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How Did You Become a UNIX Administrator?

xylix asks: "I figure there must be a number of UNIX admins among the Slashdot readership and I am wondering how you got into that field to start with. The reason I am asking is that I really want to be a UNIX admin but don't know how to get from here to there. What kind of education did you have(CS or other)? How did you start out (as a junior admin or moving laterally from another position)? What certifications are useful?"

"I am an English teacher now but am a techie at heart and spend all my time coding and using various Linux / BSD distros. I figure I am capable of handling a junior position, but most ads I see for *nix admins are looking for several years of work experience (on specific platforms), CS or EE degrees (I have a BA in philosophy) and perhaps years of experience in a specific industry (financial, wireless, transportation...).

I have been told by a couple people that at 33 I am far too old to start ANY kind of tech career (with no previous work experience). Anyone out there with experience to counter that? I know the job market is tough right now, but I am thinking long term."

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  1. Oh, that's a short story... by Shoten · · Score: 4, Funny

    Simple...I was told to "upgrade the NT servers," so I installed FreeBSD :)

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    1. Re:Oh, that's a short story... by Raymond+Luxury+Yacht · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm... I thought all it took was a deep masochistic streak and a fondness for curry.

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    2. Re:Oh, that's a short story... by KingKire64 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funny i actually did that i ran a hotlinee server 3 years ago on my (p200, 64megs of ram, Win95,bigfoot hdd,10mbit realtek)i sucked up Millersvilles(not that big) entire connection (97.5%,3.8mbs)servering up warez and mp3s. The central servers freaked out and droped connections with the rest of the state wide system of schools....
      You know what happened? They gave me a job doing networking over the summer

      HAHA

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  2. How I did it by rho · · Score: 5, Funny

    I grew a beard, started wearing only t-shirts and jeans, and developed a surly attitude. The group accepted me, and I've never worked a full day in my life since then.

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  3. No, you don't by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am wondering how you got into that field to start with. The reason I am asking is that I really want to be a UNIX admin

    Just find a surgeon and get your fingers removed. Now. Trust me, it will be less painful in the long run.

    1. Re:No, you don't by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      If people really want to be UNIX admins, they can go and get something _else_ removed...

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    2. Re:No, you don't by Number6.2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Heh, you hit the nail on the head, pal :)

      The real "Ask Slashdot" challenge would be "I'm am ,at present, a UNIX system administrator. How the hell do I get out of this job, but still stay in a computer related field?"

      I was shanghi'd into being a UNIX sysadmin for about a year. It was the nastiest experience of my life, especially since I was considered to be the "unix expert" by my non-UNIX cohorts, and was expected to waive a magic wand to get things to work. I developed a whole new relationship with SCSI cables that I never suspected even existed before.

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  4. First Mistake by IainMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    I really want to be a UNIX admin

    Ahh - This is your first mistake. Anyone going into the poky comms room meeting the grumpy sysadmin realises that all sysadmins would rather be anywhere else doing anything than what they are doing at that point. Serial murder for example.

    Miserable Bastards

    :-)

    1. Re:First Mistake by turd191 · · Score: 5, Funny

      A sys admin would never commit serial murder. Why go to jail and spen the rest of your life is a small room with no windows when you can continue to get paid while sitting in a room that is less luxurious!

    2. Re:First Mistake by hburch · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think 'no windows' is the key reason.

    3. Re:First Mistake by Ubi_NL · · Score: 2, Funny

      tsk
      First our sysadmin told me het 'hated windows',
      now he's complaining he hasn't got any.
      Some people are never satisfied...

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    4. Re:First Mistake by adamy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, any Sys admin worth his Salt would use fork and commit parallel murder.

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  5. Admin fashion tips by Pointy_Hair · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't ever go out in the sunlight, bathing is optional, answer all questions with a clear and concise grunt, and use one word e-mail replies (my personal favorite is "NO").

    You'll know you're good when you are like a phantom and you're co-workers can't describe what you look like and are too afraid to try finding you.

    1. Re:Admin fashion tips by jbuchana · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sunlight?

      Is that from the big bright light in the big blue room?

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  6. Practicing to be a sysad: by Teancom · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Repeat 10 times a day: "this change should not affect end users.

    2) Type 20 times a day: "rm -fR ~user"

    3) 10 reps: "what did *you* do to screw this up?"

    4) Stop showering. Now.

    5) Smash your pager, claim it was "killed in the line of duty".

    6) Pick any given operating system, and develop an intense hatred for it. You will work with this os for the rest of your life.

    7) rinse, repeat.

  7. Everyone take two steps back! by Shipwright · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hiya,

    True Story: At my small accounting software company Marlon hated hardware the least so he ended up being the one that called when the /var/spool filled up or the SCO refused to talk to the HP 9000. When Marlon left it was decided that Jay had been most seen in the vicinity of Marlon so he started getting the calls, got his name in HP's and UUNET's support databases, etc. When Jay left, well, I had been Jay's roommate for a year... The rest is history.

    For management style think 'Lord of the Flies', not Harvard MBA.

    -Greg

  8. The right way or the wrong way? by Havokmon · · Score: 3, Funny

    I did it the wrong way.

    Me: "I can build the corporate web site. We've got some older PC's laying around here. I have Slackware 1.2, it has a web server. That should do it"

    Boss: "I want it to run on NT."

    Me: "Why? There are problems all over the place with Windows in general crashing just by receiving a bad packet. Nobody will know the difference."

    Boss: "I will know, I want to run NT."

    Me: "No. I don't want to spend all my time rebooting the thing, and people won't be able to SEE our website when that happens."

    Boss: "It WILL run on NT."

    Me: "Fine. Just get me the ad slicks and I'll make them into web pages."

    A week later....

    Me: "We site is all done. Goto www.xxx.xxx to see it."

    Boss: "Great! And it runs on NT right?"

    Me: "Nope."

    Boss: "GODDAMMIT RICK!"

    At that's how it all started....

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  9. leave sysadmin experience off your cv by s20451 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I arrived at my current place of work, I admitted to knowing a few linux hacks. Suddenly I'm the sysadmin, in addition to my real job. Now I get to spend hours and hours helping newbies configure their systems, cut ethernet cables, and clean up the carnage when we get hacked.

    Don't make the same mistake I did. Never admit to sysadmin knowledge, or you will be marked for life.

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  10. Re:Advice by dfelznic · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's like my uncle says:
    "lock yourself in a room and lie down for thirty minutes. Once the urge passes you can leave the room"

  11. It's like the t-shirts SysAdmin Mag sells... by sammy+baby · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...or at least, used to sell: "It's a tough job, but somebody said I had to do it."

  12. Re:jeans and a t-shirt... by radja · · Score: 5, Funny

    hmm.. you still bother with the jeans??

    //rdj

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  13. I got mugged by krow · · Score: 4, Funny

    After getting mugged for the third time, two by knife and another by gun, and surviving happening in on a gang turf war while trying to make a single delivery, I realized that I bet I could get a safer job where I could wear t-shirts and jeans too. I had been dinking with UNIX boxen up to that point and saw and ad at the local library to administer a small system they had (the thing is while it was UNIX getting a shell on it was impossible).
    I bullshitted the entire interview including my age.

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  14. Re:the hard way by spyderbyte23 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I found the tape with the OS on it and the manual for installation, and began my life as an admin by rebuilding the server. 11 years later, I am still at it. :)
    Dude, if it's taken eleven years so far, don't bother finishing. The box is actually kind of outdated now anyway.
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  15. Just bug other admins... by zaius · · Score: 4, Funny

    I became a UNIX admin by hanging out around a bunch of other UNIX admins until they let me have root. Then I started to get rid of them...

  16. Sounds like a great poll question! by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    That sounds like the title of a great poll to me. Imagine the poll:

    How Did You Become a UNIX Administrator?

    o Programming too stressful.
    o Some script I got off IRC.
    o Told to "upgrade the NT servers" (apologies to Shoten!).
    o Read "Tricks of the UNIX Masters" over thirty times.
    o That's GNU/UNIX administrator, thank you very much.
    o Everyone else laid off, also CEO and Janitor.
    o Defeated CowboyNeal in hand-to-hand Nealmatch.

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  17. Re:It all began on a fall day 7 years ago... by xcomputer_man · · Score: 2, Funny

    "As far as certification, it might look good on a resume for a PHB, but in real life don't mean much. Like an MCSE."

    MCSE? You mean Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert?

  18. You have to do it the old fashioned way by alen · · Score: 3, Funny

    You need to sleep your way to the top. And don't be picky who you sleep with.

  19. Re:jeans and a t-shirt... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Funny
    Actually, spandex is much more comfortable than jeans.

    And it has an added bonus, too: it forces you to stay healthy so you can keep wearing it.

    And you also get babes to look at you...