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The Report of My Thermal Death Have Been...

A reader writes "Not too long ago, Tom's Hardware posted a video of the grisly events that take place when the heatsink is removed on an AMD Athlon MP 1.2GHz in an attempt to show that the chip has inadequate thermal protection unlike the Pentium 4. Apparently, this is not the case. This new video, which looks like was done by AMD, shows the system continuing to work when the heatsink is removed. Even 9 minutes of Quake3 without the fan operating wasn't enough to destroy the processor. So who is right? It's in AMD's best interest to show that their product doesn't disintigrate under extreme conditions. " Update: 10/30 14:11 GMT by H : Note that it was Terry 'quad3d' Wang that actually did the video - not AMDZone.

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  1. Re:My Experience With Linux by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I will be switching to VB immediately.

    Thank You.

    --

    Hail to the king, baby!
  2. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    of couse some karma whore is trying to get a first post in.

  3. "The Report of My Thermal Death Have Been..." by Luminair · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Do we speak english here at Slashdot anyore?

    I am not less perfect than Lor

    1. Re:"The Report of My Thermal Death Have Been..." by JanneM · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Do we speak english here at Slashdot anyore?

      "anyore"?

      /Janne

      --
      Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    2. Re:"The Report of My Thermal Death Have Been..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Shutup, Jane.

  4. Re:My Experience With Linux by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    BTW, do you like cheese?

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    Hail to the king, baby!
  5. just so you know by unformed · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    the video is a .wmv file .... forget about playing it on linux

  6. KARMA WHORE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    WHY don't you and yoUr Karma Kronies Konsider something else to do?

  7. Re:My Experience With Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What do you think of Mozzarelli?

  8. My Experience With Windows XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Because all operating systems are written by programmers, I assume that any operating system is much smarter than me. Thus, any good operating system should try to outsmart me by restricting my options at every turn. Linux, like all versions of Unix, is lousy at restricting my options because at the command line virtually any operation can be performed with ease. (For example, 'rm -rf /win' could 'delete an entire mounted directory, with no popup window warnings whatsoever.)

    I'm proud to say that there is no such danger in XP. Windows pop up when I want to make a change, and then more pop up to ask if I'm sure I want the change. Thankfully, Windows XP's operating system looks after my computer's well-being by occasionally switching configuration settings from the way I want them to what the OS programmers think they might probably ought to be. Boy, I'm just impressed with how smart they are. Once I learned to live with whatever the default settings are on any new hardware I install, I can't say the number of hours I have saved.

    I use that spare time to reboot my Windows XP machine multiple times a day. Technical support personnel recommend that I do it regularly-- kind of like brushing my teeth. To help remind me of this necessity, windows pop up to tell me to reboot whenever I make a configuration change. By now my machine is minty fresh, I figure.

    There is no such useful rebooting in a Linux system. It is as reliable as the sunrise, with uptimes in weeks and months. Virtually no configuration change requires a reboot, to boot. Imagine all that plaque in the computer. Gross!

    In XP I am prevented from making dangerous fundamental configuration changes unless I use a special "registry editor". I have found it so useful to have this separate editor that I hope in future versions they go all the way and supply a separate editor for each file on the disk-- in that way windows could pop up at every keystroke to warn me that changing any line in the file I am editing could cause the system to not run properly. If this were only the case, people would finally learn that it is best to just stick with the mouse and they would be freed of the need to constantly move their hands back to the keyboard. (If one stops to think about it, the mouse is a much better device to use than the keyboard. Ever hear of someone getting carpal tunnel syndrome from a mouse? No. It's comfortable and ergonomic. Like Morse code devices. That's how long distance communication started, after all.)

    Linux, by contrast, requires no special editor to change configuration files. The fact that there is no "registry" in Linux allows the abomination of using any text editor whatsoever to do the configuration. Can you believe that configuration files are usually stored clear text? Talk about dangerous!

    I am also happy to report that I have experienced no truth to the rumor that Windows disks become corrupt after improper shutdowns. Indeed, I have been forced to improperly shutdown the machine innumerable times after it locks up, and I have no apparent problems to report regarding the disk. No such claim can be made for Linux. They say something about lack of data points. Excuses are all I ever seem to hear from the Linux crowd.

    By sheer size alone, Windows XP beats Linux hands down. It is so much bigger, it is _obvious_ that it is better. Why would you want a small OS with the large disks and RAM sizes we have these days? For this reason alone, I heartily recommend Windows as a way to maximize resource utilization. Your CPU and disk will constantly be pegged to the limit, the way god intended. The Linux kernel and drivers accounts for only about 750KB. Why, even the Microsoft Win16 subsystem uses more space than that.

    It is no surprise that Windows XP costs $300 on the retail market and Linux doesn't cost anything. People know what they want, and they want Windows XP. Because Linux is free, that means it's basically worthless. The same goes for all the development tools, remotable GUIs, and applications, which all cost money for Windows (i.e., are worth something) and free for Linux (worthless!).

    Installing software is very easy in Windows XP. I usually slip in CDs without even reading instructions or warnings, and just double click on whatever window pops up. There is no need to read anything or touch the keyboard. (Did I mention that I hate that thing?) Well, OK, I have learned the hard way the machine locks up if I don't take the time to close all other applications.

    Linux, by contrast, requires typing on the keyboard to get anything to install at all. And you always have to know the NAME of program you want to install. For example, in Redhat, you have to type ``rpm -ivh ''to install the program and documentation. Linux needs to get with the 21st century!

    Windows XP follows the DOS convention of putting \r\n at the end of every line of a text file. While this is only a mild concern because of the relative rarity of text files on Windows machines these days-- thank god--it helps to differentiate between the text files and the other files. Sadly, Linux makes no distinction between text and other files.

    If I legitimately purchase Windows XP, I can call Microsoft customer support to get help with my problems. After a short hold time of an hour or so, they always help me. Ever since I told them that I was dual booting to Linux, they were able to flag my account and now each time I call even the entry level support personnel I am connected to say that Linux is the source of my problems. Everyone seems to agree that Linux is no good. The more I listen, the more I'm impressed with the knowledge of the support staff there.

    By contrast, in Linux, all I have is stockpiles of resources and documentation that I would actually have to read in order to understand. Sure, I could obtain Linux support from a commercial organization, but they would probably just tell me I have to use a text editor to fix up my system.

    In the end, I have no need for that old computer donkey Unix. I don't need to run big Unix tasks, after all. I refuse to become one of those a bug-eyed computer users, that's for sure. As soon as I can keep Windows XP from crashing for long enough, I'm going to delete my Linux partition, i.e., the equivalent of moving it to the recycle bin, saying that I'm sure, emptying the recycle bin, and again saying that I'm sure.

  9. Re:Athlon 1.4 by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    By the way, if you are looking for you right hand, I saw it in Budapest. No shit. Man, are they making a killing with it.

    --
    Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
  10. Re:My Experience With Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies
    Which companies?

    I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming.
    Kernel level stuff in VB? Right. Next you're going to tell us you have the 2000 source code. (hint: it's not in VB)

    I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C
    No. Please present evidence.

    I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries.
    Using experimental compilers isn't the way to build a reliable system, but of course as a successful consultant, you already knew that.

    I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool
    How, using the domain functionality of Samba? Where is your case study?

    The 3 machines all went into swap immediately
    Did you remember to put RAM in them?

    2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing!
    Bind and Apache cannot panic a kernel. Give me a situation that I can reproduce and I'll believe you, until then, keep shovelling.

    Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support
    You might want to check again on that one.

    "you get what you pay for."
    A box with a leaflet and a CD is worth $1300?

    the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
    You might want to check on that one again.

  11. damn those commie euro tt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yah, them and egg troll

  12. Re:Of course by abcdefg23562 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And Intel has never tried to make their products look good

    neither has Microsoft

    or Redhat I guess

    or IBM

    or Linksys

    or Pfizer

    Transmeta

    Sonic Foundry

    Pepsi

    Taco Bell

    anyone see a trend here?

  13. Re:My Experience With Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Pretty Prancing fairy princess!

  14. I love you egg troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Will you be my boy/girlfriend?

  15. Re:The Talibanana Song! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You gotta find the flash video for that, it's better than the all your base thing. And it has an extra verse in the video. It's like "uncle sams pissed off and he ain't no quaker, 50 foot, 60 foot, 70 foot crater, daylight come and we bomb your home". That is the funniest shit, i wish i bookmarked it.

    looks like cmdr. faggot banned my IP. what a fuckin cock-knocker.

  16. Excellent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Pardon me while I go wipe the tears from my eyes...

    1. Re:Excellent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Don't forget this one guy Dr. Prakesh something. He has the dopest trolls. He only shows up once in a while, but if you see one i bet it will be a classic. He comes of so real, no one can resist, sometimes i am almost wondering if he really is just some professor with no clue, but it can't be, it must be a troll, it's just to perfect. That guy is one of the most under rated trolls, he's like a troll stealth bomber or something. Alot of times he even gets modded up to like +2 or +3. Dr. Prakesh something-or-other i salute your sneaky troll tactics.

      Btw, nice troll up there, good work.

    2. Re:Excellent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Dr. Prakash Kothari. And thank you. Do a google search on the name for some fun.

  17. gcc 3.1 does not exist (yet) by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Any poster who claims to present benchmarks based on gcc 3.1 is either lying or incompetent. GCC 3.0.2 is the current release. GCC 3.1 is scheduled for release on 15 Apr 2002.

  18. Fuckin' DIVX by AnonymousCowheard · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    When are they going to make some more accurate videos using aalib.so?

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    But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
  19. sink? by 11+platter+hard+driv · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    When did the U.S.S. Heat sink?

  20. If I ever meet you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm gonna smash your face in.

    1. Re:If I ever meet you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Oooh! I'm sooo terrified! First you murder an innocent processor and now you're progressing to physical threats. Perhaps I should run and hide?

      The next time you're in Atlanta let me know and I'll be happy to give you your shot. Don't make me wait too long because I'll be quaking in fear for the forseeable future.

    2. Re:If I ever meet you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Ehh.. I didn't really type that. I burned my CPU but someone else wrote what you reacted on. I don't threat people..

      Nothing ticks me off like when people don't know what they are doing. Hehe.... Irony strikes back at you.

    3. Re:If I ever meet you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Hard to tell when everyone's an AC.

    4. Re:If I ever meet you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Well, no matter what, you are a very aggressive guy. Please try to calm yourself down. This is a discussion forum, not a boxing arena.

  21. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yo queiro taco bell!

    mm.... SALMONELLA

  22. Re:My Experience With Linux by WasterDave · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm missing out.

    Is there some troll-o-bot perl script kicking around? Have you had some kind of trolling archive from which to pick quotations?

    OMG. It's glorious, but - unfortunately - a shade obvious to be a real troll.

    Dave

    --
    I write a blog now, you should be afraid.
  23. This idiot will probabley sell it on eBay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    for mucho grande eh? Me no amigo.


    I bet you speak spanish you 'tard, spanish 'tard. what part of "heatsink required" do you not understand?

  24. who cares... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    btw, did somebody ever tried to spill beer (such as a full Bud) on their motherboard to see if it still works? That would be interesting (especially the associated drinking...)

  25. Where's the new troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dude, I love your trolls, but you said you were going to release a 'new uber troll' a week or so ago.

    Where is it? :P

  26. Re:The Talibanana Song! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    http://www.stileproject.com/taliban.html

    and

    http://www.stileproject.com/taliban2.html

    the second one is a million times funnier (and less crude) than the first one.