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OpenBSD 3.0 Ready for Pre-Orders

Posted by timothy on from the tight-security dept.

osiris writes: "Theo de Raadt has just announced that OpenBSD 3.0 is now accepting pre-orders. 3.0 will now be shipping with 3 cds supporting booting from cd for 6 architectures. Plus there is a bonus audio track on the cd :) Plus the all new pf firewall, which replaces Darren Reed's ipf. I hear pf is pretty rock solid with quite a few new features."

37 comments

  1. The release page by osiris · · Score: 3, Informative

    here is the release page as well. and here is the coverart.

    1. Re:The release page by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      The cover art is hella gay. Is Theo trying to save money by designing the art himself again??

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      cpeterso
  2. Someone told me that BSD was dying. by Anton+Anatopopov · · Score: -1, Troll
    I am sure I read somewhere that BSD is dying. I think I read it here in fact. So does this mean that BSD has a future ? Or is this sort of like one last heroic release before BSD files for chapter 11 ?

    I have to admit, I used to be a NetBSD user. I used to run 0.8 and 0.9 on my 486 DX2 66Mhz gateway. Man I used to think I was a real 'hacker'. The hardest thing in those days was getting it to recognize my non-standard sony cdu31a cdrom drive.

    It's all plug and play these days. Kids today don't have a clue what we went through :-)

    1. Re:Someone told me that BSD was dying. by kenfrid · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Don't listen to the trolls :-) First off, there are multiple BSD's out there. Not nearly as many as the Linux distros. I won't go into the differences here, that's beating a dead horse. I am a huge fan of all the BSD's. All of them have come a long way and are quite stable. The only one that I know of having any trouble is FreeBSD since WindRiver gave them the big boot. Now they're off on their own, which might actually be a good thing since they didn't seem all that interesting in open source development like BSDi was when they first purchased Walnut Creek CD-ROM.

      OpenBSD has been cranking out a release pretty solid every six months ever since I first messed with it at 2.5.

      NetBSD seems to be in good shape too. The developers seemed to be on their toes. Someone found a few large security holes in 1.5.1 and they had the fixes in the source tree in a couple of days and on CD as version 1.5.2 before some of the vendors could even push out their 1.5.1 CD's!

    2. Re:Someone told me that BSD was dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait


      !!
      You stupid twat. That is the infamous "*BSD is Dying" troll. "Kids today..."? Are you having a fucking laugh? I am guessing by your previous posts that you have yet to finish your education, you arrogant shit...
      !!

  3. I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of work has gone into pf, but I just don't trust a 6-month-old (and not even that) firewall. I plan on sticking with 2.9 for a few more releases while everything gets ironed out.

    1. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      I'll wait until 3.1 too; it's the same version that I started out on w/ windows, and that taught me all I need to know about that "OS". ;);)

    2. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by chris88 · · Score: 3, Informative
      3.0 is just as solid as every other OBSD release.

      No one said you had to use PF, you can go compile IPF and use it on your 3.0 install, no ones stopping you.

    3. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IPF won't compile on 3.0, and it's no longer part of the base system or ports. So much for that idea, huh?

    4. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Patches to make it work will be out within days of 3.0's release. If no one else does it, I will.

    5. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is supposed to be funny, right?

      I get it. Hahahaha. OpenBSD insecure... unstable... Haha. I get it. Very Ironical.

    6. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I was really quite serious. IPF has been around for years and is a honed project. I wouldn't trust PF to run my firewall, it was started less than 6 months ago. I've looked it over thoroughly, and it's pretty rough around the edges. Maybe in 3.1 I'll make the move.

    7. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by methodic · · Score: 1

      good, then dont run PF on your firewall, after all, it's only developed by the same people that bring you OpenBSD, so why should you trust it, right?

    8. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You BSD guys are so spoiled. If it ain't under /usr/ports, then "it won't compile"? Well, over here in the 3rd world, we use wget and configure before we type make. Sometimes we even have to diddle with the source a little. And yet we somehow manage to survive.

    9. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the same project with the ever-growing errata page of mistakes that the other BSDs caught and didn't ship? I really hope I don't need to explain that one.

    10. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by bstrahm · · Score: 2

      So I am sitting here with a single moderator point left... My question is is this comment +1 funny or -1 Troll...

      Damned, why can't I do a +2 Funny/Troll ???

      Merlyn

    11. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Complete FUD. Shut the hell up Troll.

    12. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You seem to think that creating a packet filter and NAT is rocket science, its not. IPF took so long because Darren was learning as he went along and because it had to be mangled to support many different OS's. Most of the people who are working on PF have done IPF hacking and know that it really is not as good as most people seem to think it is.

    13. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, really, FreeBSD and NetBSD shipped without 90% of the holes that OpenBSD missed. Ultra secure operating system, my ass.

    14. Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny. everyone says this, but no-one provides patches...

      Also funny. No-one bitches when Linux changes its firewall stack every stable kernel release.

  4. Natalie Portmans Boobies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Natalie Portman's perky boobies:

    BOOBIES

  5. license audit by JDizzy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    This is the fruit of the lisence audit OBSD went thru a while back. As many of you remember this was started when Theo elegantly let the world know abotu certain software not being intelectually free... so he simply yanked things out of the official ports tree, and reverse-engineered everything displaced by the vacume. Well now that the dramma is over, it is now safe to relase new features.

    I guess Theo really can piss further than anybody else in a pissing match.

    --
    It isn't a lie if you belive it.
    1. Re:license audit by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I guess Theo really can piss further than anybody else in a pissing match.

      I agree, and I think it's cool. Theo really puts his money where his mouth is. Say what you like about his social "skills," at least you know where he stands, and that he's certainly willing to follow through with what he believes in. Good guy to have on our side. :-)

      --
      "If he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he's sorely mistaken." Bush on bin Laden
  6. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Ntcraft Confirms: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, ths nws serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in th recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD hs steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    *BSD is dying

    1. Re:*BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The IPv6 stack has been developed on NetBSD. The problem, you see, is that idiots like you don't know what the BSD people are. They are developers, and theirs works reach far places in Sun, Microsoft and you can tell everything you want: BSD has been created from the Net Releases long ago before Linux, and it will be there when Linux is gone. BSD is the Unix. Unix made Internet.
      You're just a lamer.

      You think we CARE of what you think ?
      We don't give a damn nor a fuck. Stick with your prefered OS and let us live on BSD quietly. I don't choose an OS because it's the most used (this would mean using windows right now); I choose an OS for its QUALITIES.

      You understand that, dumb ass ?

      You're so stupid you think an OS is to be choosed because it's mainstream. How stupid you must really be to believe that way.

      Go Linux, go Microsoft, go rub yourself.

  7. Wierd timing by pdqlamb · · Score: 0, Redundant

    They've added alpha as a bootable architecture. Does anybody still make alpha machines anymore? And if they do, how long will it be before HPaq kills it off entirely?

    1. Re:Wierd timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Intel bought everything that is Alpha, and killed it.

      There will be no more Alpha anything. Whatever technology Intel can assimilate into the Pentium V or whateveron there next chip is is all you will see of the Alpha.

    2. Re:Wierd timing by Harpagon · · Score: 1
      They've added alpha as a bootable architecture. Does anybody still make alpha machines anymore?

      I don't want to break your fun, but out of the 10 architectures on the CD:

      • 5 are no longer produced: amiga, hp300, mac68k, sparc, vax
      • 2 are still sold but for how long?: alpha (Compact is droping alpha CPUs in favor of Intel 64bit CPU), mvme68k (Motorola new model of VME board use PowerPC cpus)
      • only 3 are actively produced: i386, macppc, sparc64
      Anyway, dead architectures are still very fun to play with. (Got a VAX and 2 SPARC.)
    3. Re:Wierd timing by pdqlamb · · Score: 1
      I don't want to break your fun, but out of the 10 architectures on the CD:

      5 are no longer produced: amiga, hp300, mac68k, sparc, vax

      2 are still sold but for how long?: alpha (Compact is droping alpha CPUs in favor of Intel 64bit CPU), mvme68k (Motorola new

      model of VME board use PowerPC cpus) only 3 are actively produced: i386, macppc, sparc64

      OK, so you see what I'm trying to say. Why add $10 to the price, and another CD to the pack, to be able to boot more dead architectures?

    4. Re:Wierd timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having made my own OpenBSD CDs from the file available on their FTP servers, I can tell you that it will be 2 CDs even if they only include the base for one architecture. You wind up with a base CD that's barely half full and another disc that is chock full of the packages. Might as well put something on the first disc to fill it up, right?

    5. Re:Wierd timing by evilviper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well first of all, there are tons of those 'dead' architecture machines still around and actively used (this isn't Microsoft's world, the little work necessary to keep that arch. current is more than justified by the number of users-it's funny how writing PORTABLE code can have so many benefits isn't it).

      Second, they aren't dead. Many chipsets considered old are being actively manufactured and used for the embedded market. They may not be in new PCs, but they are popular, and significant.

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      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    6. Re:Wierd timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh for gods sake. sparc64 and macppc are the new ones. The others have pretty much always been there. Alpha moulded for a while, but then compaq emptied out a truckload of alphas on developer desktops, so it got resurrected.

      Only a slashdot troll could complain about the price of a product that can be downloaded for free...

  8. What happened to the sun-3 support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    I miss the sun-3 architecture support. Anybody know
    why it was dropped?

  9. audio track? by InvisibleCraterFunk · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There is an audio track on one of the CDs. Has anyone heard it? MP3?
    Why this music theme?

    1. Re:audio track? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the music theme?

      Dunno. Whya mafia theme for 2.9? Why an Anime
      theme for 2.8? Space theme for 2.7? Script Kittie for 2.6? Cop theme for 2.5?

  10. What's the audio track? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the audio track of? There's no info on the openbsd.org site.
    I hope it's a talk about something.

  11. The new cover art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man that blowfish dude, be scratchin' out them fat beats. I needs to install that shizit on my system so I can bump with the best with them. Don't need no playa haters to be rootin my box. Yeah foo, I got 300 watts of power behind my Overlclocked Celeron.

    Peace out...