Given the broad network nature of WoW, why did you decide to use TCP/IP instead of something a bit more performance oriented, like UDP? I understand that UDP is not loseless but for things like char positions would it really have mattered? Wouldn't the lower overhead have been more desirable, costs and bandwidth wise?
We were frequently having these debates at my company. We decided upon an easy, non-disputable resolution. Look up both words on google, count the hits, and use the most prevalent one.
And offtopic, well, mostly. But the way I figure it.../. has a ton of web serving capability, why don't they mirror sites before posting stories so that everyone could read them? They could even have a 'originally at http://...' frame on top like google does for it's cached pages. Sure would make reading/. stories a lot easier:)
Whoo Hoo! I want to buy some bath and beauty products.. er, I mean, I wanted to see some nifty perl desktop. Instead, I think I see an elaborate spam scheme using innocent slashdot users. Very imaginative, I'll give the perpetrator that.
Our shop here too has seen it's share of AMD chips go south. I personally am afraid to buy one. I can't say anything about the new XP chips, and that wasn't the chip Tom was reviewing either, but the older chips are just seconds from being useless garbage without serious cooling. I had a 1200 fry just into the BIOS, because I didn't put enough heatsink compound. Yes, there was a cooler and fan, but the compound was only covering about half the chip. Booted, a few seconds later, sizzle sizzle, garbage. We run several servers, ONE has a athlon in it and it sits right beside us with a thermal probe and temp readout on the front. Even with a $70 heatsink/fan (hedgehog) I don't want to run the thing with the sides of the case on. It's just too damn hot.
Maybe the XPs are better, I sure hope AMD fixed that problem because it sucks. As for the naming scheme.. well that's a whole other subject. (*Cough* Cyrix *Cough*).
I just had to comment on this... I am a graphics professional myself and the one thing that has always bugged me about photoshop was how it handled fonts. To start with, it's quite hard to find the perfect font you want without some clever mouse manipulation, and even if you do find the one you want, be happy if PS doesn't die on you when you select it. Yes, it dies completely because it can't handle the font file.. so some would be quick to blame the font for PS crashing. However, I wrote a small VB app in about 15 minutes to let me see and make a list of fonts very quickly.. and I use that to pick my fonts. It has never crashed.. even on the same fonts PS does. (Which, co-incidently, I'm releasing open-source).
Another point.. I actually get paid to do graphic design et al., and people seem to be happy with my work.. and I hold a computing science degree. So I think there are some who can be artistic, and coders, at the same time. If you insist on separating the two then I say you are lacking in talent, or just haven't tried. Look up 'The Art of Programming'.. it's a good book.
I agree with you that the traditional business model is a viable option for some projects.
However, I have a hard time thinking that Linux itself would have received any kind of funding at it's inception. Open-Source allows you to do away with what other people think, and do something on your own. The model of business plan-funding-IPO is great, so long as your project follows the accepted public 'Norm'. Anything a bit quirky, a bit off-the-beaten-path, innovative, even, is extremely difficult to find funding for.
Not to mention that most funding agents expect some say in your project (and why shouldn't they? it's their money) so it ceases, at least on some level, to be 'your' project any more.
The IPO model has it's place, for sure. But it's not the best solution for every project. You have to evaluate the pros and cons, just like anything else.
I first must confess that I don't understand what the Bazaar model consists of, but I think it sounds like something akin to 'anarchy'.
Personally, I don't see a project getting off the ground this way, at least not with any semblance of a coherant project.
I also lead an Open-Source project (shameless plug: jspShop) but we are definately proceeding in a structured manner. Perhaps this is some kind of outdated model that is staying around from corporate example, but I can't really think what else we could do. In society at large, even, we have 'leaders' to guide our development.
I don't see it as a bad thing.. I think without some top-level guidance a project would, at best, lose efficiency. I wish I could remember who it was that said this in a previous slashdot post, but I can't. I'll paraphrase it here:
'Tell me what gets things done faster.. talking about implementing ideas, or implementing them'
(I think it was the AtheOS guy? Can't remember).
Anyways, the long and the short of it is.. I think top-level guidance leads to an efficient product with specific goals met. Sure it might aggrevate some people.. but they are free to take the source and turn it into what they want as well. (Ala phpNuke - PostNuke).
Penny Arcade had some interesting things to say about the 'future' of gaming as well. I have to agree with him.. where exactly did the whole VR concept go? I can relate to the specific VR game he's talking about, I stood in line for an hour to get up on a platform and be confused for about one minute.
The reason for the new motherboards is because the chipsets have to recognize a lack of voltage on pin AF36, so that they run the chip at 1.25v. Otherwise, they will run at 1.5v. That should answer all the questions.. yes the tualatins should run in older boards, however it will be at a higher voltage than specified. There are a bunch of other new pinouts (and not NEW pins), for full details, see Toms Hardware
This doesn't seem to be true. All the tualatins, regardless of cache size, need the new motherboards. The evidence is in pin AF36. This pin allows the chipset to recognize the processor. If AF36 has vss voltage, it is a PIII coppermine and the chipset will run the chip at 1.5v. Otherwise, without voltage on AF36 the chipset will see it as a tualatin and run it at 1.25v. As any overcloker will tell you, yes you can run a chip at a higher voltage than specified. It just doesn't do anything for processor life. So, while a tualatin may work (there are 9 other new pins to deal with) in a older motherboard, it will run at 1.5 volts.
I don't claim to be a guru. I do, however, claim to be a consumer, and I've been one for some time now. From what I've seen, it looks like Intel purposefully kept the Tualatin down so as to not generate internal competition for the P4. I could compare it to a car manufacturer.. say they have a 5.0 liter motor that makes 500 horsepower, wow you say, that's some motor. Then then come out with a 3.0 liter motor that makes 400 horsepower, except they charge you more for it and they only put it in their lower end vehicles. Why do that? Obviously the 3.0 liter was doing something right... why not continue on that line of research and come up with something truly great, instead of worrying about how it's going to look next to the 5.0 liter! (Ignore gas mileage, et al... it's an example, not a parallel),
So, from a consumer point of view, using the only tools I have at my disposal, and my own sense of reason, it appears to me that this is what Intel is doing with the Tualatin. It's as though it could be great, but will never be so, because of a marketing decision. Perhaps, that was also the reason for requiring a new motherboard. I don't know, this is all conjecture.
I think you misunderstood my post. What I am asking is; why did Intel even come out with the Tualatin?
It really doesn't make sense from any point of view I can think of. What I think would have made more sense would have been for Intel to realize that they've got something good here with the tualatin (the benchmarks are impressive!) and took that ball and ran with it.
I don't claim to be a chip engineer, but from what I see in empirical analysis the tualatin is doing something right. Imagine if they would have paired it with rambus, or something equally as performance oriented. That would have been some chip! Instead, they've released it under the P4 and kept the clock speeds under the P4 and the prices above the P4.. why they would do such a thing is purely up to speculation, but it would seem that they don't want this new 'wonder child' to compete with their 'star player', the P4, even though it seems to have that ability.
Probably much more interesting is that the tualatin core has shown a lot more promise than current P4s. This review (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010919/inde x.html) over at Toms shows how a measly 1.2 tualatin holds it's own with the P4.. and overclocked to 1.5 it can be see that it has much more potential than the P4, even with the P4 running on rambus and the P3 on SDRAM! At the end of that review Tom mentions how the tualatin core is capable of 'much higher clock speeds', but it seems Intel is keeping them down because they don't want it to compete with it's 'Big Brother', however underachieving he is.
Personally I have ordered myself a Tualatin 1.2, I choose it over the P4 offerings.
You can also go out and buy a distribution of linux. Do you think this means you have the right to sell any software included in that distribution? Or more clearly, do you think that buying it makes what is contained within 'yours', to do with as you please?
The answer to this is simple, and I would have thought that this would have been a non-issue to any slashdotter..
The skinny of it is this: you don't own the software you bought. You purchased a license to use the software. And in M$'s case, your license does not include transfer ability.
Is this strange? No, and it's pretty much the same as have a driving license, or most any other license for that matter. (In the general sense.. don't get picky here).
Seems to me like the license does exactly what it's supposed to, and he is opposed to that. Kind of like saying: "I don't like the color blue because it's blue!"
Maybe what he's looking for is some form of the OAL based on the LGPL.. but that's not what the OAL is all about. It doesn't say every musician has to produce under the OAL.. it says that if you want your music to be free (for everyone), the OAL is a good choice.
I don't think his critisism is a critisism at all.. it's a very good summation of the points of the OAL.
The Canadian tax on CDs is no different than any other tax.. regardless that SOME people might only use CD-R to burn backups or such, you still pay the tax because you live in the country. Tell me the last time the government went around and asked every single person if they used the roads, the phone lines, might ever need employment insurance, ect. Of course that will never happen. So don't complain that you don't use CD-Rs for the purpose they are being taxed on, because that argument is no more valid than someone saying they never drive and so don't want to pay the portion of their tax that goes to road repair.
However, you would have a valid argument if you were to say that NO ONE uses the roads, then of course, NO ONE should pay that tax. So, if NO ONE copied retail music onto their CDs, then NO ONE should pay that tax. However, we all know that the majority of people DO burn such things, so what do we do, make it illegal and throw everyone in jail? Or just pay the damn few cents a CD?
It's called SANE, which stands for Scanner Access Now Easy. I run my older p-port scanner in it no problems, access it from a windows box on the network. Sweet stuff. Even use it to send faxes to hylafax.
Slashdot Mirror
Given the broad network nature of WoW, why did you decide to use TCP/IP instead of something a bit more performance oriented, like UDP? I understand that UDP is not loseless but for things like char positions would it really have mattered? Wouldn't the lower overhead have been more desirable, costs and bandwidth wise?
We were frequently having these debates at my company. We decided upon an easy, non-disputable resolution. Look up both words on google, count the hits, and use the most prevalent one.
For Flavour/Flavor, that would be:
Flavour: 771,000
Flavor: 2,740,000
No contest.
And offtopic, well, mostly. But the way I figure it... /. has a ton of web serving capability, why don't they mirror sites before posting stories so that everyone could read them? They could even have a 'originally at http://...' frame on top like google does for it's cached pages. Sure would make reading /. stories a lot easier :)
Whoo Hoo! I want to buy some bath and beauty products.. er, I mean, I wanted to see some nifty perl desktop. Instead, I think I see an elaborate spam scheme using innocent slashdot users. Very imaginative, I'll give the perpetrator that.
I believe you meant to say "Heads roll", as opposed to "Heads role".
You probably also meant to say "right on the mark" as opposed to "utterly stupid", but that's just conjecture on my part.
Our shop here too has seen it's share of AMD chips go south. I personally am afraid to buy one. I can't say anything about the new XP chips, and that wasn't the chip Tom was reviewing either, but the older chips are just seconds from being useless garbage without serious cooling. I had a 1200 fry just into the BIOS, because I didn't put enough heatsink compound. Yes, there was a cooler and fan, but the compound was only covering about half the chip. Booted, a few seconds later, sizzle sizzle, garbage. We run several servers, ONE has a athlon in it and it sits right beside us with a thermal probe and temp readout on the front. Even with a $70 heatsink/fan (hedgehog) I don't want to run the thing with the sides of the case on. It's just too damn hot.
Maybe the XPs are better, I sure hope AMD fixed that problem because it sucks. As for the naming scheme.. well that's a whole other subject. (*Cough* Cyrix *Cough*).
I just had to comment on this... I am a graphics professional myself and the one thing that has always bugged me about photoshop was how it handled fonts. To start with, it's quite hard to find the perfect font you want without some clever mouse manipulation, and even if you do find the one you want, be happy if PS doesn't die on you when you select it. Yes, it dies completely because it can't handle the font file.. so some would be quick to blame the font for PS crashing. However, I wrote a small VB app in about 15 minutes to let me see and make a list of fonts very quickly.. and I use that to pick my fonts. It has never crashed.. even on the same fonts PS does. (Which, co-incidently, I'm releasing open-source).
Another point.. I actually get paid to do graphic design et al., and people seem to be happy with my work.. and I hold a computing science degree. So I think there are some who can be artistic, and coders, at the same time. If you insist on separating the two then I say you are lacking in talent, or just haven't tried. Look up 'The Art of Programming'.. it's a good book.
I agree with you that the traditional business model is a viable option for some projects.
However, I have a hard time thinking that Linux itself would have received any kind of funding at it's inception. Open-Source allows you to do away with what other people think, and do something on your own. The model of business plan-funding-IPO is great, so long as your project follows the accepted public 'Norm'. Anything a bit quirky, a bit off-the-beaten-path, innovative, even, is extremely difficult to find funding for.
Not to mention that most funding agents expect some say in your project (and why shouldn't they? it's their money) so it ceases, at least on some level, to be 'your' project any more.
The IPO model has it's place, for sure. But it's not the best solution for every project. You have to evaluate the pros and cons, just like anything else.
I first must confess that I don't understand what the Bazaar model consists of, but I think it sounds like something akin to 'anarchy'.
Personally, I don't see a project getting off the ground this way, at least not with any semblance of a coherant project.
I also lead an Open-Source project (shameless plug: jspShop) but we are definately proceeding in a structured manner. Perhaps this is some kind of outdated model that is staying around from corporate example, but I can't really think what else we could do. In society at large, even, we have 'leaders' to guide our development.
I don't see it as a bad thing.. I think without some top-level guidance a project would, at best, lose efficiency. I wish I could remember who it was that said this in a previous slashdot post, but I can't. I'll paraphrase it here:
'Tell me what gets things done faster.. talking about implementing ideas, or implementing them'
(I think it was the AtheOS guy? Can't remember).
Anyways, the long and the short of it is.. I think top-level guidance leads to an efficient product with specific goals met. Sure it might aggrevate some people.. but they are free to take the source and turn it into what they want as well. (Ala phpNuke - PostNuke).
Penny Arcade had some interesting things to say about the 'future' of gaming as well. I have to agree with him.. where exactly did the whole VR concept go? I can relate to the specific VR game he's talking about, I stood in line for an hour to get up on a platform and be confused for about one minute.
Penny Arcade News (VR)
Seeing as no one has mentioned this yet...
The reason for the new motherboards is because the chipsets have to recognize a lack of voltage on pin AF36, so that they run the chip at 1.25v. Otherwise, they will run at 1.5v. That should answer all the questions.. yes the tualatins should run in older boards, however it will be at a higher voltage than specified. There are a bunch of other new pinouts (and not NEW pins), for full details, see Toms Hardware
Sorry, I meant new pinouts, not 10 additional pins. Here's the skinny:
New Pinouts
This doesn't seem to be true. All the tualatins, regardless of cache size, need the new motherboards. The evidence is in pin AF36. This pin allows the chipset to recognize the processor. If AF36 has vss voltage, it is a PIII coppermine and the chipset will run the chip at 1.5v. Otherwise, without voltage on AF36 the chipset will see it as a tualatin and run it at 1.25v. As any overcloker will tell you, yes you can run a chip at a higher voltage than specified. It just doesn't do anything for processor life. So, while a tualatin may work (there are 9 other new pins to deal with) in a older motherboard, it will run at 1.5 volts.
I don't claim to be a guru. I do, however, claim to be a consumer, and I've been one for some time now. From what I've seen, it looks like Intel purposefully kept the Tualatin down so as to not generate internal competition for the P4. I could compare it to a car manufacturer.. say they have a 5.0 liter motor that makes 500 horsepower, wow you say, that's some motor. Then then come out with a 3.0 liter motor that makes 400 horsepower, except they charge you more for it and they only put it in their lower end vehicles. Why do that? Obviously the 3.0 liter was doing something right... why not continue on that line of research and come up with something truly great, instead of worrying about how it's going to look next to the 5.0 liter! (Ignore gas mileage, et al... it's an example, not a parallel),
So, from a consumer point of view, using the only tools I have at my disposal, and my own sense of reason, it appears to me that this is what Intel is doing with the Tualatin. It's as though it could be great, but will never be so, because of a marketing decision. Perhaps, that was also the reason for requiring a new motherboard. I don't know, this is all conjecture.
I think you misunderstood my post. What I am asking is; why did Intel even come out with the Tualatin?
It really doesn't make sense from any point of view I can think of. What I think would have made more sense would have been for Intel to realize that they've got something good here with the tualatin (the benchmarks are impressive!) and took that ball and ran with it.
I don't claim to be a chip engineer, but from what I see in empirical analysis the tualatin is doing something right. Imagine if they would have paired it with rambus, or something equally as performance oriented. That would have been some chip! Instead, they've released it under the P4 and kept the clock speeds under the P4 and the prices above the P4.. why they would do such a thing is purely up to speculation, but it would seem that they don't want this new 'wonder child' to compete with their 'star player', the P4, even though it seems to have that ability.
Probably much more interesting is that the tualatin core has shown a lot more promise than current P4s. This review (http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010919/inde x.html) over at Toms shows how a measly 1.2 tualatin holds it's own with the P4.. and overclocked to 1.5 it can be see that it has much more potential than the P4, even with the P4 running on rambus and the P3 on SDRAM! At the end of that review Tom mentions how the tualatin core is capable of 'much higher clock speeds', but it seems Intel is keeping them down because they don't want it to compete with it's 'Big Brother', however underachieving he is.
Personally I have ordered myself a Tualatin 1.2, I choose it over the P4 offerings.
Hear Hear
:)
User Interfaces should bend to fit the user and not the other way around.
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interesting. It keeps putting that space in there by itself. Slashcode bug? I don't know. Anyways, you can all figure it out, I'm sure.
Sorry, don't know how that space got in there. This is the correct link:
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http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/573c.s
Check out the latest:
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http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/573c.s
It's also a good example of yet another style of internet map, different from those shown in the wired story.
You can also go out and buy a distribution of linux. Do you think this means you have the right to sell any software included in that distribution? Or more clearly, do you think that buying it makes what is contained within 'yours', to do with as you please?
Of course not.
The answer to this is simple, and I would have thought that this would have been a non-issue to any slashdotter..
The skinny of it is this: you don't own the software you bought. You purchased a license to use the software. And in M$'s case, your license does not include transfer ability.
Is this strange? No, and it's pretty much the same as have a driving license, or most any other license for that matter. (In the general sense.. don't get picky here).
Seems to me like the license does exactly what it's supposed to, and he is opposed to that. Kind of like saying: "I don't like the color blue because it's blue!"
Maybe what he's looking for is some form of the OAL based on the LGPL.. but that's not what the OAL is all about. It doesn't say every musician has to produce under the OAL.. it says that if you want your music to be free (for everyone), the OAL is a good choice.
I don't think his critisism is a critisism at all.. it's a very good summation of the points of the OAL.
The Canadian tax on CDs is no different than any other tax.. regardless that SOME people might only use CD-R to burn backups or such, you still pay the tax because you live in the country. Tell me the last time the government went around and asked every single person if they used the roads, the phone lines, might ever need employment insurance, ect. Of course that will never happen. So don't complain that you don't use CD-Rs for the purpose they are being taxed on, because that argument is no more valid than someone saying they never drive and so don't want to pay the portion of their tax that goes to road repair.
However, you would have a valid argument if you were to say that NO ONE uses the roads, then of course, NO ONE should pay that tax. So, if NO ONE copied retail music onto their CDs, then NO ONE should pay that tax. However, we all know that the majority of people DO burn such things, so what do we do, make it illegal and throw everyone in jail? Or just pay the damn few cents a CD?
Check it out:
SANE
lots of nifty things, be sure to check out WinSane and XSane.
Have fun in linux.. say bye bye to window$(tm).