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Intel Tualatin Processors and Motherboard Support?
IntelIntrique asks: "I became intrigued when I learned about the new P3 Tualatin processors with a 512K cache, but was disappointed to learn that they require specific new motherboards to support the chips (Intel claims voltage changes). However, HotHardware features a review where they use one of these new processors in an Intel D815EEA2 motherboard, one that Intel shows as not supporting the new processor. What gives?"
"I have an D815EEA2, and I'd love to grab one of these new processors, but not if it means buying a new motherboard. Is Intel trying to prevent existing motherboard owners from cashing in on this new super chip? Are there any other slashdotters who have tried these new P3's in older motherboards with success? I'm mainly concerned with people using the processors in Intel boards, since it seems as though Intel would be in a unique position to know what types of new chips might be around the corner, and build unofficial support into early board revs."
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.26 to .18 (mobile)), and didn't require a new board. I'm using one right now.
Intel makes the p4 and charge 5x for the same performing Athlon. The P3s were reasonably priced, but intel had competition then. Now that the p4 is out, there is no Mhz competition so they jack the prices up.
AMD boards have previously been able to take a die shrink (The k6s went from
There is no real reason why intel couldn't have made the chip so it works with the old boards.
If the new P3s would have worked... it would have had the same performance of a 1.7 p4, and that would hurt P4 sales... intel doesn't want that. They are doing everything to make the P4 look like a great chip.
They are ripping you off, plain and simple.
Probably much more interesting is that the tualatin core has shown a lot more promise than current P4s. This review (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010919/inde x.html) over at Toms shows how a measly 1.2 tualatin holds it's own with the P4.. and overclocked to 1.5 it can be see that it has much more potential than the P4, even with the P4 running on rambus and the P3 on SDRAM! At the end of that review Tom mentions how the tualatin core is capable of 'much higher clock speeds', but it seems Intel is keeping them down because they don't want it to compete with it's 'Big Brother', however underachieving he is.
Personally I have ordered myself a Tualatin 1.2, I choose it over the P4 offerings.
So is it stable under linux, unlike AMD's crap?
Their Irongate / AGP issues, which have been known for NINE FUCKING MONTHS now, are driving me back to Intel. I can't type 'startx' without first doing an emergency disc-sync in case the whole system locks hard. And it usually does. Well done AMD. I know support the more expensive and most likely technologically inferior Intel chips over your unstable crap.