.biz Open For Biz

Angry Black Man writes: "November 7, 2001 marks a new historic event in domain name suffixes. Neulevel's press release is reporting that the .biz domains went live last night at 12:00." And if you can follow that link, I guess they're live for you too. Anyone going to buy a .biz domain? .info might be used, but .biz just sounds silly/sleazy to me.

Comments

All domains resolve!

[DaSyonic]

Lookup ANY .biz domain, even random characters. It resolves, to 209.173.53.173, which the web server there says basically: "Hey, want to buy this domain?"

Now to me, That is just NOT acceptable, and totally is NOT how DNS for a TLD should be done!

Re:All domains resolve!

[PyroMosh]

So what you're saying is

All your .biz are resolve to 209.173.53.173?

Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist! (:

Re:All domains resolve!

[Penguin]

... and furthermore, the webserver gives a "200 OK" as a response for a non-existing domain and no expire-date in the HTTP-header. Although no "Last-Modified"-header is supplied and the page might not be at all that cacheable, it is just plain wrong giving such a "correct" answer for a page that shouldn't exist in the first place.

It seems that the "security", NeuLevel provides, doesn't concern themselves.

Re:All domains resolve!

[midom]

It will have plenty of negative impact.

• SMTP sender check is no longer valid.
• Instead of bouncing 'domain not found' messages smtp servers will have to wait until port 25 responds (argh, tons of mail in queues, tons of bounces later)
• Scripts checking for existing domain (host) names will have to be redone to check the stupid damn undocumented IP address instead of normal NULL answer in resolver libs... Guys, this isn't only domain registration (more banners for registrars page) thing!
• Rest in peace John, but the organisation you left isn't listening to your advices and design. Your voice is required here.
• It is not standards conformant. Internet should be based on standards, because without normal common language we won't be able to talk.

I am working for ISP in .lt, that also focuses on web hosting and mail solutions and in both spheres I really hate what happens right now. As well as unneeded .biz TLD - maybe it has some urgency in USA where guys forgot they've got local TLD (.us) and even classified ones.

I hated new.net with their new suffixes, but right now I'm really angry about what official institutions (ICANN) are doing - adding banners to non-existing A records. Pals, this is application implementation, how it should display non-existing pages, not network information backend's.

Oh Puh-leez

[ajuda]

How many domains to we really need? This is sooo obviously a marketing ploy to get everyone to spend more money on domains they don't need. Owners of Ford.com will buy Ford.biz, Dell.com will soon have dell.biz. Are they any better off for .biz? Of course not.

Sure, some new people will take advantage of .biz domains. But now users have to remember even longer addresses for each website. Let's see, did I want to go to Shopping.com, shopping.org, shopping.net, shopping.biz or shopping.info? Enough already!

Re:Oh Puh-leez

[smaughster]

>. Let's see, did I want to go to Shopping.com, shopping.org, shopping.net, shopping.biz or shopping.info? Enough already!

Actually, this is a consequence of earlier mess-ups with domain names. I mean, we are currently "blessed" with domain names which are either regionally focussed (.uk etc.) or fall into a few large categories (.com/.org). In my opinion, regional domain names do not really make sense, since the whole point about internet is its global reach. Furthermore, the most well known domain names (.com, .org) are used as collection bins where everyone with a site wants to fall in. It would make much more sense if the rules for domain name categories were held more strict and if these categories were made more clear.

I mean, the distinction between .gov and .edu is clear, but .com or .biz? But if we keep holding on to the "few different domain names is good" idea, instead of "quite a few easy but understandle domain names is good" then this problem will remain.

Re:Oh Puh-leez

[mpe]

Actually, this is a consequence of earlier mess-ups with domain names. I mean, we are currently "blessed" with domain names which are either regionally focussed (.uk etc.) or fall into a few large categories (.com/.org)

Except that .com, .net, .org have in effect been treated as .misc for quite a few years.

In my opinion, regional domain names do not really make sense, since the whole point about internet is its global reach.

On the contrary it's non geographic domains which make little sense for a whole set of things. Especially the sale of physical goods, even for non physical goods such as downloadable software or "ebooks" the physical location of the supplier is an important issue both in what currency you use and in the exact contract of sale which is entered into.
Telephones and "snail mail" also has "global reach", but you don't see demands for everyone to use non geographic telephone numbers and postal addresses (Typically if someone want's a less or even non geographic telephone number or postal address they pay extra for it. Ditto if it has some kind of "vanity content".)

A nice mail I received from VeriSign...

[sl8r]

Check it out:

Dear .biz Requester:

VeriSign understands the personal and professional significance of having a unique online presence. It's our pledge to keep you completely informed about the status of your .biz domain name applications.

As you may be aware, the Superior Court of Los Angeles, CA, issued a preliminary injunction on October 11th temporarily preventing the activation of certain .biz domain names. Consequently, the .biz Registry, NeuLevel, has "frozen" any domain names where:

1) Multiple Domain Name Applications (DNAs) were submitted for the same domain name by one individual.

2) DNAs were submitted for the same domain name by multiple individuals.

3) One or more Trademark Notification (TN) claims and at least one DNA were submitted for the same domain name.

For any "frozen" domain names, the registrant has not been selected and NeuLevel has not yet announced when the random selection of registrants will begin. In addition, NeuLevel has not stated how the frozen names will or will not appear in the .biz WHOis database. The .biz domain names you requested that have been "frozen" are listed at the end of this email.

VeriSign is committed to giving you everything you need for success on the Web. We'll post any updates we receive from NeuLevel at http://newdomains.networksolutions.com. If you have any specific questions or concerns about NeuLevel's domain "freezing" process, please visit www.neulevel.com or e-mail them at support@neulevel.biz

For those wondering what domain I registered: It's my last name. Isn't it so that family names win over trademarks in a domain name dispute?

Here's to hoping it is...

Re:Damned Spammers..........

[PyroMosh]

So true... I run a lot of sites among them, some adult sites and what we've all been waiting for is some kind of adult oriented TLD. .sex or .xxx or .whatever. I mean what does it take?

- The sex industry wants an adult TLD
- US Congress wants it
- Keep our kids safe censor the net extreamists want it.

I havn't heard anyone that DOESN'T want it! When ICANN had their little circle-jerk summit last year to discus something like 30 or so sudgested new TLDs, everyone was CERTAIN which ones they'd pick! And did they pick even one of the obviously most useful ones to giving ORDER to the net? No. It's times like this that I just want to go back to dialup BBSes! I wish that ICANN would handle domains the way that 800 numbers are handled. You CAN'T buy or sell them. If it's available, you can register it, but if you don't want it any more, you can't transfer it to another party, it just goes back into the pool. The only exception is if it's owned by a business and the business changes hands.

If you asked me, that's the way to do it. It'll take care of the cybersquating problem right there.

I've been seeing .biz for a long, long time!

[asackett]

Open Root Server Confederation has been showing the first, original, REAL .biz for a long time now. I will never see any of Neulevel's colliders.

I Can Abandon ICANN, So Can You. Use the name servers of the Open Root Server Confederation.

Personally...

[dimator]

I'm waiting for .jiz for all the porn sites I frequent.