natural
lubrication that leaks from your dick feels closer to authentic
vagina arousal than any oil I've ever tried.
* Make adequate preparations. Arrange your favorite magazines
on the floor in front of you, or display a particularly
fascinating GIF, or make sure the VCR is cued up and the
remote is handy. One of the real joys of using PseudoCunt is
that it leaves both hands free to work the VCR remote or
languidly browse through magazines, savoring the tight cunt
sucking wetly at your dick with each slight movement of your
hips. With careful preparation it's a damned comfortable
position, and you can just lie there for as long as you please,
indulging as many fantasies as your self-control will allow.
* For best results, fuck slowly and gently on first
penetration. This allows the PseudoCunt hole to adjust to
the proper diameter.
* Don't ram your dick in to the bottom at first. Go slowly,
and try to restrain yourself as long as possible, fucking a
just a little deeper at a time. Each time you stroke a
little deeper, the PseudoCunt is a little tighter, and
incrementally warmer. The sensation is fabulous if prolonged.
I like to keep the last inch or so unpenetrated until I'm
just at the point of cumming, then grunt and howl and plunge
to the bottom and blast my sperm into the tight warmth deep
down inside.
* Sound effects, if authentic, can really heighten the effect.
Porn videos just don't do it for me. Too contrived. I have a
few audio tapes that do, though, and once in a while I'll put
on the headphones while fucking my Pseudocunt. One is a tape
I made by concealing the microphone in the headboard of the
bed before fucking my wife doggy-style (you should consider
trying this; it's incredibly arousing to hear the rutting
grunts and screams of a woman you know). The rest are
recordings of phone-sex conversations with two former
girlfriends -- one in particular, whose panting and gasping
and whimpering as she masturbates is truly phenomenal.
* Shed all inhibitions. Admit to yourself that, while this may
seem truly bizarre behavior, it feels incredibly good. Get
hedonistic. Get totally naked. Or wear leather, or panties
and a bra, or clothespins on your scrotum, whatever makes your
dick throb and ooze.
TROUBLESHOOTING
If you experience problems with your PseudoCunt, the fault most
likely lies in your choice of materials, or lack of attention to
proper construction techniques.
Commonly experienced problems usually have simple solutions:
Too hot for comfort
If too hot, allow to cool at room temperature. Don't get
impatient and put it in the freezer, or outside in a
snowbank. If it cools unevenly, you're in for a very
unpleasant surprise.
Not warm enough
If too cool, place jar in a pan of water on the stove and
simmer for at least 30 minutes. To spread heat more evenly,
make sure the water covers at least 2/3 of the jar, and
place a wire rack beneath the jar to raise it off the bottom
of the pan. If a glass jar is used, you can heat it in a
microwave oven for a minute or so. [This procedure is not
recommended if using a waxed cardboard milk carton.]
These heating techniques, by the way, are handy for repeated
use of your PseudoCunt between washings, unless you're too
squeamish for sloppy seconds.
It's also occurred to me that a hair dryer might be a quick
alternative, but I haven't tried this. I'm not sure I could
maintain a hardon or a straight face kneeling there naked
and blow-drying a jar of spaghetti.
Bits of greasy spaghetti cling to your dick on withdrawal
This is normal. While the problem cannot be eliminated
entirely, the effect can be minimized by several means:
1- Make sure spaghetti is packed in VERY tightly.
2- Use a high-shouldered jar (see above) to help keep
the spaghetti in place on the out strokes.
3- Make sure hole in Saran Wrap is not too large.
Punch, do not cut, this hole to prevent tearing.
PseudoCunt makes distracting slurping noises
You used too much butter, or oil, or both. Or you've gang-
banged your PseudoCunt one too many times and you need to
clean it out and start over again at Step 2.
Of course, if you want to fantasize about oral sex, this
could be regarded as a design feature rather than a problem.
Greasy stains on sofa cushions
My wife responds to greasy stains on upholstery by
immediately dumping a big pile of talcum powder on the
spill, letting it sit for a while, vacuuming it off later,
then calling in a professional furniture cleaner to finish
the job.
I try to avoid stains by making sure the Saran Wrap is
tightly secured with the rubber band, and by spreading a
towel over the leading edge of the sofa cushion pile. I'd
rather not have to explain PseudoCunt stains to my wife.
Fetid stench
Throw away the spaghetti and wash the damn thing. Unless
mold and bacteria growth play an essential role in your
sexual fantasies, repeated use of the PseudoCunt is not
recommended beyond, say, 24 hours. Refrigerate after use.
WHY I CREATED PSEUDOCUNT
No, I'm not a social outcast or a phobic recluse. I have a
normal sex life (pretty fabulous, actually) so I should
explain why I continued to experiment with masturbation
techniques in adulthood, long after abandoning the clumsy
remedies most teens invent to draw off excess spunk.
One reason is simply that I'm a very sensuous person with a
vivid imagination. I've found that I can occasionally attain
amazing heights of sexual arousal when I masturbate. At the
risk of sounding immodest, I've induced some of the best
orgasms I've ever had.
Another reason is that I am aware of absolutely no physical
or psychological reasons not to masturbate, and can't help
wondering if the world might not be a better place if more
people did. Whether they use fists or balloons or spaghetti.
Finally, it provides a fabulous way to indulge certain sexual
fantasies that just can't be shared no matter how skilled and
understanding one's lover may be. Know what I mean?
If you're inclined to give this thing a try, I hope it
enhances your own secret fantasies as much as it does mine.
If you have a technique of your own, write it up and post it
for others to share. If you find the whole concept disgusting,
why did you read this far?
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
Certainly.
The Engima story is quite interesting and complex; volumes can and have been written about it and it's beyond the scope of a Slashdot post to relay the full history. But I've provided some links if you're curious.
It should be noted that Bletchley Park's work in deciphering the Enigma codes - used by the Germans to direct operations including U-boat attacks on Allied convoys - proved vital to the outcome of the WWII.
Bletchley Park, code-named Station X, employed teams of mathematicians, linguists and chess champions during the war.
By the end of 1945, 10,000 people worked there.
With the help of decoding machines, the army of experts were able to crack the German code Enigma, which Berlin believed to be unbreakable.
The work carried out at the top-secret centre is believed to have shortened the war by several years and was kept secret until 1967.
The stolen device, an Abwehr Enigma G312, is a rare four-rotor version, one of only three still known to be in existence.
If you have a problem with my views, REPLY, don't moderate!
We should stop modding down the goatse trolls as 'offtopic'.
;)
After all, backdoors are pretty relevant in an encryption discussion
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Unless he's reverse engineering the thing and still hasn't mapped out the wheel connections? ;-)
.. there are more ethical (not to mention legal) ways to get this information, but maybe he was trying to get a really good look at what was inside .. who knows?
It may be old technology, but I certainly would enjoy having a copy of an Enigma on the coffee table for guests to play with
73 de N5VB (ex-KD5BIV) AR SK
Do they run Linux? Can you make a Beowulf cluster of them?
Let's get it straight that Poland cracked Enigma and built working devices from scratch, long before Turing automated the the decryption process at Bletchley, or Matthew McConaughey recovered the secret Death Star plans from R2-D571.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Obviously if there are only 3 in the world, htis machine was prety valuable (10000 pounds, i think?). The article was sparse with details, but i think it was stolen during public viewing day(?). That was clearly a bad idea, given the rarity of the item.
Also, IANAL but since the machine was returned sans vital parts, the guy could've been charged with some other stuff, like vandalism or defacing government property or something similar. Stealing it was not a bright idea, since a machine like that is hard to sell without arousing suspicion, and is useless for anything else.
Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology.
I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult for, we wanted to integrate Linux into our server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.
I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The 3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise" environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour, we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the Linux boxes.
Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.
thank you.
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
Is the enigma machine still a useful method of encryption? If not, wouldn't it fit better into some section about crime & punishment, antiques, historical objects, etc.?
My basic question is, can you actually use the enigma for secure communications still?
-Kasreyn
Kasreyn: Cheerfully playing the part of Devil's Advocate to hairtrigger
Yeah, and to Atlanta no less. If it makes you feel any better, even though Barry will set the home run record I'd be suprised if the Giants catch Arizona to get to the playoffs. Even if they do, they won't make it past the first round. Oh well. At least you have the Yankees and I have the A's.
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
Having used this Spaghetti-in-a-jar technique, I swear by it. With the mayo in a taco shell, it seems like you'd just push all the mayo out the end and wind up fucking a hard tortilla. Thats no good! But keep thinking of things. We lonely trolls appreciate it!!
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
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Hmmm... interesting. The Yahoo article claims it is worth 10,000 pounds and the BBC article claims it is worth 100,000 pounds. Do journalists simply assign any value they want?
wow, i read somewhere that the original abacus chits were discovered in a sack walnuts beneath a peat pond. fascinating. that is like Soooo Fucking Geek.
what a sausage party this place has become.
There is a movie about Enigma out now in the UK. Unfortunately the movie is all fiction and gets many of the facts horribly wrong. One of the movies misrepresentations is "forgetting" that it was Polish scientists who first broke the Enigma encription and not the British. The other (which is quite disturbing) portrays one Polish guy as a traitor who tries to tell the Germans about the success of breaking Enigma. The movie caused a small scandal in Poland and will almost certainly hurt those remaining Poles who fought in the battle of Britain who still live in the UK and are now being portrayed in such ways. Bad Brittons! Bad!
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
There are links to many downloadable simulations here, including an Abwehr Enigma sim for Windows. There even appears to be one written for Palm Pilot.
You're using her as bait, Master!
Basically, I'm completely pissed, so i am gonna post something completely offtopic, yet strangekly relevant.
Bletchley Park.
Thats where the war was won.
As much as the Somme....
I live in bletchley, MK
2 minutes walk to bletchley psrk.
And you wanna know abouth this place???
Man this ids the most boring dull, back end armpit of the earth, a hell hole full of inbreds who havent left this twon for 6 generations.
The IQ of the population lep 10fold when Alan Turing arrived (more offtopic-ness: why to gays (and i'm saying this an afectionate way, i love em even thou i aint one)... pick such bad role models..... ie steps, elton john, princess die, when they have someone like Turing to look up to), and since turing left, the town has gone ven further down hilll.
Anyways.... Any yanks coming over here..... avoid bletchley at all costs - at best, you will prbably come away with BSE
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I like goats
How can a group of people who stole the enigma machine in a murderous plot, have the balls to worry about some white collar crime involving a piece of technology that is long out-dated?
anigma?
It will soon be illegal to use one of these anyway.
Puhleeez, Slashdot, dramatic headlines are great, but when they come at the expense of truth, it gets to be a drag.
... to handling a stolen Enigma encoding machine". That's quite a bit different than admitting he stole them. It may well be a crime to handle stolen goods after the fact, and there's possibly a good story here also. But this guy didn't plead guilty to stealing it so the more interesting story of how/why it was stolen and by whom is still out there. Consider saving this headline for a later day...
Your headline reads: Man Pleads Guilty to Stealing Enigma Machine
The story itself states clearly several times in the first few sentences: that he "admitted handling stolen goods" and that he "pleaded guilty
Considering that Enigma can be cracked in seconds on modern computers, not really.
- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
...the country of Poland is being charged under the DMCA for creating a device capable of circumventing copyright. What they did was clear disrespect for the Nazi's intellectual property rights.
"First they tell you you're wrong and they can prove it; then they tell you you're right but it isn't important; then they tell you it's important but they knew it all along." -Charles Kettering
Maybe he can't spell and is looking for a way to wash out his own ass. Some people really have nothing better to do.
...All I can say is that my life is pretty strange...
Nah, I'd much rather find some hot German lesbian scat action. Nothing gets Egg Troll off nearly as fast as two women shitting on one another. If you cand find me some of that, I'll let you ride Taco for a weekend!!
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
I stole an enema machine before and got busted and got convicted too ($50 fine, banned from rite-aid for 2 years) but i don't see slashdot posting any stories about me...
If I remember correctly, the Difference Engine and the Analytical Engine were two different beasts. The link you gave for colorado.edu is for a Difference Engine, not an Analytical Engine. I don't think an Analytical Engine has ever been built.
Again, if I remember correctly, the Difference Engine was a precursor to the Analytical Engine, and was to be used for generating tables of numbers (log tables, etc.), whereas the Analytical Engine was more general-purpose and programmable.
It's so funny that the media and historians say that the Enigma machine is rare. The german's had a lot of those, and many was recovered after the war.
I know for a fact that a military installations in Europe has at least 30 pieces of those machines stored in a warehouse.
So why do they keep'em secret? If you've ever encountered a ww2 militara collector, you'd know... (Imagine the worst linux zealot, multiply him by 20 and you got your average militaria collector.)
mod me into oblivion. . .I don't really care, but you should know that the quote generator has a wrong quote.
It said: $100 invested at 7% interest for 100 years will become $100,000, at which time it will be worth absolutely nothing. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
It should be: $100 placed at 7 percent interest compounded quarterly for 200 years will increase to more than $100,000,000--by which time it will be worth nothing. --Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
Get it right.
Screw karma. I'll post what's on my mind.
I have an old amiga 500 laying about somewhere if they want spare bits to replace the ones in their amiga... anyone know where to send them?
In the recent trend to link everything to Osama Bin Laden, many officals believe the Enigma was being used by Bin Laden as described before as his "High Tech Cryptography" that he switched to after he found out the US was monitoring his satellite phone conversations.
When VALinux finally goes bankrupt, CmdrTaco is going to need to get a new job. Here's what's most likely going to happen.
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or maybe even a PseudoMouth?
you know they injected him with estrogen forcibly, yes?
hey retard turing would have loved a backdoor in it.
iirc turing was killed because he was a homosexual. he was arrested and had his security clearance revoked. then someone poisoned him with cyanide. its very sad.
anyway if you care check out the alan turing homepage
"Tension is the great integrity" -- R. Buckminster Fuller
Hey, ho, to judgement day we go
I piss on Mecca. I menstruate on the Koran. I shit on Mohammed.
True. The Analytical Engine was never built, and so far as I know, no replica exists. An artist's impression of the AE graces the cover of the William Gibson/Bruce Sterling collaboration The Difference Engine, making it easy to conflate the two.
The link to John Walker's site, however, does contain software that emulates the AE. The colorado.edu link has a replica of a Difference Engine. So I suppose it's like showing a picture of an Intel 4004-based calculator to someone who wanted to see a picture of a computer. The raw materials (chips, PCB, keypad, display) are the same, so I guess it's a difference in degree, not kind. I guess.
Now you've got me confused.
All I can say is imagine a Beowulf ClustBZZZZT GAAAAAAHHHH!
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"In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart." - Anne Frank
I cracked up when I read this. You moderators suck. All you want to do is bring people down. How about modding some gems up and having a sense of humor for a day? I'm tired of this crackhead moderating, personally.
Now, go ahead and mod me to -1, offtopic (or flamebait, whichever is "mod down excuse of the day") as well. I mean, obviously I'm as deservant as gusnz is.
Do you like German cars?
Perhaps slightly off-topic: Python has a builtin module, rotor , that provides rotor-based encryption. The documentation says: "The design is derived from the Enigma device, a machine used during World War II to encipher messages." Cool! Take it for a spin:
>>> import rotor
>>> r = rotor.newrotor('secretkey')
>>> print r.encrypt('squeamish ossifrage')
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1) They're spinning madly away in the NSA's basement.
2) They're being boxed into Lego Mindstorm kits.
3) Or perhaps they're the driving force behind my own computer. No wonder my Seti@Home blocks take eight months each.*
4) Scattered amidst the spare parts behind a defunct Yugo factory.
* Consumer tip: Never buy a Celeron out of the back of a truck.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
..because I coulda sworn it said an "enema machine" was stolen....
I seem to remember an article in scientific american back in 1992 about a british historical society having built a few stages of an analytical engine.
It was able to calculate factorials if I remember correctly.
"Pleaded" is not a word
good point
for a second there I was worried that Osama bin Laden would have access to the Enigma and be one step ahead of the CIA!
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Authentic WWII encryption machines like the German Enigma as well as the Japanese and other code machines should be considered national treasures and treated as such. Equivalent to priceless ancient relics, artworks and historic documents.
IMHO, During WWII there was a life-and-death race to cracking the codes that those type of machines created. Hence, the essential need of stronger computational power to break Enigma. Turing, et al worked creating techniques against Enigma and thus our computer science was born. The world would be a vastly different place today if it were not for breaking of Enigma and the like. Think about it.
They are priceless examples of history and should be displayed with proper security.
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That this case should come to court the day before the Enigma movie opened in the UK.
Sounds like the movie is based on the novel "Enigma"
by Robert Harris. This also has the polish spy (somehow
weaving in a storry about the Katyn massacre on polish
officers).
But this book gets the part with the original invention
of the bombes by the polish engineers right.
There are some other smaller differences from tech
details in the book, but overall it gives a good
atmospheric idea about the time and proceedings.
Maybe we should prefer not to be annoyed by the way novels and
movies treat history, but too many people only hear
about history through movies and novels.
The feds took the enigma machine because they wanted the advanced crypto technology. If you look in side a carnivore you'll see cogs and bombe wheels and stuff... oh and it also has a little colossus emulator too. But then someone explained that terrorists genrally use quadruple-rot13 cyphers to plan their attacks, so the feds gave it back and now they use 'Bob's ROT-13 v1.0 Freeware'
How long until the press write a story linking Bin Laden and the terrorists, Crypto Backdoors, and blaim it on the Enigma machine?
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As 5 seconds at www.m-w.com would demonstrate. Moron.
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Yes it was in the Science Museum in London.
here.
If they try to decipher US commucations and succeed, they will get both a bombing and a DMCA suit.
Those are unlucky people...
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
Apparently most came off of captured WW2 submarines that were towed into Halifax harbour and disassembled for intelligence info. Canada kept the Enigmas but didn't bother to tell anyone. (They ended up at CSE in Ottawa.)
"I figure you're here 'cause you need some whacko who's willing to stick his finger in the fan. So who are we helping?
Actually, he committed suicide.