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Dmitry Sklyarov Gains High-Profile Defense Lawyer

Diesel Dave writes: "There's an article on Law.com about Dmitry Sklyarov's new Lawyer. Renowned San Francisco defense attorney John Keker has agreed to represent the Russian programmer pro bono. Keker is quoted as saying: "I think he is being unjustly accused and that's the kind of case I like to do." and "[The Government is] always welcome to dismiss the case, but we didn't come in to make a plea deal." This gives me the impression he has full intensions of fighting this to the end. Good."

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  1. Interesting decisions given recent events... by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Given the current anti-tech rage being promoted in the US media this is a brave decision which should be applauded. While it is quite clear that this is a ridiculous case these are rapidly becomming ridiculous times.

    "Ex-Commie tries to undermine US companies" is an all to easy headline to imagine. Its excellent that he has this defence lawyer, that should drive him into freedom, but the fact remains that the Don't Mind Capitulating Act is liable to get stronger rather than weaker... will Bush make this the one case where there isn't a back door to cryptography... probably.

    This sort of thing is part of the reason why the US is now in recession, the driving of large corporations at the expense on innovation.

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  2. Great news - Keker is top notch by hillct · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's important that prescident setting cases of this sort are tried by the best available trial atourneys, such that the prescident that will be set can be looked upon as binding, regardless of which way the case goes. I'm suprised that more nationally renowned defense atourneys weren't all over this case from the start. It's nice to have good news in this case once in a while

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    1. Re:Great news - Keker is top notch by nachoworld · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is the U.S. such a big believer in precedents? No other country determines case outcomes based on precedent as strongly as the U.S. If we can get over our precedents maybe we wouldn't have to worry so much about the future. Things can be decided on a case-by-case basis.

      That way cases like Bowen v. AHA (courts allowed Down's Syndrome patient to die from an easily curable gastric obstruction because the parents asked the doc not to operate *wink, wink*) won't really matter in the future.

      There will always be cases that make bad precedents for the future. The AHA had a good lawyer (probably Keker caliber) and they successfully defended themselves. Who's to say which is the "right" precedent to establish in a case. Maybe if we didn't hold on so strongly to precedents...

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    2. Re:Great news - Keker is top notch by Jason+Pollock · · Score: 5, Informative
      No other country determines case outcomes based on precedent as strongly as the U.S.

      How about the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and any other common law based country? Their entire system of law is based around the body of prior court decisions.

      Precedent is powerful. It demonstrates what the higher courts decided was meant by the law, because they let the decisions stand...

      Jason Pollock
  3. Re:I never thought I'd hear myself say this... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay, so we don't kill all the lawyers.

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  4. Bravo! by pschmied · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is really good news. I really hope that Dmitry Skylarov can go home to Russia soon.

    On a side note, this case has gotten much more attention in international circles than it has in the US.

    At my university I've met a woman from Ukraine who claims that for a while, atleast, there was daily coverage of the Skylarov predicament in the Ukrainian newspapers. Much like our terrorist coverage continues to dominate the news here in the land of the home, and the free of the brave.

    For a moderately non-technical person, she seemed to have a very good grasp of the issues, albeit with a touch of (IMHO justified) "the US is doing this because they can" spin.

    Well, I digress. Congrats, Dmitry. I hope you make it back to Russia before I visit there this winter.


    -Peter

  5. Article's Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Russian Programmer Dmitry Sklyarov Gains High-Profile Defense Lawyer

    Substitution adds twist to cyber-cause celèbre

    Shannon Lafferty
    The Recorder
    October 1, 2001

    Renowned San Francisco defense attorney John Keker has agreed to represent indicted Russian computer programmer Dmitry Sklyarov on a pro bono basis.

    Keker's decision to represent Sklyarov, believed to be one of the first to be criminally charged under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, could put an end to speculation that a plea deal is in the works.

    Keker of Keker & Van Nest won't say whether any plea offers are on the table but said he wasn't brought aboard to cut a deal.

    "They are always welcome to dismiss the case, but we didn't come in to make a plea deal," Keker said Thursday. "We are here to deal with the defense of the case and to win it."

    Sklyarov, 26, is accused of writing a program for his Russian employer ElcomSoft that allows people using Adobe Systems Inc. eBook software to copy and print digital books, transfer them to other computers and have the text read aloud by the computer.

    Keker, whose past cases include the prosecution of Lt. Col. Oliver North in the Iran-Contra scandal, said he was approached to take Sklyarov's case but did not elaborate further. Keker said he took the case pro bono because he felt Sklyarov was unfairly targeted.

    "I think he is being unjustly accused and that's the kind of case I like to do," Keker said Thursday.

    Defense attorney Joseph Burton was initially retained to represent Sklyarov but is withdrawing to represent co-defendant ElcomSoft.

    Since Sklyarov was arrested in July at a convention in Las Vegas, programmers and technology companies have publicly criticized the prosecution. The alleged victim, San Jose, Calif.-based Adobe Systems, which initially reported Sklyarov and his Russian employer to the U.S. Attorney's office, has said it no longer supports prosecution.

    Both sides are currently conducting discovery. Keker said he and his team will be working "to understand Adobe's role and determine whether or not it's proper."

    Colleen Pouliot, Adobe senior vice president and general counsel, did not return calls.

    Former prosecutors have said that Adobe's decision to distance itself from the case makes it tougher for the U.S. Attorney's office.

    "Unlike traditional crimes, where you have an individual or an institution as the victim, tech crimes enter into a new area because all the government has to rely on is the expertise of the company," said Stephen Freccero, a former prosecutor now with Morrison & Foerster's San Francisco office. "Generally, they are the kinds of cases the government wouldn't even know about if they hadn't been contacted by the victim," Freccero added in a recent interview.

    Groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which promotes cyber-rights, have been critical of the prosecution from the start, saying the DMCA wasn't intended to criminalize software like Sklyarov's.

    Meanwhile, observers have said Adobe's about-face has put the U.S. Attorney's office in a tough situation. If it drops the charges, the office may seem ill-equipped to handle the high-tech, white-collar crimes it has vowed to go after. If it goes ahead with an unpopular prosecution, it could alienate high-tech companies whose assistance it needs to develop other cases.

    Sklyarov, who is out on bail, will appear in San Jose federal court Nov. 26 for a pretrial hearing. If convicted, he could face five years in prison and a $500,000 fine.

  6. Symbiotic Relationship by Lethyos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not that I find fault with it, but Mr. Keker has just as much to gain from representing Dmitri as Dmitri himself. Keker will gain a great deal of press and attention, whether or not he wins the case. Dmitri on the otherhand, now has a fighting chance at getting off clean from this injustice.

    Hopefully, this is the kind of trend we can expect. As the open source and free speech movements (funny you have to think of it in those terms these days - thought we already had that one down) become more and more publicized, we may see more and more lawyers jump into the fray on our behalf for their benefit.

    Again, not a bad thing, but we don't want to be misguided into thinking that these lawyers working pro bono support our causes. They just as soon would take a $1M check from Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Symbiotic Relationship by startled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, he's already high-profile enough that he doesn't need the advertising. He can already pretty much name his fee.

      Sure, maybe he can charge a couple more bucks-- but that'll hardly balance out with what he would've made charging a different client during the hours he spends on this case. And sure, maybe he enjoys being in the papers; and maybe his clients expect that from him.

      But basically, he's already got plenty of money, and his practice is plenty successful. If he were just in it for the money, he wouldn't take this case. You'll find that a lot of defense attorneys (and prosecutors) really care about what happens to their client. Sure, Keker's probably not some anti-DMCA zealot, but he wouldn't have taken this case if he didn't think Sklyarov's prosecution was unjust.

      Yes, cynicism is good, and with lawyers, it's doubly important. :) But contrary to popular belief, most of them are not soulless, money grubbing ambulance chasers.

  7. Press Release by brad3378 · · Score: 4, Funny

    &gt John Keker has agreed to represent the Russian programmer pro bono

    AP - Moscow: In a briew interview with the lead singer of U2, Bono denies allegations with regards to involvement in writing software that is used to break copy protection schemes. Although Bono admits to using similar software to pirate his own music, He believes that he should be able to write whatever code he likes. Bono refused futher requests for an interview.

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  8. Dmitri, PLEASE Go Home! :) by Lethyos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really hope that Dmitry Skylarov can go home to Russia soon.

    Yes! Go home! Quick, Dmitri, go back to Russia! Your presense here is showing Americans how stupid our legal system is and our people can't possibly remain ignorant for much longer! Shoo! Shoo!

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  9. Nonsensical. by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Generally, they are the kinds of cases the government wouldn't even know about if they hadn't been contacted by the victim,"

    They say this as this is specific to hi-tech crimes. Most property crime, extortion, rapes, battery, assualts, only only known by the government when the victim makes a complaint.

    I am suprised that Dmitry didn't bring a lawsuit against Adobe and the government for retaliation under the ADA. He was aiding others in making a reasonable accomodation by breaking the software to allow it to be converted to speech for the blind.

  10. More people like John Keker. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I think he is being unjustly accused and that's the kind of case I like to do," Keker said Thursday.

    Bravo.

    As programmers write code to further the cause of opensource software, we need skilled Lawyers to protect our rights. Its war, and the battle will take place in the courts.

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  11. They should sue Adobe by shankark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The release doesn't mention whether Skylarov will press for damages if acquitted, seeing as he is pitted against the US government. But I think, Keker must file a simultaneous petition to seek damages from Adobe. That should teach them to stop acting like idiots. One moment they are crying foul to mamma, then they see there's nothing in it for them, and then sheepishly wanting to opt out. Show them how the jungle law of the West works, Keker!

  12. Some bio info by Leven+Valera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is available here. http://www.kvn.com/attyjwk.html

    This is very good. With the recent events in NYC further stigmatizing the public's view of technology, Keker taking the case is an excellent move to bring Dimitri's case into proper perspective.

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  13. Re:Symbiotic Relationships on all levels by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Not that I find fault with it, but Lethyos has just as much to gain from posting his comment as we readers ourselves. Lethyos will gain a great deal of press and attention, whether or not his comment is highly moderated.

    Yada yada yada. What a ridiculous comment! of COURSE both people gain from the deal! What else COULD there be -- Would you feel better if someone were holding a gun to Mr. Keker's head? Or if he had been drafted with the alternative a prison sentence?

    And who the heck are you to say this lawyer doesn't support "our" causes? What causes would that be? Your cause? My cause? How about Dmitri's cause? Maybe Mr. Keker supports the cause of stopping Big Brother?

    Good gosh, get a new hat -- your head's so swelled up you'll need a custom size.

  14. It's sad that this matters by mickwd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I'm very happy for Dmitri Sklyarov, it's rather a sad indictment on the judicial system that having the one of the best lawyers seems to matter so much.

    Surely any competent lawyer should be sufficient to point out the facts of the case, and allow a reasonably impartial judge and jury to judge the case accordingly.

    Sadly, this doesn't appear to be the case.

    And no, this isn't intended just to be an attack on the US justice system. I'm sure other countries are as bad (even if some of our laws aren't as bad in this regard - at least, not yet).

  15. As good as this news is for Dmitry... by jcr · · Score: 3, Interesting


    While it's a very good thing that he'll have excellent representation, I still say that Adobe should be paying full price for his defense.

    That mealy-mouthed "oh, we're sorry we called in the thugs" business doesn't begin to atone for what they've done.

    -jcr

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  16. High tech vs Precedents by Gorimek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems to me that there is a problem with high tech in a precedent based judical system. Common law seems to be based on the assumption that things pretty much stay the same.

    The first case to be determined regarding some new and revolutionizing tech development is bound to be heard by judges and lawyers who aren't familiar with it, probbaly somewhat scared and confused by it, and when the full consequences of it is not understood. That sounds like the wirst possible time and way to determine how to handle it in all future.

    What happened to the law that cars could only drive 5 mph and have a guy with a red flag walking in front of it?