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Real Time Gnutella Visualization
brett42 writes "Some students at Berkeley wrote a python program that connects to the Gnutella network and maps out connections between nodes in real time. " I gotta say thats pretty smooth. Hopefully future gnutella clients will incorporate something like this just for the time wasting potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for.
...so soon Ill have to wait 4 hours instead of 2 for the latest Dave Matthews single. Gotta love wasted cpu cycles and bandwith....
Did you just grab my ass?
Seems like you can d/l a lot of P2P porn, and get credit for it :P
My other sig is funny!
Well, here's our next generation of college-millionaires. They can sign a nice spiffy contract with the RIAA and mod this thing to spit out home addresses and phone numbers, complete with a detailed map for "physical evidence." Let's hope that's not as easy as it sounds and the RIAA never gets that capability.
~ now you know
These guys disected the Gnutella protocol and used the Furi interface (which provides network status screens and gives users info about nodes they're connected to) for their project. I was looking over the source code briefly and it looks very tight. It's nice to see college students interested and working on projects like these. If you go to the website and read over their final paper it is very interesting. You'll find a lot of stuff about the guts of Gnutella and what is unique about this project. They toyed with interfaces for a long time and rejected a great deal of them. It seems they spent a lot of time making this a very easy to use tool. They even worked hard on getting the color scheme down (hence this rejected scheme). Seeing a few people that are this poetic in refining their tools so that the user can use them best is rare.
The final visualization was createed with Python and Tkinter ("Tk interface"-- the de-facto Python interface to the Tk GUI toolkit). Tkinter is not the only GUI for Python. However, they chose it because it is commonly used and is easily portable between Unix and Windows (how thoughtful of them!)
the byproduct of years of oppression by the white man
Because the Kazaa networks now go through a single host before logging on, introducing a single point of failure/tracking on the network.
I agree that the Kazaa/Morpheus/giFT technology is superior, but the giFT engine has to be bought up to speed (super-server support), and reliance on the Kazaa/Morpheus networks themselves need to be dropped.
No, really, that sounds like a great way to allow ppl to slow the internet down a little bit more.
Could we integrate a 2 GIG mpeg that can be sent around to random locations when ppl aren't actually up/downloading so they can feel that they are still contributing to my cable connection sucking even more.
These file sharing programs are such hogs, do you need *that* much pr0n?
I guess you do...
http://monkeyserver.com --- weeeeee
Gnucleus(Win32) already supports something like that which uses a component by AT&T. You have to start it before connecting though. So I'm not sure, how RealTime it is compared to this script.
I use Gnutella by way of LimeWire and it works great for me. I frequently have thousands of hosts and over 10 TB of files to search. My only complaint is that I haven't found a Gnutella servent with strong advanced searching capability (i.e. use of AND, OR, NOT operators). Or if they do it wasn't in the documentation. :)
SQUEAK, the Death of Rats explained.
According to section 3.3 of the gnuTellaVision Final Paper, gnuTellaVision uses pings with a TTL of 1 to find the neighbours of each node it has found. In other words, gnuTellaVision does use a little extra bandwidth.
On the other hand, it gets query data using the normal Gnutella procedure (i.e. a neighbour forwards queries to it). Of course, forwarding queries to an extra Gnutella node (the gnuTellaVision program) uses a little bandwidth too.
Is if this kind of technology was used for a new kind of music chart:
Top 100 pirated songs!
It would be doubly interesting to see if the same songs which were top of the 'real' charts, were also the top of the Gnutella charts. Maybe we could catch the record companies that buy their own records to boost their positions in the charts red-handed.
*r
--- My dad's political betting
pr0n!
mirror here.
The animated version was hilarious,
the constant flow of seachwords like f***, l****, t*** etc etc but the best was definitely 2****B*****d****o*****f****w*****c***.mpg
A true documentary! The best thing about Gnutella was that you could see right into the heads of other users by watching their searches and use the searchwords as a crude chat totally overloading poor fileservers looking for matches.
Because since Kazza modified their protocol so that everything has to go through a single server, authenticated by a valid kazza client, kza and giFT on linux no longer work.
...aside from the fact I'm getting old and don't have a lot of time to waste searching for this stuff over Gnutella/bearshare/morpheus/etc and waiting forever for a file to download.
Cripes, I must be a dinosaur because I still use news servers and the occasional bout on IRC for fills.
I, personally, love it when someone (usually younger than I) says "I got a DivX of {insert name} last nite off of {insert client}".
"Oh, really", is my reply "I got a DivX of {movie a, b, and the first part of c} and a vcd of {movie d and e} last nite".
The looks of sheer bewilderment I get are too funny to describe at times (even from ppl I know to have cable modems).
Just goes to prove the old saying; "it is not the size of the wand (or 'pipe') but the magic in it".
Don't get me wrong, these clients do have their uses, I've used them but I just don't currently have a use/need for them.
Dang...my train of thought slipped the track a little.
I can't wait to see some of these maps and superimpose them over some of the thermographic maps I have available...no reason but investigation and curiosity.
If it is not on fire, it is a software problem.
I believe that Limewire does support some sort of boolean searches. I've noticed that using '+' with a search further limits the results you get e.g 'foo+fighters+everlong' returns almost only that song not anything else. Like you said though, I too cannot find any info. on this feature.
"Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
In my many... uh... months of using Bearshare, I don't think I ever once saw a query list that was as clean as the one in their screenshot. I only count four porn searches, and none of them have anything obscene in the query. Nice job, guys.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
I don't think you had any chance to see what he ment on that post. I had to download the AVI so I could see... it's (wait for it)
e St uffOnBed.mpg
2HotBlondeTeensInWhiteKneeHighs&BlackHeelsDoDik
Gosh, we really should thank Bill for implementing LONG filenames in Windows! I'd never be able to figure out what 2HotBl~1.mpg was.
Because since the network is being routed through apparently one super server to authenticate its clients as they connect, this gives the RIAA, MPAA, and MS reason to attack and destroy that one server. Gnutella, while a little clunky and information on it is once in a while unreliable - at least it IS completely distributed with no central server so it makes it harder for someone to sue or attack any one entity as they all share in the 'criminal acts' of getting little known artists and videos massively distributed and seen/heard. (Whatever your affiliation is with the MPAA/RIAA/MS, feel free to flame me for being sarcasticly cynical about big corporations tearing up file sharing innovations, a-la Napster).
Don't think the RIAA isn't stupid enough to go after some end users. It just hasn't been practical so far to get evidence. Now they can point to P2P traffic maps as probable cause.
Our efforts are paying off in fighting this disease called "l33t speak".
In out time, we'll wipe out this idiotic, hacker wanna-be, script kiddie morons who think they're special when they type things like a moron.
But we must remain vigilant!
potential of watching the graph wiggle while seeing what porn others are searching for
This is already a fairly interesting utility. Turn on the "view search" option on your favorite gnutella client (Limewire on OS X for me) and check out how specific people's porn searches can be.
"Asian nurse enema big boobs midget amputee smoking."
I guess there really is something for everyone on this new fangled internet thing.
--saint
My ISP just called. A Hollywood detective agency had contacted them and informed, that a dynamic IP address once given to my cable modem had had Gnutella running at some point in time and it had shared some episodes of Futurama. And now they are after me.
Note that I live in Finland, so I guess somebody has decided to mount a large scale attack against global peer-to-peer piracy.
Anssi Porttikivi / app@iki.fi
To the uninitiated..
Indeed newsgroups are great for downloading...
+Extreme speed - you're downloading directly from your ISP's news server
+LOTS of files available, from games to movies to music to p0rn.
-You can only download what happens to be posted at any given time... Harder to search for a specific item
-Missing parts sometimes. Large files are split up into 20MB parts, and sometimes some parts are incomplete and hence don't get through. Recently, though, people are starting to upload Parity Archives along with the main archives, which means that if you're missing a file, you can reconstruct it based on the other files and the parity archive! very cool... this makes the missing archives problem much less of an issue. But then, there's always IRC for fills.
Andre060
You're wrong..... i have morpheus running right now in Windows XP Professional. Oops, someone didn't research before they pathetically tried to bash MS.
Keep in mind that pornography literally means "A visual reproduction created solely for pleasure" Wouldn't the enjoyment of watching a graph wiggle be considered porn?
What? What a word "literally" means is totally irrelevent. What is generally agreed a word means is relevent. For example, "sarcasm" literally means "to cut (or rip) flesh", but who gives a crap? When I say "sarcasm", I don't mean literally ripping someone's flesh.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
The paper really spends most of its time talking about how they settled on the color scheme or arrangement of the circles on the graphs. This is perhaps more relevant in the context of the class the authors were taking. They spend only a few very short paragraphs on what they actually discovered or what could be discovered, and there were no real numbers presented.
A much more interesting article is here. It discusses a number of findings about Gnutella usage in the context of the famous "Tragedy of the Commons" dilemma commonly studied by economists, and the ramifications these findings have for the long term viability of Gnutella networks.
Sorry, I forget some people aren't as educated as I am:
Latin root of "Porn" - For pleasure
latin root of "graphy" - a visual depiction of infomormation.
Therefore, pornograhy is a visual depiction for pleasure.
Kozz (-2, Illiterate)
The Dopester
"Yes, I'm a Karma Whore, but I'm doing it to pay my way through school."
... well, sort-of - MyNapster is a Win32 combined gnutella client plus extra services, and does this (non-real time); indeed, IIRC, it uses graphing software licenced from AT&T labs or somesuch.
James F.
I was thinking about taking a look at the source too, maybe I'll do that tonight and see what I find, although my Java skills are minimal...but my first guess is that it maybe something they do on the client end once the app. receives the search results, like how you can filter on connection speeds and the 'star rating', because Limewire does state that their app. is "compatible with the Gnutella file-sharing protocol and can connect with anyone else running Gnutella-compatible software." Although as we all know, compatible does not always mean 100% compliant.
"Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." -Homer Simpson
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Another possible solution to this problem is the transformation of what is
effectively a public good into a private one. This can be accomplished by setting
up a market based architecture that allows peers to buy and sell computer
processing resources, very much in the spirit in which Spawn was created
He seems to be mellowing a bit; at least in that paper he considers other solutions.Actually, if you run into the "tragedy of the commons" problem, it's usually because the protocol mishandles scaling. See my ancient RFC 970, where I pointed this out back in 1985. Gnutilla is generally acknowledged to have scaling problems.
As for the economic analysis, market enthusiasts tend to ignore that markets both increase transaction costs and consume attention. Some goods are too cheap to charge for, because the costs of pricing, charging, billing, accounting, advertising, and marketing exceed the cost of the goods themselves. This is why the Internet beat out the pay-per-bit services.
Worse, there's the problem of limited attention. If something is charged for, the buyer has to pay attention to its cost and how much they're using. That attention is a limited resource, and people hate wasting it on little stuff. This is why consumer Internet services moved from per-hour to flat rate.
Uhhhhh...hyuk hyuk! I mean here.
Forgot to QA my own post!
**>>BELCH
not sure if we all slasdotted gnutellashosts but I found that if you edit line 21 of gtv.py and replace
addr = socket.gethostbyname('gnutellahsots.com')
with
addr = socket.gethostbyname('router.limewire.com')
it also works.