Posted by
HeUnique
on from the congratulations-to-kde-team dept.
Linux Journal has just posted who won its awards this time - and KDE got 3 of them: Konqueror, KDE-2, and KDevelop. Congratulations to the KDE team and to all their supporters.
i'm going to suffer for this but...
by
posmon
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· Score: 3, Insightful
kde *is* getting better, but compared to winxp's interface? forget arguments about the underlying os (it's stable, ok!) or fisher price looks (you *can* turn them off!), just the physical organisation of the various functions.
when i first installed kde2 it took me about five minutes to work out how to change the screen resolution and then i had to reset kde before it took effect. and don't get me started on the default setup's choice of font in konqueror.
the only thing that kde could win on is virtual desktops, but now that winxp can be patched to support these, it's getting left behind.
but like i said, it's getting better. at least linux developers are finally getting over those fucking 'where do you want to go tommorow?' cracks and are starting to create good looking AND useable windows managers.
still, well done to the kde team and best of luck for v3.
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Would be nice
by
datazone
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It would be nice if the editor showed which products he compared, and why the others did not get the award. and as far as the "Office Application
" section goes, was he only comparing word processors? what about gnumeric? gnumeric 0.75 is at a point right now where its so sweet, it makes your teeth hurt. and did he even try galeon. as far as the browsing experience goes, its my opinion that galeon is much better designed to be a web browser.
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Re:KDE is just a Windowsalike
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loopkin
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i disagree some 150%
you want KDE look (and feel) like Mac ? enable Desktop menu, and remove taskbar.
you want KDE look (and feel) almost like WindowMaker/Afterstep ? enable WindowMaker Applets extension, and remove taskbar
the only thing you can't disable is the KParts/DCOP underlying system (well.. i think you can't). but i thought the aim of Linux on Desktop (which is the purpose of KDE), was to provide a component model implementation in order to allow high level interaction between applications (which is all the GNOME/KDE/GNUStep-WindowMaker projects do... using different languages, APIs, and having different set of features).
sure, if you want less features and les memory usage, you can stick to old and light AfterStep or FVWM (though IceWM and others appear to be better)
as for the binary size for KDE or problems of slow launching or whatever, one of the biggest problems of QT/KDE for the time being is that they are written in C++, and gcc is far from good at compiling C++ (which gave all the fuss about 2.96 and 3.x versions). usually distros don't even build kde using objprelink. wait a bit that all those things improve (and they are close to), and i think u'll see a great improvment in KDE performances.
Re:But does it have to start that slow?
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bero-rh
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This is related to the fact that the dynamic linker is slow when it comes down to resolving loads of C++ symnbols.
It's a deficiency recent versions binutils fix - try the (WARNING: not yet 100% stable) stuff from rawhide.
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Re:XPs interface is horrible
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Rogerborg
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Why is it that you say WinXP "stole" from KDE, but KDE should "copy" from GNOME and XP? Curious choice of language. What did KDE lose when WinXP adopted the KDE taskbar grouping?
Oops, I'm trolling, right? Ah, the hell with it, it's only karma. Mod me, I am still full of love for KDE.;-p
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Come on Guys!
by
Garfunkel
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Why is this KDE centric?
A lot of things won awards. Yes KDE won 3, and good for them. But why does the story only include the KDE part. All the other awardees were surely deserving too.
So, I'm saying it. Caongratulations to ALL the entities who won awards from Linux Journal. You ALL deserve it. Keep up the good work!
when i first installed kde2 it took me about five minutes to work out how to change the screen resolution and then i had to reset kde before it took effect. and don't get me started on the default setup's choice of font in konqueror.
the only thing that kde could win on is virtual desktops, but now that winxp can be patched to support these, it's getting left behind.
but like i said, it's getting better. at least linux developers are finally getting over those fucking 'where do you want to go tommorow?' cracks and are starting to create good looking AND useable windows managers.
still, well done to the kde team and best of luck for v3.
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It would be nice if the editor showed which products he compared, and why the others did not get the award. and as far as the "Office Application
" section goes, was he only comparing word processors? what about gnumeric? gnumeric 0.75 is at a point right now where its so sweet, it makes your teeth hurt. and did he even try galeon. as far as the browsing experience goes, its my opinion that galeon is much better designed to be a web browser.
Its spelt "L-I-N-U-X", but pronunced as "Free Beer"
i disagree some 150%
you want KDE look (and feel) like Mac ? enable Desktop menu, and remove taskbar.
you want KDE look (and feel) almost like WindowMaker/Afterstep ? enable WindowMaker Applets extension, and remove taskbar
the only thing you can't disable is the KParts/DCOP underlying system (well.. i think you can't). but i thought the aim of Linux on Desktop (which is the purpose of KDE), was to provide a component model implementation in order to allow high level interaction between applications (which is all the GNOME/KDE/GNUStep-WindowMaker projects do... using different languages, APIs, and having different set of features).
sure, if you want less features and les memory usage, you can stick to old and light AfterStep or FVWM (though IceWM and others appear to be better)
as for the binary size for KDE or problems of slow launching or whatever, one of the biggest problems of QT/KDE for the time being is that they are written in C++, and gcc is far from good at compiling C++ (which gave all the fuss about 2.96 and 3.x versions). usually distros don't even build kde using objprelink. wait a bit that all those things improve (and they are close to), and i think u'll see a great improvment in KDE performances.
This is related to the fact that the dynamic linker is slow when it comes down to resolving loads of C++ symnbols.
It's a deficiency recent versions binutils fix - try the (WARNING: not yet 100% stable) stuff from rawhide.
This message is provided under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
Why is it that you say WinXP "stole" from KDE, but KDE should "copy" from GNOME and XP? Curious choice of language. What did KDE lose when WinXP adopted the KDE taskbar grouping?
Oops, I'm trolling, right? Ah, the hell with it, it's only karma. Mod me, I am still full of love for KDE. ;-p
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Why is this KDE centric?
A lot of things won awards. Yes KDE won 3, and good for them. But why does the story only include the KDE part. All the other awardees were surely deserving too.
So, I'm saying it. Caongratulations to ALL the entities who won awards from Linux Journal. You ALL deserve it. Keep up the good work!
-jay