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KDE Wins 3 awards

Linux Journal has just posted who won its awards this time - and KDE got 3 of them: Konqueror, KDE-2, and KDevelop. Congratulations to the KDE team and to all their supporters.

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  1. i'm going to suffer for this but... by posmon · · Score: 3, Insightful
    kde *is* getting better, but compared to winxp's interface? forget arguments about the underlying os (it's stable, ok!) or fisher price looks (you *can* turn them off!), just the physical organisation of the various functions.

    when i first installed kde2 it took me about five minutes to work out how to change the screen resolution and then i had to reset kde before it took effect. and don't get me started on the default setup's choice of font in konqueror.

    the only thing that kde could win on is virtual desktops, but now that winxp can be patched to support these, it's getting left behind.

    but like i said, it's getting better. at least linux developers are finally getting over those fucking 'where do you want to go tommorow?' cracks and are starting to create good looking AND useable windows managers.

    still, well done to the kde team and best of luck for v3.

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    1. Re:i'm going to suffer for this but... by posmon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      i had no intention of sounding at all troll-like, apologies if i did so. the last thing i want is start an uber-subthread over what is (i think you'll agree) a rather minor point.

      i appreciate the difference between kde and x. however, the resolution setting can be changed from within kde; my point is that the link to this option is in a somewhat unusual place and that the problem could be solved merely by replacing the location of the link within the menu tree.

      the whole point of a desktop environment is to simplify using the computer for the users benefit, not so that they have to browse through a vast array of options just to find a simple setting.

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  2. Would be nice by datazone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be nice if the editor showed which products he compared, and why the others did not get the award. and as far as the "Office Application
    " section goes, was he only comparing word processors? what about gnumeric? gnumeric 0.75 is at a point right now where its so sweet, it makes your teeth hurt. and did he even try galeon. as far as the browsing experience goes, its my opinion that galeon is much better designed to be a web browser.

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  3. Re:KDE is just a Windowsalike by Karn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's funny is some of the KDE/Kmail advocates were ragging on Evolution yesterday because it looks like Outlook, yet KDE itself looks like the spitting image of Windows..

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  4. Re:KDE is just a Windowsalike by loopkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i disagree some 150%
    you want KDE look (and feel) like Mac ? enable Desktop menu, and remove taskbar.
    you want KDE look (and feel) almost like WindowMaker/Afterstep ? enable WindowMaker Applets extension, and remove taskbar

    the only thing you can't disable is the KParts/DCOP underlying system (well.. i think you can't). but i thought the aim of Linux on Desktop (which is the purpose of KDE), was to provide a component model implementation in order to allow high level interaction between applications (which is all the GNOME/KDE/GNUStep-WindowMaker projects do... using different languages, APIs, and having different set of features).
    sure, if you want less features and les memory usage, you can stick to old and light AfterStep or FVWM (though IceWM and others appear to be better)
    as for the binary size for KDE or problems of slow launching or whatever, one of the biggest problems of QT/KDE for the time being is that they are written in C++, and gcc is far from good at compiling C++ (which gave all the fuss about 2.96 and 3.x versions). usually distros don't even build kde using objprelink. wait a bit that all those things improve (and they are close to), and i think u'll see a great improvment in KDE performances.

  5. Hey, that wasn't a troll... by CrayBeast · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I truely believe that KDE has legitimate performance issues. I use it myself, but I've found that on the same hardware, a window manager like fvwm performs considerably better than the window manager from KDE does. And as far as web browsers go, Galeon is far, far less sluggish than Konqueror is.

    I really hope that in future versions of KDE that they start tackling the performance issue in preference to creeping featurism.Konqueror is great, but until it doesn't make my 128Mb PIII-750 machine thrash when de-iconifying a window, I'm going to be using Galeon.

  6. Re:But does it have to start that slow? by bero-rh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is related to the fact that the dynamic linker is slow when it comes down to resolving loads of C++ symnbols.
    It's a deficiency recent versions binutils fix - try the (WARNING: not yet 100% stable) stuff from rawhide.

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  7. Re:XPs interface is horrible by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is it that you say WinXP "stole" from KDE, but KDE should "copy" from GNOME and XP? Curious choice of language. What did KDE lose when WinXP adopted the KDE taskbar grouping?

    Oops, I'm trolling, right? Ah, the hell with it, it's only karma. Mod me, I am still full of love for KDE. ;-p

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  8. Come on Guys! by Garfunkel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is this KDE centric?

    A lot of things won awards. Yes KDE won 3, and good for them. But why does the story only include the KDE part. All the other awardees were surely deserving too.

    So, I'm saying it. Caongratulations to ALL the entities who won awards from Linux Journal. You ALL deserve it. Keep up the good work!

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  9. A comparison of Linux IDEs by Alrocket · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I like quiche.

    IDE's can help find and resolve some problems a hell of a lot quicker than CLI tools. It can also generate quality code or program templates.

    Before trolling again in such a cute manner, why don't you check out this and this.

    Quick summary of the 2nd link:

    How do some of the integrated development environments (IDEs) for Linux rate, especially when compared with old favorites like Emacs? And does Linux need IDEs at all? Sam Mikes dons his flameproof suit as he investigates this controversial topic, comparing Metrowerks's CodeWarrior, Cygnus's GNUPro Toolkit, and John Lindal's Code Crusader with XEmacs and Microsoft Visual Studio. (6,000 words)

    rgds,
    Al.