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KDE Wins 3 awards
Linux Journal has just posted who won its awards this time - and KDE got 3 of them: Konqueror, KDE-2, and KDevelop. Congratulations to the KDE team and to all their supporters.
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KDE has come a long ways since its inception and I applaud the developers that have worked so hard to bring it up to this point. It offers a nice UI that's intuitive for users of either macOS or windows to get used to. And it's pretty.
Things that don't get much press, though, are the fast and efficient windowmanagers that, IMO, are able to accomplish a lot more. What about fvwm2, a completely customizable and scriptable windowmanager. Or ion, recently published on slashdot. The folks that worked on windowmaker also have done a great job.
All in all, I think that the developers working on KDE have done a stunning job, but it's equally amazing that new linux users aren't exposed as much to the "choice" that makes the linux operating system what it is. I switch windowmanagers every so often, and each of gets things done in its own unique way. I think the cake goes to fvwm for its efficiency, though. Too bad it doesn't get press because it's not as "pretty" as other wms out there.
when i first installed kde2 it took me about five minutes to work out how to change the screen resolution and then i had to reset kde before it took effect. and don't get me started on the default setup's choice of font in konqueror.
the only thing that kde could win on is virtual desktops, but now that winxp can be patched to support these, it's getting left behind.
but like i said, it's getting better. at least linux developers are finally getting over those fucking 'where do you want to go tommorow?' cracks and are starting to create good looking AND useable windows managers.
still, well done to the kde team and best of luck for v3.
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It would be nice if the editor showed which products he compared, and why the others did not get the award. and as far as the "Office Application
" section goes, was he only comparing word processors? what about gnumeric? gnumeric 0.75 is at a point right now where its so sweet, it makes your teeth hurt. and did he even try galeon. as far as the browsing experience goes, its my opinion that galeon is much better designed to be a web browser.
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What's funny is some of the KDE/Kmail advocates were ragging on Evolution yesterday because it looks like Outlook, yet KDE itself looks like the spitting image of Windows..
Why do I keep typing pythong?
i disagree some 150%
you want KDE look (and feel) like Mac ? enable Desktop menu, and remove taskbar.
you want KDE look (and feel) almost like WindowMaker/Afterstep ? enable WindowMaker Applets extension, and remove taskbar
the only thing you can't disable is the KParts/DCOP underlying system (well.. i think you can't). but i thought the aim of Linux on Desktop (which is the purpose of KDE), was to provide a component model implementation in order to allow high level interaction between applications (which is all the GNOME/KDE/GNUStep-WindowMaker projects do... using different languages, APIs, and having different set of features).
sure, if you want less features and les memory usage, you can stick to old and light AfterStep or FVWM (though IceWM and others appear to be better)
as for the binary size for KDE or problems of slow launching or whatever, one of the biggest problems of QT/KDE for the time being is that they are written in C++, and gcc is far from good at compiling C++ (which gave all the fuss about 2.96 and 3.x versions). usually distros don't even build kde using objprelink. wait a bit that all those things improve (and they are close to), and i think u'll see a great improvment in KDE performances.
I truely believe that KDE has legitimate performance issues. I use it myself, but I've found that on the same hardware, a window manager like fvwm performs considerably better than the window manager from KDE does. And as far as web browsers go, Galeon is far, far less sluggish than Konqueror is.
I really hope that in future versions of KDE that they start tackling the performance issue in preference to creeping featurism.Konqueror is great, but until it doesn't make my 128Mb PIII-750 machine thrash when de-iconifying a window, I'm going to be using Galeon.
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I think that KDE definitely deserves the awards, but OTOH I hope that this doesn't lead to a "we'll add even more cool features" mindset among the developers.
KDE is nowhere near Mozilla's release problems, but I fear that they could fall in the feature-pit, just as Mozilla.
Guys, add features thar are USEFUL TO MOST USERS, anything beyond that should be packaged as an add-on.
Resist the featuritis temptation, use the force!
This is related to the fact that the dynamic linker is slow when it comes down to resolving loads of C++ symnbols.
It's a deficiency recent versions binutils fix - try the (WARNING: not yet 100% stable) stuff from rawhide.
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Why is it that you say WinXP "stole" from KDE, but KDE should "copy" from GNOME and XP? Curious choice of language. What did KDE lose when WinXP adopted the KDE taskbar grouping?
Oops, I'm trolling, right? Ah, the hell with it, it's only karma. Mod me, I am still full of love for KDE. ;-p
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Why is this KDE centric?
A lot of things won awards. Yes KDE won 3, and good for them. But why does the story only include the KDE part. All the other awardees were surely deserving too.
So, I'm saying it. Caongratulations to ALL the entities who won awards from Linux Journal. You ALL deserve it. Keep up the good work!
-jay
IDE's can help find and resolve some problems a hell of a lot quicker than CLI tools. It can also generate quality code or program templates.
Before trolling again in such a cute manner, why don't you check out this and this.
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