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Digital Dailies and the Matrix Sequels

rkischuk writes: "IGN FilmForce has gathered several tidbits about the Matrix sequels. Among the most interesting of them is that the dailies from the shooting of the film in Australia will be transmitted electronically to the U.S. using TRW's Picture Pipeline."

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  1. Picture Pipeline? by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why not just use limewire?

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  2. glitch in the matrix. by Frey · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could swear that I just saw CmdrTaco post another article on the Mandrake based supercomputer cluster. I clicked on the link to mod him down as redundant and a man in black told me that there was "nothing to see here."

    On returning to the home page, I find the posting gone and this Matrix one in its place. Too strange.

    1. Re:glitch in the matrix. by the+Man+in+Black · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, we have to protect our own.

      Move along...nothing more to see here.

      Mr. Anderson....what good is a +1 bonus if you can't....post?

  3. Super duper mega dailies encryption by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to the article, the dailies will be transmitted over the internet and will be Triple DES encrypted plus PGP CAST 128 for the files.

    I humbly wish to propose the target subject of the next distributed.net project....

    1. Re:Super duper mega dailies encryption by jandrese · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, by the time D.net finishes decoding the trailers you should be able to pick up the DVDs of the movie cheap, especially considering how the sun would be pretty much burnt out by that point.

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  4. Re:Is the Matrix really appropriate now? by Chairboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Each time you decide to short stock, not travel, or condemn a movie sequence based on what happened 9-11-01, you are providing validation to the terrorists that performed that act by allowing them to control your actions.

    Patriots, spend money! Watch movies with exploding buildings! Go on a vacation! Don't let these bastards win, control your own destiny!

  5. Re:Is the Matrix really appropriate now? by 2Flower · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't THINK you're trolling, so...

    In the first film, the helicopter crash is accidental. They're using the helicopter as a mobile gunmount to free Morpheus, and it goes down when the AGENTS shoot at it and they have to bail out or die.

    It's all about the intention; this is different than the New Line direct to video movie that got released last week about terrorists hijacking a plane specifically to fly it into a city. Airborne vehicle + building isn't always a WTC reference. If we're going this far to look for inappropriate content, it's time to think twice.

  6. Sequels... by Junta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't see how the Matrix lends itself at all to a sequel. It was a pretty intriguing movie with some interesting questions. Can the sequels hope to acheive anything close to the same level of intrigue and interest with the closure of the first movie in mind, or will it simply be a cheap grab for more boxoffice bucks?

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    1. Re:Sequels... by dragons_flight · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right, you can't really tell the same story since the audience has already seen the Matrix and Neo has become what he was destined to be. You might however tell a different story in that universe. For instance the Matrix is still firmly covering the eyes of most of the population. The AIs, while perhaps having something to fear, are still the dominant player in the Matrix itself. The sequel might even try to offer more details about the "real" world they are living in.

      My guess is that the sequel will be focused on the war between man and machine on a broader scale, and possibly the awakening of more of humanity. They can't tell the same stories, but they might still do a very good job if they find the right kind of story to tell in that universe.

    2. Re:Sequels... by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 3, Informative
      I don't see how the Matrix lends itself at all to a sequel.

      Actually, I remember reading that the Wachowski brothers said that the main point of the first Matrix was to set the stage for sequels. They wanted to have characters that possessed superpowers in a believable way (and the first Matrix did indeed set the stage for this). I'm taking it as a good omen for the sequels that even the bridge (the original Matrix) that they wrote to their central plot was so exceptionally good.

    3. Re:Sequels... by dswensen · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, ultimately, the original was a cheap grab for box-office bucks, as are all movies. Moviemaking is a business, of which entertainment is a by-product.

      However, if you can get a good writer or director that can act as a skillful intermediary between the "money-grubbing" studios and the demanding audience, you can sometimes end up with a good story, or at least a story worth telling and exploring further.

      The Wachowski Brothers are behind the sequels, and in their interviews they seem to have a lot of love for the material. I think that will go a long way towards making worthy sequels.

      My favorite moment in the Matrix DVD interview with the Wachowski brothers is when you see Joel Silver and Laurence Fishburne talking about the film:

      "The Matrix is about humanity, and about love, and hope, and what it means to be a person..."

      Cut to the Wachowski brothers:

      "The Matrix is about robots vs. kung fu."

      I don't think Matrix was ever intended to be a particularly high-concept movie, and if people go to the sequels expecting to see the wheel reinvented a second time, I'm sure they'll be disappointed. If they go expecting robots vs. kung fu, then it'll be a worthy sequel.

      My point here is not so much "keep your expectations low" as "don't try to make the franchise into something it's not." The original had a nice surprise that a few people didn't expect. I wouldn't go into a sequel expecting the world to get turned on its ear again.

    4. Re:Sequels... by actiondan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't see how the Matrix lends itself at all to a sequel.

      There are some issues that a good Matrix sequel could explore. For instance, the question of whether freedom is worth the price of the tough life outside of the Matrix. If people knew what they were in for, would they agree to leave the matrix? If they would not agree, is it right to 'free' them by detroying the matrix? Are the freedom fighters actually working against peoples best interests without their consent?

      I think the issue of freedom Vs a (generally) better life inside the the matrix could give Matrix sequels some really interesting angles to look at. Maybe The One isn't the saviour of mankind after all...

    5. Re:Sequels... by JahToasted · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well think about it for a second... Is the "real" world where humanity has to live in the sewers and the machines rule, or is that just another matrix to escape from. Are the machines using people for power? It seems to me to run a sophisticated AI which would be needed to create a matrix you would need a lot of processing power. People only use a small percentage of their brains... what if the machines weren't using our body heat to power them, but our brain power as CPU's. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of human brains if you will. Seems the fusion power is enough to give them the electricity they need, but the human brain is probably yhe most efficient processor they could find.

      Also the AI said that humans want life to be difficult. If they were smart, they would have a multi-layered matrix. If you find life too easy, you can figure out a way to get to the matrix which exists outside the matrix and be able to live in an even more miserable world. If that is the case maybe it's not even machines which control the matrices, maybe its something else.

      But then again, I'm probably overthinking this. They'll probably just make it like the first one but put in more explosions and more kung fu. Oh well.

      will it simply be a cheap grab for more boxoffice bucks?

      of course it will be... but will it be entertaining?

  7. Positive Uses for Encryption by Bonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even Neo would have trouble cracking into the system that uses "Triple DES encryption over network, PGP CAST 128 encryption on disk, firewall, [and] intrusion detection."

    I bet Trinity could slice and dice it in just a few days, tho...

    Seriously, it's great to see encryption mentioned in anything other than a 'Only Terrorist Use Encryption' context.

    It's a good time to start using encryption just for the sake of using it. Abilities that are not excercised tend to atrophy. If enough people see that its good to exercise crypto in this manner, we'll have a lot more people install it and grow used to the feeling of security it will give them.

    Even MS Outlook users can use PGP...

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  8. quite a change since Tron by AssFace · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I was in college I interned briefly (more of a class really) at Kliezer Walzack (sp?) Construction Company (I think they are www.kwcc.com).

    it was a husband and wife team and they did some micheal jackson vids, judge dread, the spiderman ride at universal and I think Honey I blew up the Kids... all bad films, but cool special effects. At the time, Jeff Lew was there - he is a huge name in the character animation field.

    anyway, Jeff (Klisier - again I don't know how to spell it) was one of the owners and his first real film was Tron. According to him, they'd program all the efffects, then never really see them until the process of putting the data to film was complete, then the film would be mailed back to them, they'd watch it, and then make corrections. It was amazing how well and how fast they did it all considering that was the case.

    eveyrthing is now net based, so this isn't as big a deal - a much bigger deal that the whole movie is done this way - but as far as adding in digital efects, they've been doing it for awhile now (Sending the stuff over the net that is).

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  9. Re:any word on who is replacing Aliyah? by rkischuk · · Score: 3, Informative

    thematrixonline reports that rumored replacements include Stacey Dash (from Clueless) and Brandy Norwood (singer, star of Moesha).

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  10. Re:Australia? by JungleBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Australia has the largest sound stage in the world. The second largest one is in England, but the Australian one is cheaper to use. Lucas and company made comments about this while making The Phanton Menace. A Huge sound stage is obviously a requirement for doing some of the large scale CG scenes that are found in the matrix and TPM.

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  11. Confirmed: Gloria Foster, the Oracle, dead by Freshman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gloria Foster, the actress who played the Oracle, died last weekend. She finished most of her role in the sequels.

    May she rest in peace...

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  12. Same goes for Star Wars, right? by John+Harrison · · Score: 5, Interesting
    After Star Wars Luke had gained "superpowers" and destroyed the Death Star, freeing the galaxy from evil, right? So why bother with two sequels? (The prequel, btw, struck me as a money-grab.)

    The Matrix left more questions unanwered than Star Wars and really presented a much smaller victory if you think about it. So Neo can fly around in the Matrix now, big deal. Can he free humanity? Can he defeat the machines in the real world?

    I think the movie left plenty of interesting questions unanswered and there is still room for the sequels to ask more. Even if the new movies aren't as interesting as the first they will still have lots of sfx and kung-fu magic which will be more than enough to attract a large percentage of the /. crowd.

  13. They need at least one sequel by roystgnr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just to explain the gaping plothole:

    "They're powered by batteries made out of people! PEOPLE!!!

    ...

    Oh, yeah, and they have cheap cold fusion."

    "But Morpheus, why do they need human batteries if they have..."

    "Shut up and watch the pretty VR, Neo."

  14. You have been SO overmoderated. by smirkleton · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Why is this moderated up to 5?

    A dumb assumption based on nothing more than the author's own admitted lack of vision for the sequels?

    It was intended, from the beginning, to be a trilogy.

    The authors have barely scratched the surface of their own mythology. Did you feel that the end of the film rendered sequels impossible? Remember the final quote, with Neo addressing the creators of the Matrix which STILL enslaves almost all of humankind?
    "Neo: I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls, borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you."

    The entire film is simply a set-up so that the sequels can TELL THE STORY OF THE ATTEMPTS OF A SMALL-GROUP OF SELF-AWARE REBELS TO LIBERATE A HUMAN POPULATION FROM MENTAL CAPTIVITY. In short, THE STORY HASN'T BARELY EVEN BEGUN YET.

    As you may or may not know, the film- in addition to being one bad-azz science-fiction masterpiece- is a profound philosophical statement, as well. It is a message to YOU and to ME, about our OWN captivity by OUR MEDIA, which represents a FALSE version of reality that most assume to be TRUE. The Matrix is real- it is being fed to us through television sets 24/7. It is being delivered to us every morning by the paperboy. It is being used to create WANT, so that CORPORATIONS can SELL products we don't NEED but CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT.

    In order to hope to escape it, we must first know that it exists- and that it is distinct from the existence we assume to be real.

    SPOILER ALERT.

    "The Matrix" sequels are going to touch upon many subjects it hadn't yet addressed in the first. We already know that much of what will be taking place to propel the plot will be sci-fi versions of "culture jamming"- in which the lucid rebels use the tools of the Matrix to waken the sleeping citizenry. Television sets which help to keep the population dumb and entertained ( in both the films and in our real world) might suddenly be overrided by the hackers- so that unexpected, jarring programming comes through- perhaps warning them of their enslavement, or of the reality of the Matrix, or whatever...

    There are acts of culture-jamming going on all around us right now. They aren't simply random, unrelated happenings like some dork running onto the stage at the Grammys naked with the words "SOY BOMB" on his chest. They are a part of a movement, one that you might not even be aware of but should be. A movement to fight an enemy common to all of us.

    Give the sequels the benefit of the doubt. If you want to speculate about spurious sequels for the express purpose of generating major bucks at the box office, get out your light sabre and take a few swings at George Lucas.

    Here endeth the lesson.
  15. Filmmaking is an artform. Hollywood, a business. by smirkleton · · Score: 3

    Cheap grab for box-office bucks? Hardly.

    First, you assert rather blatantly and incorrectly that "movie-making is a business, of which entertainment is a by-product". Filmmaking is an artform. Hollywood is an industry which uses and very often abuses the artform in the pursuit of wealth. The establishment within Hollywood largely, but not exclusively, pursues films which cost less to make than they can probably be assumed to gross. The artform, then, often suffers, because marketing forces affect both the sort of films which are made, and frequently the way in which films are made.

    Having clarified that, let us move on.

    Filmmaking is an artform, and certain films are universally recognized as being fantastic works of art- regardless of the processes or powers that created them. You can not look at many of the masterpieces of modern cinema and pretend otherwise. Tell me, was "Taxi Driver" a cheap-grab for box-office bucks? "Citizen Kane"? "Sex, Lies and Videotape"? "Run Lola Run"? "This Is Spinal Tap"?

    Few films are both artistic masterpieces and box-office blockbusters. Nevertheless, some films are, and it is elitist and cynical to be dismissive of high art that just happens to be popular and financially successful.

    "The Matrix" is, regardless of your somewhat low-regard for the film, a true masterpiece of science-fiction. Yes, the creators of the film offhandedly said the "Matrix is about robots vs. kung fu". That comment was a humble, joking hypersimplification. Sorry if you missed that.

    Do some reading. Consider Simulacra and Simulations for starters (a book which Neo has early in the film). Read up on Culture Jamming. There is a war underway, RIGHT NOW, for the control of the minds of mankind. "The Matrix" is a film which addresses that very subject- co-opting the form of a shoot-them-up-sci-fi-FX-supermovie in order to make a bigger point than most of you seem to have realized.

    The 60s were a period of great civil unrest and cultural change. Many great films of the day reflected the social upheaval our nation experienced- touching on the subjects of the civil rights (for minorities and women), the counter-culture, etc.

    As we speak, a new war rages- but it is a quiet war, an invisible one. The war is being waged by corporate interests, using media and advertising, to create and control a complete version of reality, one which allows them to encourage endless consumption and one that discourages them from questioning the reality. The rebellion is being fought by individuals and groups that realize that the consumption culture is creating empty shells of all of us. It is isolating us from family and community.

    The rebellion has no leader- it has no center. It is a thousand small pockets of rebellion, each attempting to use novel means to awaken others to the war. Noteworthy authors include Thomas Frank (One Market Under God), Adbusters, Neil Postman ("The Disappearance of Childhood" and "Amusing Ourselves to Death"), Mark Osborn ("More" (a FANTASTIC short film)and so many, many others.

    The film "The Matrix" is a part of this movement. It isn't just a cool sci-fi. Yes, the film is being marketed and used by the Producer Joel Silver to generate a serious mint. The system is necessarily co-opted to subsidize the creation of the expensive, incredibly complex work. Is this hypocritical? You decide. Do the ends justify the means? I would say yes. I'd rather see "The Matrix" realized as a $100M work than see what the Brothers would've been able to come up with using only the money they made painting houses and doing their first film, "Bound".

    Watch the movie again with these facts in mind. Research the culture-jamming movement and read everything you can if you want to be a part of the fight. If you don't, at least be aware that it is being waged- and that you minds are the spoils if the powers win the war.