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Microsoft, DoJ Reach Tentative Settlement

JeffMagnus writes: "MSNBC is reporting that the tentative settlement between Microsoft and the DoJ calls for a five-year consent decree between the government and Microsoft governing the company's conduct. A three person panel of independent experts will be created to review the companys' future activity." The New York Times appears to be the original source for the settlement stories; there's also an AP article.

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  1. Does the settlement involve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...my rights to FOURTH POST?!?!?!?! I love nigger bitches!

  2. Re:Obligatory Post of NYT Article by lordkuri · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yay! I got modded down yet again... GIMME MORE!

  3. Re:Let's not forget by SamBeckett · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Let's not forget Clinton's Lincoln Bedroom hotel. Let's not forget his last minute pardons.

  4. Re:Let's not forget by binner1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Let's also remember that he's the stupidest man to lead a country since Ronald Reagan...no wait, Bush makes Reagan look like a Nobel Laureate.

    -Ben

  5. And the Panel will be: by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 4, Offtopic

    Linus
    RMS
    Steve Jobs

    We'll take care of this monopoly business in no time.

  6. Re:Let's not forget by Moridineas · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Once again I am amazed by the number of cubicle workers and others who go on and on "Oh, he's SO stupid, oh blah blah blah"

    Intellectual elitism at it's worst. If you're so smart and good, why aren't you president--wouldn't your vast and overwhelming intelligence be better for us all??

    Scott

  7. Re:Voting Ain't What It Used To Be by big.ears · · Score: 4, Offtopic

    Elections can be fixed. Like the last one.

    I thought the last election was broken, not fixed.

  8. Chrisitian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Nice spelling, fuckstick. And in your .sig, no less. Don't you have any pride?

  9. Re:Let's not forget by Codifex+Maximus · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Personally, I don't care what the president does in his residence as long as he does his job. As for Bush, I have no confidence in the man and feel that he would sell us out in a minute.

    Look at two facts:
    Bush came into office and the first thing he did was cut taxes (this particular tax cut chiefly benefits those who make over 100K+ a year). Government makes money by taxing... the alternative is borrowing - i.e. to put us back in debt. Debt seems to be the Republican way of doing business.

    Bush then, quickly, got rid of the massive available surplus by giving tax rebates to the people. Now the government is technically broke and must borrow money. All part of the grand plan.

    Here is a scenario for you:
    Say you are a rich man and Uncle Sam comes a knocking at your door. He wants money and you have a choice of payment - pay him taxes or buy his bonds. Which would you choose? Give him the money outright (taxes) or loan him money (debt/bonds). I'll bet you'd choose to loan the govt money.

    Now, loaning the govt money is not BAD(tm) in it's own right but primarily financing govt with debt is. Debt should be an emergency measure to fill in the gaps caused by improper forecasting of govt money needs. Such debt should be retired in the short term rather than the long term.

    btw... I'm from Texas and Bush isn't.
    Oh, and lets not forget Reagan's, "I can't remember." lines. heh Let's not forget the massive borrowing that was required most years just to pay the interest on the nation debt accumulated during the Reagan and Bush years.

    --
    Codifex Maximus ~ In search of... a shorter sig.
  10. Karma Suicide by istartedi · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes folks, I'm tired. Getting modded up at 50 and getting nothing from it is such a bore. Bouncing around in the high 40s just isn't worth it anymore. In fact, you might even say I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

    That's why I'm going to blow my Karma brains out, right here on national TV, err... um... international web... err.. whatever. You get the idea.

    Heck, I might even go for negative karma. I mean, VA Linux, err... um... VA Software or VA Chicken Processing or whatever business they are in this week is going to fold soon anyway. What difference does it really make? So go ahead mods, do your worst.

    --
    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  11. And people say LINUX is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I. COMPREHENSIVE WINDOWS REGISTRY GUIDE
    The Registry

    DEFINITION: The Windows 9x/NT/2000/ME/XP Registry is a complex, unified, system wide, continually referenced during operation database, used for centrally storing, locating, editing and administering system, hardware, software and user configuration information, following a hierarchical structure.
    Its role is to replace the text/ASCII based MS-DOS configuration (.BAT, .SYS) and MS Windows initialization (.INI) files, used by the old MS-DOS 3/4/5/6.xx, MS Windows 3.xx and MS Windows for WorkGroups 3.1x releases.
    Most data from the MS-DOS startup configuration files: AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS, and from the Windows system initialization files: CONTROL.INI, SYSTEM.INI, WIN.INI, PROTOCOL.INI, NETWORK.INI etc, is now contained into the Registry, together with most of the other system settings. Most Win32 (32-bit) specific applications store their initialization and configuration data into the Registry instead of into .INI files. The MS-DOS and .INI files are kept only for backward compatibility with older MS-DOS and Win16 (16-bit) based programs.
    The Registry is stored in binary data executable format (.DAT), and the information it contains can be accessed (read from and/or written to) at any time during operation by any Registry aware Windows programs, as needed.

    More info:

    MSKB: "Definition of the Microsoft Windows Registry"
    MS Technet: "The Windows Registry"
    MS Windows 2000: "Registry structure"
    MS Technet: "Windows NT Registry"
    MSDN: "Structure of the Registry"
    MSKB: "Description of the Registry Files in Windows 95/98"
    MS TechNet: "Windows 98 Registry"
    MS TechNet: "Windows 95 Registry"
    MSDN: "The Structure of the Registry"
    MSDN: "Registry Value Types"

    The Windows 95/98/ME Registration Database is contained in these 5 files, with the Hidden, Read-only attributes for write-protection purposes, usually located in the %WinDir% folder (default is C:\Windows) in stand-alone single-user environments:

    SYSTEM.DAT = stores persistent hardware and software settings related to the system it resides on, contained in the (HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT = Windows 95 and 98 only) and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE Hive keys.

    USER.DAT = stores user specific and software settings contained in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER Hive key. If more than one user, then multiple user profiles enable each user to have their own separate USER.DAT file, located in %WinDir%\Profiles\%UserName%. When a user logs on, Windows OS (down)loads both USER.DAT files: the one from the local machine %WinDir% (global user settings), and the most recent one from the local machine %WinDir%\Profiles\%UserName%, or from the central (host) server if user profiles reside on a network (local user settings).

    CLASSES.DAT = stores persistent data contained in the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT Hive key, found only on Windows ME systems.

    SYSTEM.DA0 and USER.DA0 = automatically created backups of SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT from the last successful Windows GUI startup, and found only on Windows 95 retail, 95a OSR1, 95B OSR 2.0, 95B OSR 2.1 and 95C OSR 2.5 systems.
    This other file usually resides on the central (host) server in multi-user environments/networks, or in %WinDir% on stand-alone multi-user machines:

    POLICY.POL = optional, provides additional info specific to the network, and can override certain settings in the Registry, allowing network administrators to control users access level to the network.
    Policy files (.POL) can be created/edited using the Policy Editor tool (PolEdit.exe), found in %WinDir% only on Windows 95, 95a OSR1, 95 B/C OSR 2.x and 98/98 SE systems, if installed as an optional component from the Windows Setup CD-ROM: open Windows Explorer -> right-click on \Tools\Reskit\Netadmin\Poledit\PolEdit.inf -> select Install.
    Microsoft removed the Policy Editor from Windows ME. :(
    In Windows 95 retail, 95a OSR1, 95B OSR 2.0, 95B OSR 2.1 and 95C OSR 2.5 the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and HKEY_USERS Registry Hive keys can be backed up manually by using the Configuration Backup tool (Cfgback.exe) found on the Windows Setup CD-ROM in the \Other\Misc\Cfgback subfolder. On computers with more than one user only HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE is backed up.
    More info.
    CfgBack can create up to 9 different compressed Registry backup copies with the .RBK extension. Registry BacKup (.RBK) files must reside in %WinDir%, and can be used exclusively by CfgBack to restore an older set of working Registry Hive keys.
    See "REGISTRY BACKUP + RESTORE" to learn how to backup/restore your entire Registry safely.
    MSKB: Confirmed CfgBack BUGs:

    "Configuration Backup Tool Does Not Restore All Settings"
    "Configuration Backup Gives Confusing Warning on Restore".
    In Windows 98, 98 SE(U) and ME working Registry files (.DAT) are backed up automatically upon loading Windows by the Scan Registry tool (Scanregw.exe, located in %WinDir%) into compressed .CAB files (Microsoft proprietary compression technology) found in the %WinDir%\Sysbckup subfolder (default), and holding 5 (default), up to a maximum of 99 different backup copies, a new one being created upon the first successful GUI boot of each new day (the oldest is replaced with the newest). They are named from: RB000.CAB, RB001.CAB, ... up to RB099.CAB. Check the date stamp to determine the newest backup set.
    Windows 98/ME's automatic Registry backup is enabled by this command:

    C:\Windows\Scanregw.exe /autorun

    found as a String Value called "ScanRegistry" under this Registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cu rr entVersion\Run

    See "SCANREGW, SCANREG + SCANREG.INI" for more details.

    In addition, SYSTEM.1ST (Windows 95, 98 and ME) and CLASSES.1ST (Windows ME) are created in the %bootdir% folder (boot drive root directory, usually C:\), a backup of the first Win95/98/ME SYSTEM.DAT and WinME CLASSES.DAT respectively, created at the end of a successful Setup. These are also Hidden, Read-only files.

    The Windows NT/2000/XP Registration Database is contained in these 5 files located in the %SystemRoot%\System32\Config folder (default is C:\Winnt\System32\Config):

    DEFAULT = stores the HKEY_USERS\.Default key.

    SAM = stores the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Sam key.

    SECURITY = stores the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security key.

    SOFTWARE = stores the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software key.

    SYSTEM = stores the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System key and the HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG Hive key,
    these files located in the %SystemRoot%\Profiles\%UserName% folder:

    NTUSER.DAT and USRCLASS.DAT (Windows XP only) = store the HKEY_CURRENT_USER Hive key,
    and their automatically created backups from the last known good booting process (successful startup):

    SYSTEM.ALT = backup of SYSTEM file above, and

    *.SAV = backup of first Hive key created at the end of a successful text mode Setup.

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  12. Windows is not that easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Registry Structure
    The Registry consists of 2 basic components:

    (Sub)Key: storage container (folder, directory, tree, heading). They organize the Registry data in a consistent and hierarchical format. Keys can contain subkeys and values. Each (sub)key's name is predefined by the system or created by users or Win32 (32-bit) programs, and can contain spaces and most alphanumeric characters. A (sub)key is defined by its complete pathway starting at the root level (main key).
    NOTE: These Registry Key and Value examples follow the .REG file rules (more on this subject further below).

    HKEY_KEY_NAME = Root Handle/Hive/Main/Parent Key. The Windows 95/98/ME Registry contains 6 root keys under the "My Computer" heading (see further below).
    Example:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE]

    HKEY_KEY_NAME\KeyName = Child (Sub)Key.
    Example:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows]

    Value: stores actual Registry data created/modified/used by the system, users and Win32 (32-bit) applications to control hardware and software settings. Values (like files) are stored inside (sub)keys (like folders):

    "ValueName"=ValueType:ValueData
    Value names define data types and are displayed in multiple alphanumeric formats.

    There are 3 basic (simple) Registry Value types, valid for all Windows 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and XP releases, and available in both RegEdit and RegEdt32:

    REG_DWORD [DWORD Value: API code 4] = Double WORD data of 4 bytes (32 bits) in length, in 3 numeric formats: decimal (base of 10), hexadecimal (base of 16) or binary (base of 2).
    Example:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\con tr ol\FileSystem]
    "ContigFileAllocSize"=dword:00000800

    REG_BINARY [Binary Value: API code 3] = data of any length, in 2 numeric formats: binary (base of 2) or hexadecimal (base of 16).
    Example:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\con tr ol\FileSystem]
    "Win31FileSystem"=hex:00

    REG_SZ [String Value: API code 1] = data of any length, in 3 Unicode or ANSI formats: simple text/ASCII (string), expanded (%string%) or extended (multi-string) -> see below for 2nd and 3rd String Value types.
    Example:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\C ur rentVersion]
    "Version"="Windows ME"

    There are several complex (multiple) Registry Value types (contain multiple or a list of data types of any length separated and terminated by null characters), valid only for Windows NT, 2000 and XP, and available only in RegEdt32:

    REG_EXPAND_SZ [Expanded String Value: API code 2] = in system variable (%string%) format, stores environment variables within strings, accessed by substituting variables with actual system path names.

    REG_MULTI_SZ [Multiple String Value: API code 7] = in extended multi-string format, stores multiple strings into a single Registry entry.

    REG_RESOURCE_LIST [Resource List Value: API code 8] = device driver list of hardware resources stored under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ResourceMap tree.

    REG_FULL_RESOURCE_DESCRIPTOR [Resource Descriptor Value: API code 9] = device driver description of hardware resources stored under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\HardwareDescription tree.

    REG_RESOURCE_REQUIREMENTS_LIST [Resource Requirements Value: API code 10] = device driver list of hardware resource requirements stored under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ResourceMap tree.

  13. sed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i just learned how to us sed on my lunix computure... it is way c00l better fonerwall for the me can i make with it using ipKernals

  14. Re:Let's not forget by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    If you're so smart and good, why aren't you president--wouldn't your vast and overwhelming intelligence be better for us all??

    It is my considered opinion that the most desirable people to have in political life are people who have absolutely no interest or desire to be politicians.

    In theory, politicians should run for office to serve the people and make things better, or at least as good as they can be.

    In practice, most politicians run for office for power and ego-satisfaction. "I'm a big important man, and you aren't."

    The "best" people to have in a position of power are the people who don't really want the power, as it were, and therefore they simply don't run for office. "Not interested, I don't need the headache thanks."

    --
    If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
  15. free john gotti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Pushing all of the carcasses of father williams' victims out of the way, MuSt have been a dauNTing task, but 'our' lamo gov't., & the softwar gangsters are up to IT.

    We'll never 'settle' with the felonious KingDumb. ITs a personal thing. Wake up j., vote with your wallet.

    However, life goes on, & we're busy trying gnu stuff, including giving away this distinctive web address, including a years' free hosting, if you're shrewd enough to follow the simple directions.

    fud lives?

  16. OFF-TOPIC! by charon.de · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What's going on? Clicked on the URL in /.'s new design (http://jobs.osdn.com/), wondered about all those .asp inside, finally went to netcraft.com and it tells me:

    The site jobs.osdn.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000

    Wow, this really sounds like "Open Source Development Network", the stats show of course constant rebooting, whatelse would be expected from this setup.

    Moderators may mod my post down as they like, but I would really like to know (Rob or someone else from /.) how this is possible?

    Michael

  17. Re:Better than two companies... by SEWilco · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    "...file formats and the Win32 api that MS and Windows based 3rd party applications use were to be fully documented for once by the establishment of an Justice Dept.controlled escrow for MS source code. ..."
    That's a start. I suggested that all interfaces be publicly documented. Including API, SDK, file formats, protocols, drivers, and OS calls. If any interface is shown to not be adequately documented, the source code for that component will be made public domain. Thus either everyone can interact with all the components, or everyone can figure out how to interact with it -- with the penalty of MS losing control of that code and everyone being able to use the code as well as the interface (in addition to any other penalties the court may apply). It appears that this is not exactly what is being considered.
  18. Re:Better than two companies... by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    and even animals have social rules...

    --
    I use Friend/Foe + mod-point modifiers as a karma/reputation system.
  19. get a life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Get a life you linux losers. get a job while your at it too.

  20. Re:Better than two companies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    [smack forehead]

  21. Re:An idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Do you really you scatterbrained .netter you.
    Deal with their F***ED licensing and stupid
    fuck**** .net sites for the better part of a day
    anfd you will be ready to:
    microsoft > /dev/null 2>&1
    Ah, peace and quiet.