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IgNobel Awards

how_would_i_know writes: "I've always suspected there was a coconut conspiracy... now there's proof. :-)" We might as well follow-up on our earlier story with a list of the IgNobel Winners. Stalin World! A study of glee! And of course, a true breakthrough, the solution to the shower curtain mystery.

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  1. Patented the WHAT?! by FreezerJam · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, I bet he only patented the ROUND wheel.

    I'll patent the wheel composed of a high number
    of flat sides arranged as a regular polygon.

    That'll get him....

  2. Alternate address for results... by FreezerJam · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...and try this address for winners...



    http://www.improb.com/ig/ig-2001-winners.html


  3. Oh, so that's what it's calld.... by gimmie_prozac · · Score: 3, Funny

    All this time I've been thinking I was a freak, it turns out I'm just suffer from Rhinotillexomania. Gross activities seem so much more benign once you stick a scientific name on them. Now I just need to do something about all the crud stuck to the underside of my desk.

  4. 2.5 percent of injuries... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just goes to show you that no matter what you say to people, they're going to walk around without crash helmets! If it were Canada, there would already be legislation, perimeter fences around the coconut trees, and big wind blocks to prevent the coconuts from being blown off the trees.

    This is a preventable accident, and measures should be taken to halt these needless coconut injuries!

  5. Funniest statement in the article by dngrmouse · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Group glee doesn't happen alone."

    Gosh, how insightful! Never in a million years would I have known that group glee cannot happen when you're alone!

  6. Anyone else thinks... by Balinares · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... That the guy who managed to prove Patent Offices will approve a freaking patent on the wheel deserves a real prize? I mean, what a better proof could you find that (while patents are inherently a good thing) the way they're being handled of late is, well, kinda bad...

    Bleah, maybe the guy who managed that just wanted to be funny, but I find it rather chilling myself... :p

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    1. Re:Anyone else thinks... by mmontour · · Score: 4, Informative

      I mean, what a better proof could you find that (while patents are inherently a good thing) the way they're being handled of late is, well, kinda bad..

      Does US5443036: Method of exercising a cat qualify? (IIRC, this won an IgNobel in a previous year)

      Abstract:

      A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor or wall or other opaque surface in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser so as to cause the bright pattern of light to move in an irregular way fascinating to cats, and to any other animal with a chase instinct.

  7. Science History by Nindalf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stalin, while relaxing in a tropical amusement park, picking his nose, was struck by a coconut, prompting a brilliant idea! He immediately dragged his car (he couldn't get any wheel's, because they were patented) to his workshop and made a set of airproof underpants. He considered using charcoal filter's to absorb fart's, but because it would have to be changed, he instead leveraged his recent singularity research to create a small, contained black hole.

    To test them, knowing that adult's might be too polite to be honest or too dignified to participate, he gathered together a group of children. The test's were held in a shower to handle any accidents that might result from forced farting. It worked brilliantly. The children tried them in turn's, and not an unpleasant whiff escaped.

    For a final test, Stalin tried them on himself and stepped into the shower and strained with all his strength. Unfortunately, his mighty blast destabilized the black hole, causing him and the shower curtain to be sucked into it. At first thinking it all part of the fun, the children were overjoyed at the spectacle.

    He was awarded an Ig Nobel Prize posthumously, though this is likely no consolation as he is presumed to live in an eternal hell of contained fart's.

    (I swear it sounded like a good idea when I started writing...)

  8. Damn! by Nindalf · · Score: 2

    I left out the part about how, because due to time dilation, he will not be truly dead for several million years at least, the usual inheritance tax was not levied on his estate.

  9. Shower Curtain Prior Art by Autonomous+Crowhard · · Score: 4, Funny
    Oh hell... At least it was prior thought. I figured this out ages ago (1981-ish). and I even came up with a better solution: redirect the shower head slightly towards the curtain. The water pressure overcomes the other forces.

    OK, where the hell is my grant???

    1. Re:Shower Curtain Prior Art by Error27 · · Score: 2

      Well, first of all as far as I could see he didn't patent it but was merely studying it...

      But also, if we used your suggestion then we would get water all over the floor. The whole point of the shower curtain is to keep water from getting on the floor. Moisture hurts the furniture and perhaps the floor. And wettness increases the your risk of falling when you get out.

      What I do is use a blow drier to negate the inward forces. With my method there is far less risk of getting the floor wet but the noise may bother some people.

    2. Re:Shower Curtain Prior Art by grammar+nazi · · Score: 4, Funny
      What I do is Duct Tape the shower curtain sealed all around the floor, walls, and yes... even the ceiling.

      In addition to keeping the shower curtain where it belongs, this also forces me to take quick showers, because of CO2 poisoning if I'm in there for more than 7 minutes.

      I've thus, killed 2 birds with one stone (or roll of duct tape). Extra benefits are mastery of the 6 1/2 minute shower and being able to shave afterwards while still dizzy.

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  10. Re:Simple answer by grammar+nazi · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That's a nice simple answer, Davace. You are a real genius. Now tell me, Davace, why does the shower curtain still 'suck' even when you take a cold shower? The researcher mentions that fact in the first paragraph of his article.

    ....dogh!!

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  11. Turn off scripting before you read the results by sulli · · Score: 2

    otherwise it redirects to a 404 page.

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  12. Truly comic touch by Ronnie+Coote · · Score: 3, Funny

    The truly comic touch to this comes from IP Australian (the federal government agency which granted the patent in the first place) says...

    "Don't reinvent the wheel. Searching worldwide patent information can help you avoid wasting time and money duplicating work done elsewhere"

    (from here)

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    1. Re:Truly comic touch by markmoss · · Score: 2

      That's the explanation. There are no previous patents for wheels.

      You would think they would give some thought to non-patented prior art too. Next thing you know, they'll let someone patent communications satellites... 8-)

  13. A physics question (really) by hey! · · Score: 2

    Peter Barss of McGill University earned the Ig Nobel Prize in Medicine for pointing out that the real thing can pack a metric tonne of force when it drops from a 35-metre palm tree.

    He had an astronomer relative calculate the force after seeing victims arrive at the hospital where he worked in Papua New Guinea.


    How exactly do you calculate something like this? I'm one of those geeks who remember just enough physics to be confused. It seems to me that the force is dependent on the mass of the coconut and its acelleration, which is determined by the rigidity of what is being hit (e.g. a steel plate vs. a foam mat).

    It also seems to me that as devestating as a coconut impact might be, it would not be as reliably deadly as carefully placing over two thousand pounds on somebody's head.

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    1. Re:A physics question (really) by jnik · · Score: 2
      Pretty simple, actually. Figure the mass of a coconut, height of the tree, and you can solve for the velocity of the coconut at impact, say five feet off the ground. I think for this one you'd ignore air resistance, but that's possible. You then know the impulse. Elasticity of the human heada is I'm sure well-known by know, so you can find out how the force would be spread out over time to produce the needed impulse. Heck, you might even be able to do this one on the back of an envelope.

      Certainly a coconut is less reliable, but I don't recall anyone suggesting they use this research for assassination.

  14. Free Ignobel Lectures by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    If you live in the area, you can get there this afternoon.

    The IG INFORMAL LECTURES will beheld at MIT room 26-100 on Saturday, October 6, 1 pm.

    A half-afternoon of improbably funny, informative, brief (10-15 minutes each), high-spirited public lectures:

    • David Jones (Nature magazine's "Daedalus") will delight and confound everyone and everything.
    • The 2001 Ig Nobel Prize winners in the fields of Biology, Medicine, Public Health, Economics, and Peace will attempt to explain why they've done what they've done.
    This free event is organized in cooperation with the MIT Press Bookstore.
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  15. A follow-up to a follow-up. Niiice. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 2



    Enough with the "shower curtain" stories, Michael. You yourself originally posted the same story back in July. Out of the hundreds of submissions for stories given to Slashdot, you picked this one? Come on..

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  16. Re:but what about the... by DJerman · · Score: 2
    [I] still say nothing beats a nice large anvil when hitting people

    Yes, generally things that beat a nice large anvil are, in fact, hitting a nice large anvil.

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  17. The Australian sense of humor by ral · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the Australian government patent site Searching patent information page:

    "Don't reinvent the wheel. Searching worldwide patent information can help you avoid wasting time and money duplicating work done elsewhere."

  18. To heck with patenting the wheel... by markmoss · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll patent fire!

    Claim 1: A process for the production of heat by the chemical combination of oxygen with solid, liquid, or gaseous substances.

    Claim 2: The reduction in volume or weight of waste material by chemical combination with oxygen.

  19. Stalin World Article by pedro · · Score: 2

    Is available here. The guy who built the place has one *seriously* twisted sense of humor.... my hat goes off to him!

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  20. You've never seen a kid watch Barney then by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    Watching TV is being alone.

  21. You know funny about that shower curtain mystery.. by Telek · · Score: 2

    I've been wondering about it ever since it was posted... I've done some tests in my shower, and I'm not so sure that what he says is true. Or at least it's not entirely responsible.

    I tried the cold shower thing, and the curtain only moved inwards slightly. Not nearly as much as with a hot shower.

    And after the water was turned off, the curtains were STILL pulled inwards. As soon as I opened the side a little (to let the air mix) they immediately stopped pulling inwards (hence it would appear to be a temperature difference, not a mysterious mini cyclone effect)

    Anyone else tried it?

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  22. "Cannot, or should not, be reproduced" by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
    I though the IgNobels were supposed to be about outright silly research. Maybe it's just me, but what's so silly about the coconut thing? I never thought about it much because I live in Baltimore, where we don't have a lot of coconut palms, but yeah, if the damned trees run to 35 meters in height, then that's roughly a coconut dropping off a ten-story building. I'd be damned surprized if that didn't injure anybody who happened to be standing below. If he's right that it's 2.5% of the trauma cases he sees, that's not entirely trivial (just for comparison, does anybody know what percentage of trauma admissions are for injuries from lightning?)

    Oh, and if you visit New Guinea and there's a storm -- don't take shelter beneath a palm tree.

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  23. SQUARE wheels by Bastian · · Score: 4, Funny
    And a new road surface.

    No, really. A square wheel will ride over a surface made of a series of half-circles (think: one long string of speedbumps) as if it were a round wheel going across a flat surface.

  24. Have a helping of math. by Bastian · · Score: 2

    Let's assume the coconut weighs 1kg.

    And our unfortunate victim's head is 1.5m off the ground (thus making the distance the coconut falls 33.5m.

    After having falling 33.5m, the coconut will be moving at sqrt(2*9.8*33.5), or 25.6 m/s.

    If the person's head stops the coconut instantly, the deceleration will be infinite, meaning infinite force. Let's hope this is the case, because our hapless victim will likely die too quickly to feel the pain.

    Sadly, the world does not work this way, so let's assume it takes 1/2 cm for the coconut to fully decelerate after hitting his/her head. (It's a soft head.)

    Using the equation used above, v^2 = v0^2 + 2a(x - x0), we know that the acceleration will be 656.6m/s/s.

    With a 1 kg coconut, that means 656.6 newtons of force into your head. And that's assuming you have a truly soft head.