OpenBSD 3.0 Ready for Pre-Orders

osiris writes: "Theo de Raadt has just announced that OpenBSD 3.0 is now accepting pre-orders. 3.0 will now be shipping with 3 cds supporting booting from cd for 6 architectures. Plus there is a bonus audio track on the cd :) Plus the all new pf firewall, which replaces Darren Reed's ipf. I hear pf is pretty rock solid with quite a few new features."

Comments

The release page

[osiris]

here is the release page as well. and here is the coverart.

Re:The release page

[cpeterso]

The cover art is hella gay. Is Theo trying to save money by designing the art himself again??

I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of work has gone into pf, but I just don't trust a 6-month-old (and not even that) firewall. I plan on sticking with 2.9 for a few more releases while everything gets ironed out.

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[RLiegh]

I'll wait until 3.1 too; it's the same version that I started out on w/ windows, and that taught me all I need to know about that "OS". ;);)

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[chris88]

3.0 is just as solid as every other OBSD release.

No one said you had to use PF, you can go compile IPF and use it on your 3.0 install, no ones stopping you.

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[Anonymous Coward]

Patches to make it work will be out within days of 3.0's release. If no one else does it, I will.

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[methodic]

good, then dont run PF on your firewall, after all, it's only developed by the same people that bring you OpenBSD, so why should you trust it, right?

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[bstrahm]

So I am sitting here with a single moderator point left... My question is is this comment +1 funny or -1 Troll...

Damned, why can't I do a +2 Funny/Troll ???

Merlyn

Re:I think I'll wait for 3.1, thanks

[Anonymous Coward]

You seem to think that creating a packet filter and NAT is rocket science, its not. IPF took so long because Darren was learning as he went along and because it had to be mangled to support many different OS's. Most of the people who are working on PF have done IPF hacking and know that it really is not as good as most people seem to think it is.

Re:Someone told me that BSD was dying.

[kenfrid]

Don't listen to the trolls :-) First off, there are multiple BSD's out there. Not nearly as many as the Linux distros. I won't go into the differences here, that's beating a dead horse. I am a huge fan of all the BSD's. All of them have come a long way and are quite stable. The only one that I know of having any trouble is FreeBSD since WindRiver gave them the big boot. Now they're off on their own, which might actually be a good thing since they didn't seem all that interesting in open source development like BSDi was when they first purchased Walnut Creek CD-ROM.

OpenBSD has been cranking out a release pretty solid every six months ever since I first messed with it at 2.5.

NetBSD seems to be in good shape too. The developers seemed to be on their toes. Someone found a few large security holes in 1.5.1 and they had the fixes in the source tree in a couple of days and on CD as version 1.5.2 before some of the vendors could even push out their 1.5.1 CD's!

license audit

[JDizzy]

This is the fruit of the lisence audit OBSD went thru a while back. As many of you remember this was started when Theo elegantly let the world know abotu certain software not being intelectually free... so he simply yanked things out of the official ports tree, and reverse-engineered everything displaced by the vacume. Well now that the dramma is over, it is now safe to relase new features.

I guess Theo really can piss further than anybody else in a pissing match.

Re:license audit

[Anonymous DWord]

I guess Theo really can piss further than anybody else in a pissing match.

I agree, and I think it's cool. Theo really puts his money where his mouth is. Say what you like about his social "skills," at least you know where he stands, and that he's certainly willing to follow through with what he believes in. Good guy to have on our side. :-)

Re:Wierd timing

[Anonymous Coward]

Intel bought everything that is Alpha, and killed it.

There will be no more Alpha anything. Whatever technology Intel can assimilate into the Pentium V or whateveron there next chip is is all you will see of the Alpha.

Re:Wierd timing

[Harpagon]

They've added alpha as a bootable architecture. Does anybody still make alpha machines anymore?

I don't want to break your fun, but out of the 10 architectures on the CD:

• 5 are no longer produced: amiga, hp300, mac68k, sparc, vax
  
• 2 are still sold but for how long?: alpha (Compact is droping alpha CPUs in favor of Intel 64bit CPU), mvme68k (Motorola new model of VME board use PowerPC cpus)
  
• only 3 are actively produced: i386, macppc, sparc64

Anyway, dead architectures are still very fun to play with. (Got a VAX and 2 SPARC.)

Re:Wierd timing

[pdqlamb]

I don't want to break your fun, but out of the 10 architectures on the CD:

5 are no longer produced: amiga, hp300, mac68k, sparc, vax

2 are still sold but for how long?: alpha (Compact is droping alpha CPUs in favor of Intel 64bit CPU), mvme68k (Motorola new

model of VME board use PowerPC cpus) only 3 are actively produced: i386, macppc, sparc64

OK, so you see what I'm trying to say. Why add $10 to the price, and another CD to the pack, to be able to boot more dead architectures?

Re:Wierd timing

[evilviper]

Well first of all, there are tons of those 'dead' architecture machines still around and actively used (this isn't Microsoft's world, the little work necessary to keep that arch. current is more than justified by the number of users-it's funny how writing PORTABLE code can have so many benefits isn't it).

Second, they aren't dead. Many chipsets considered old are being actively manufactured and used for the embedded market. They may not be in new PCs, but they are popular, and significant.