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Angry Black Man writes: "November 7, 2001 marks a new historic event in domain name suffixes. Neulevel's press release is reporting that the .biz domains went live last night at 12:00." And if you can follow that link, I guess they're live for you too. Anyone going to buy a .biz domain? .info might be used, but .biz just sounds silly/sleazy to me.
scientology.biz!
Lookup ANY .biz domain, even random characters. It resolves, to 209.173.53.173, which the web server there says basically: "Hey, want to buy this domain?"
Now to me, That is just NOT acceptable, and totally is NOT how DNS for a TLD should be done!
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James Brents
This sucks
.biz is a redundant domain and a blatant money making scheme for Neulevel.
.com over to .us or another country code over a five year period. Trademarks are register on a country by country basic and domains should be too.
.biz will die in the ass anyway, so my little rant doesn't do anything much any.
Name a business that's not a commercial entity or a not for profit organization. There aren't any. Hence
If namespace limits are a concern, then fix the registration policies in the US. In Au, a clever fellow called Robery Elz banned the registration of generic words, and limited the amount of domains a single company could use. This would go some way towards solving the problem.
So would migrating every
Or including multipek fields (Apple (computer) as in computer products, Apple (records) as in music) in a new namespace.
Oh well. I think
How many domains to we really need? This is sooo obviously a marketing ploy to get everyone to spend more money on domains they don't need. Owners of Ford.com will buy Ford.biz, Dell.com will soon have dell.biz. Are they any better off for .biz? Of course not.
.biz domains. But now users have to remember even longer addresses for each website. Let's see, did I want to go to Shopping.com, shopping.org, shopping.net, shopping.biz or shopping.info? Enough already!
Sure, some new people will take advantage of
As registrar for the new TLD Neulevel will undoubtedly make a TON of money as companies with significantly valuable trademarks rush to protect the value of their IP by registering all possible .your_TLD_here preceded by their trademark.
Or am I just a cynic?
utter rubbish
I can't imagine this being very successful. .com has become synonymous with the entire internet. Heck, internet startup's are even called "dotcoms" more often then not. I'd be willing to make a sizeable bet that the .com on the back of your address is more important then whatever's in front. Think about all the nonsensical names on the internet. Yahoo! springs to mind, and for that matter what does "Amazon" have to do with selling books? What makes those names successful is the fact that they are easy to remember and easy to spell.
.biz will have against it from the very start is the fact that there will always be a more marketable .com version for whatever name you can come up with. What we really need, for obvious reasons, is .xxx
One other thing
Cheers!
-Pointed Stick
November 7, 2001 marks a new historic event in domain name suffixes.
.biz is not important at all.
.com on consumers, nor will it be as profitable.
Why? Did something important happen?? Because
In all seriousness, this is going to be the biggest top-level domain FLOP ever. All this amounts to is more spam for me to report to Spamcop. People need to realize that no other domain is going to have the same effect as
They (ICANN ?) actually refused the opening of the .sex level which would have been a good way to just differentiate between pr0n and other websites...
.biz domain names taken...
Now, I guess that sex.biz will be amongst the very first
Trolling using another account since 2005.
Now the question is...will the existing commercial .com'ers migrate over to .biz? I think it will be some time yet before I try a .biz tld before a .com.
Yeah, but when the time comes and .biz gets well-known, you'd better have your company name registered. I think most of the initial registrations will be of the "better safe than sorry" kind than because .biz is thought to be a clever TLD.
The same goes for other of the new TLDs, of course.
It could be almost anything and nay saying it to death will impose a self-f-blahblah.. Think of it- musicians grab their bands name as a biz, get a tax ID and a bank account.. put up a site for small time distribution. Sell CDs, give away MP3s. If enough bands (replace with alternative underdog in the corp. contractual world) use this method of distribution, it could _possibly_ be one of many small rifts needed to shift the power away from those that lobby for all of these dandy property and censorship laws. Take their money away through new channels, it may adapt into something wonderful. Don't kill the chicken before it's crackin man.
Pego
** "It's not my job to stand between the people talking to me, and the ones listening to me." -- Pego the Jerk
Check it out:
.biz Requester:
.biz domain name applications.
.biz domain names.
Consequently, the .biz Registry, NeuLevel, has "frozen" any domain names where:
.biz WHOis database. The .biz domain names you requested that have been "frozen" are listed at the end of this email.
Dear
VeriSign understands the personal and professional significance of having a unique online presence. It's our pledge to keep you completely informed about the status of your
As you may be aware, the Superior Court of Los Angeles, CA, issued a preliminary injunction on October 11th temporarily preventing the activation of certain
1) Multiple Domain Name Applications (DNAs) were submitted for the same domain name by one individual.
2) DNAs were submitted for the same domain name by multiple individuals.
3) One or more Trademark Notification (TN) claims and at least one DNA were submitted for the same domain name.
For any "frozen" domain names, the registrant has not been selected and NeuLevel has not yet announced when the random selection of registrants will begin. In addition, NeuLevel has not stated how the frozen names will or will not appear in the
VeriSign is committed to giving you everything you need for success on the Web. We'll post any updates we receive from NeuLevel at http://newdomains.networksolutions.com. If you have any specific questions or concerns about NeuLevel's domain "freezing" process, please visit www.neulevel.com or e-mail them at support@neulevel.biz
For those wondering what domain I registered: It's my last name. Isn't it so that family names win over trademarks in a domain name dispute?
Here's to hoping it is...
...fuckedcompany.com. fucked.biz would be so much easier to type! And so much more appropriate...
Shaun
Thanks to the War on Drugs, it's easier to buy meth than it is to buy cold medicine!
So true... I run a lot of sites among them, some adult sites and what we've all been waiting for is some kind of adult oriented TLD. .sex or .xxx or .whatever. I mean what does it take?
- The sex industry wants an adult TLD
- US Congress wants it
- Keep our kids safe censor the net extreamists want it.
I havn't heard anyone that DOESN'T want it! When ICANN had their little circle-jerk summit last year to discus something like 30 or so sudgested new TLDs, everyone was CERTAIN which ones they'd pick! And did they pick even one of the obviously most useful ones to giving ORDER to the net? No. It's times like this that I just want to go back to dialup BBSes! I wish that ICANN would handle domains the way that 800 numbers are handled. You CAN'T buy or sell them. If it's available, you can register it, but if you don't want it any more, you can't transfer it to another party, it just goes back into the pool. The only exception is if it's owned by a business and the business changes hands.
If you asked me, that's the way to do it. It'll take care of the cybersquating problem right there.
Touch everywhere, even when inappropriate.
hmm... well i did actually register this through joker.com just to see what would happen.
heh
fun and chaos
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I support Elz, but do you have ANY idea of how F***KED the Australian registry are? They are hell to deal with, and unforunatly Elz just makes it worse, if we had a competent resitrar then Elz's rules would be great. However the Australian government has chosen F**ked resistry over reasnoble rules and forcebly removed Elz's control over the .au
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I'm waiting for .jiz for all the porn sites I frequent.
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
Well the Amazon Rain Forest had a lot of trees, Amazon.com sell a lot of books which means there are now less trees in the Amazon Rain Forest so I guess what they are saying is
"We transfer the Rain Forests to your bookshelf - Amazon because bio-diversity should be read and not seen"
:)
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Yes thats right, aiming at the secret services and terrorist organisations around the world, the TLD for them its...
.end
Yes the new "Emperors new Domain" domain has all of the advantages of traditional domain names and so much less.
No DNS... yes thats right register your
No connection, yes this is the TLD for those organisations that don't connect to the internet. Got a closed loop controlling your nuclear deterent ? No worries now you can hang out with those cool (but sadly unemployed)
"I love the fact that I can't be found" - Mr Bin Ladle
"Not interested, we like our systems easy to hack" - Mr Cyril Ian Arthur
"My business was a total flop, it really is impossibly to find" - Mr Peter Orn head of sex.end
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Lets say all SPAM from non .biz domains is illegal and its legal from the .biz domain, meaning i would only need to filter .biz mail out.
When does life get so simpel ?
Quazion
The root of the problem is the idea that one level of hierarchization is enough to solve everything down to the institution level. It's the same problem as unix, were you have about 10,000 files in /bin /usr/bin and other choice locales in the namespace.
I guess people just have trouble thinking in two dimensions. But honest, people, its easier...
What I'd like to see is at least a two level hierarchy, so you have institutions organized in to logical groups:
www.ford.cars
www.gm.cars
www.dell.comp
www.gateway.comp
www.yahoo.portal
www.go.portal
www.google.search
www.lycos.search
etc. Makes a lot more sense to me, but the trouble is you have a lot more administrative overhead. It also solves the multiple companies with the same name problem.
DH
biz is the same, phonetically speaking, as "bise" meaning kiss.
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How about the following for TLD's:
.£ et. al. )
/.'s, let's pool our money and set this up!
.© - for example, riaa.©, mpaa.©
.® - for all the corporations to have product domains (kleenex.®, q-tip.®)
.$ - for all the make-money-quick spammers (they seem to be largly US, but if needed, we can localize them with
Come on fellow
www.eFax.com are spammers
Those that promote their product usually have a product worth promoting, support it well and place the value of the business on that product and support.
Those that promote their name are usually the kind that are just out to get money anyway they can, including all of the practices that we've all grown to know and hate here on Slashdot; strong IP manipulation, questionable anti-competative practices and legislative and judicial buyouts.
.BIZ sounds like the kind of name the second type of business would like.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
A while ago, I had thought up a domain called "show.com" for a reason I'm not quite ready to release just yet. It was obviously taken. When register.com said I could pre-register show.biz, I was happy as hell. I registered it not even thinking about the fact that I would now own a very popular and much wanted domain for entertainment purposes (showbiz!) It would even appear that there is a copyright on the name "show.biz" for the purposes of entertainment. I have no intentions of using this for entertainment purposes at all, but I already have about 6 Intellectual Property claims against me for the domain. I imagine if I am actually awarded the domain when it is all said and done, I will have lawsuits to contend with.
Anyone got some advice?
Thanks.
Tobin
SL33ZE - Artificial Intelligence is No Match For Natural Stupidity -
Is it just me, or is the commercial greed machine putting the cart before the horse, here? DNS was never meant to support a plethora of TLDs. The push for 20, 30.. or 300 new TLDs will require a directory service (which I'm sure M$ will be MORE than happy to provide).
Don't you think we should hold off on creating new TLDs until AFTER we've created an Internet Directory System (or something) to replace DNS?
And I should also mention that if you are looking for someone's web site, you really only have a few choices today. What is National Semiconductor's main web site URL? Anyone care to guess? How many guesses will it take if we have 30 more TLDs?
Needless to say, I really think adding TLDs is not a good idea for DNS.
Vortran out
Knowledge is like ignorance.. too much can be just as bad as not enough.
Neulevel.biz has actually resolved for a few months now. Today, all the other .biz domains went live..
.inc, .llc, .ltd, .gmbh (if they allow more than three bytes), .sa, and so on?
.npo for non-profit organizations.
And maybe
"How many light bulbs does it take to change a person?" --BMcC-->
We can go through the entire cycle all over again. The Industry Standard will.. oh, wait.. uhh.. "Smart Company" will tout the virtues of new and innovative
The fearless among us will leave our cushy, well-paid jobs at established companies (wait, there aren't many cushy jobs left, are there?), to try our luck on the merry-go-wheel of the Dot-Biz economy.
After a while, Microsoft will gobble up the first few big Dot-Biz companies. The rest will go through all their funding with no profits to show for it. Most will tank. Angry investors will file lawsuits, alleging that they were misled by exorbitant claims of dot.biz companies.
A few survivors will limp along, and a few will survive. Eventually, someone will come up with the idea of a new top-level domain...
.hyp, anyone?
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
With all the spam I've received on it, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I hope that no one will buy this sucker due to the crap these loons are trying to pull.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I keep mistyping .BIZ as .BIX. Can we get NeuLevel to mirror .biz into .bix for the fumble-fingers crowd? It would sure help allieve a lot of confusion.
Edith Keeler Must Die
But mainly because I've got a squajillion spams sitting in my spamtrap telling me I *could* buy one.
.biz with "Shy About You're Pacakge?" Feh.
Makes the whole TLD smell bad to me already. And no, I haven't checked to see if the spams are coming from anybody with a legitimate business related to the rollout. It's just an irrational gut feeling; I now associate
Slashdot's token middle-aged housewife
Seriously, you should have a policy where you revoke domains which have bouncing contact emails for more than, say, 30 days.
Of course if networksolutions did this, 75% of their domains would get deleted...
Not really. It can be voluntary. Most sex sites would love to be in a .xxx domain.
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.