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HP, Apple Drop Support for Royalties on Web Standards

Medeii writes: "This article on CNET states that Apple and HP have both decided to withdraw their support for the recommendation. Both companies issued statements supporting the development of royalty-free web standards. Both were, interestingly, also authors of the current recommendation."

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  1. Re:What about Quicktime? by TotallyUseless · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple doesnt own Sorenson, it isnt theirs to relicense

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    Time for some tasty Shiner Bock!
  2. More info/links by hansk · · Score: 5, Informative

    There has been some good discussion and links related to this issue over at Dave Winer's scripting.com.

    Also, over at Zeldman's www.zeldman.com.

  3. Free Software Reps now on W3C Patent Policy Board by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have accepted a position on the W3C Patent Policy Board. One has also been offered to Eben Moglen of FSF, and I think he's accepted.

    Bruce Perens

  4. Re:Of course... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    HP wasn't ever for RAND. One of our attorneys, who lobbied for RF, got his name on the document, and that made it appear that we were for RAND.

    Bruce

  5. Because it's the best by cryptochrome · · Score: 3, Informative

    Quicktime is the first, the oldest, the most developed, and by far the best video architecture around (although the default codecs aren't the best, and the software implementations of the standard sometimes have bugs). Its ability to handle many different types of data is unparalelled - it's almost an operating system unto its own. That's why they picked it as the basis of the MPEG 4 standard. Now if only they'd come out with a linux version.

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    1. Re:Because it's the best by gig · · Score: 3, Informative

      QuickTime is the most complete multimedia there is, which is why MPEG-4 is based on it. Real has a server and a player, and Microsoft has a server, a player, and an OS monopoly, but QuickTime is in cameras, audio apps, music apps, Web authoring apps, animation tools, DVD authoring tools, DV editors, and open source streaming servers on every major platform. It supports almost every image, video, and audio format in existence, along with animated images and Flash movies. It has a built-in software synth with DLS. For $29 you can author with QuickTime Player Pro just by cutting and pasting and exporting. QuickTime is one of the major reasons why creative people use Macs. While Microsoft was trying to get their developers to support a GUI, Apple had their developers integrating their apps with QuickTime, so you can move media back and forth between apps as files or with the clipboard and get great results.

      Almost every video you can find on the Web was in QuickTime format at some point in it's life. There aren't any other vendors with this kind of technology. It may be possible to do digital video without Apple, but it's not something you'd do by choice.

      If you want to run QuickTime on Linux, here's how.

      Crossover Brings QuickTime to Linux

      Guys ... file the QuickTime-on-Linux stuff away with the one-button mouse crap and the entire phrase "proprietary hardware". You're only hurting yourselves by regurgitating all the Microsoft FUD we are forced to swallow every day. Shit it out, instead. Go to an Apple Store and touch some of this stuff. Apple is firing on all cylinders right now, and it's something to see. You can make movies and DVD's with drag and drop on a stable UNIX with ridiculous graphics and media support. It's outstanding. You could share one of these computers with your grandmother and both be happy.

  6. Re:Good for them by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 3, Informative
    I wonder what happened to make them change their minds. Corporations aren't usually known for doing the right thing simply because it's, well, the right thing.

    Interesting.

    Indeed.

    In this situation "THE RIGHT THING" and what would provide them with the best competitive advantage happily coincided. After all, MS is several years into developing royalty technology. Do HP and Apple really want to compete in a royalty environment with MS having a headstart on development?

    I think they thought about it and realized that they would only be feeding the beast by supporting royalty based standards. After all, MS has the most to gain from this. It's a simple mob tactic.

    After all, MS is taxing the OEM hardware/software, software vendor, business software and business OS/hardware markets. The next logical step in their racket is to try and get a stranglehold on the internet.

    Simple mob tactic. Identify opportunity. Enter market. Destroy competition, tax everybody you do business with, and make sure to box competitors out of the market, one way or the other.
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  7. Response from HP by dpol · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's an interesting interview at NEWS.COM with Jim Bell, director of standards and industry initiatives at Hewlett-Packard, titled "Why the W3C needs to be royalty free".

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    -- David Polberger Computer Science major, University of Lund, Sweden