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Australian Censorship Legislation

danny writes: "Legislation is before the New South Wales (Australia) state parliament that would make it a criminal offense to publish material unsuitable for children online. Other states will be passing similar laws, as this is part of a uniform national approach. So please help us stop this! Note: earlier Federal legislation in Australia covered Internet Service Providers, not end-users. But this law follows that in attempting to directly transfer the film censorship system to the Net - one has to wonder how many of the politicians involved actually use the Net."

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  1. as bad as the french by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    How are they going to enforce this on the rest of Planet Earth?

    I hate to say this, but it almost sounds like someone's been in the outback a bit too long. I am waiting to see someone try to do the same as the French have done in the Yahoo case.

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  2. Do politicians truly believe in this stuff? by foqn1bo · · Score: 3, Insightful



    Or is it more of an attempt to latch on to something that they can demonize to make voters feel more at ease? I mean seriously, it seems it would be absurd for them to tell us we couldn't say on the street anything that was deemed unsuitable for children. What about swearing in a room with kids? Bad manners perhaps but not a legislative matter at all, most would agree.

    The internet is treated differently because it is a new thing that most politicians don't understand. People have been talking with their mouths for years. But look... "Big internet new and scary. Ugh. The internet is power-mad. She want take moral perogative away from parents." It is a lot easier for people to blame what's new and mysterious (to some anyway). I can't stand it when people go off about kids being exposed to internet porn. Kids have been swiping their parents' stag flicks and magazines for such a long time it may as well have become herreditary tradition. And the pipe bombs? Please. Apparently legislators never went to school (at least not a public one).

    1. Re:Do politicians truly believe in this stuff? by mgv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The sad thing here will be the first person that the government decides to make a test case of. If we are lucky, they will be hosting some child porn - but most of that is being swapped in things like peer to peer networks that will be hard to track down.

      Which leaves some poor sod who will get nailed for publishing something dubious, but probably not that bad.

      Hands up anyone who thinks this will make child porn go away

      Michael.

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  3. Re:How do the Aussies feel about this? by [Bruce] · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We just had a national vote, and unfortunately, the wrong people won (IMHO). Yes thats right the infamous sen. Alston is still in parliment. This really worries me, polititions are going on at the moment about the issue with refugees affecting our national image. What about something like this? It just proves there are too many people making decisions about things they dont understand.

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  4. Re:why is this necessarily wrong? by netnerd.caffinated · · Score: 3, Informative

    its wrong because:
    1. your restricting fredom of speech
    2. "unsuitable for children" could have a broad meaning & used to restrict things of a political nature... or have it's meaning streched, much like the US's terrorism laws & hacking.
    3. how the hell are they going to police this?

    Also one interesting fact is that they say politicians don't respond or take much notice of email , so its suggested to write handwritten letters... now why would this be? maybe its because politicians have no clue when it comes to computers! so incompetent they can't even check their e-mail on a regular basis. It's a bloody outrage & i hope this bill isn't passed

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  5. That's Incredible... by Meffan · · Score: 5, Informative
    The list of things that the bill covers:


    "[A]dult themes" include: "verbal references to and depictions associated with issues such as suicide, crime, corruption, marital problems, emotional trauma, drug and alcohol dependency, death and serious illness, racism, religious issues".


    And don't just think this is to "get" people who put stuff up any old how, oh no - "[I]f you place material unsuitable for minors on a web page, even on a password protected section of your site and give the password only to your adult friends, you could be prosecuted under criminal law."


    Is this for real? I thought adult content was the only content on the net that made real money?


    I'm guessing we're not going to be seeing "Genuine Aussie Amatuers" on the net for much longer then. Any Australians out there who can say how likely this bill is to pass? If it happens in one place it could happen in others...

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  6. People outside NSW? by Pseudonym · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Danny, what should people outside NSW do? Presumably writing to someone else's local member probably wouldn't make a difference.

    Should I see my (Victorian) MP now or wait for legislation to be introduced here?

    I guess I could write to the NSW Attorney General and thank them for killing the local internet industry in favour of other states...

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  7. Re:How do the Aussies feel about this? by Pseudonym · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Labor party was in favour of the Online Services Act too. Yes, Senator Alston is still a luddite and still in power, but in reality it didn't matter who won as far as this issue is concerned.

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  8. is internet for children only? by moksliukas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This might be troll/offtopic, whatever, but while reading this, a very weird and interesting thought struck me...

    Why is it neccessary to suit the internet for children needs? Was the internet designed to be used only for children so we have to ban anything that is not children appropriate?

    Banning content that is not appropriate for children would be very difficult to police (I'd say impossible, but who am I to know?). Would it be just simpler to ban children using the internet without the aid of the guardian or parent. Sort of shift the whole issue to the other side. I know some countries have a law that states that children can't be on the street at night alone without parent or guardian. And that makes mush more effective and easier than just plainly making streets at night kid-safe.

    Just a thought.

  9. Holy fuck by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now I can't go to Australia, or I'll be arrested... for using the subject line "Holy fuck".

    Before you accuse me of crying wolf, I'd better point out that "Holy fuck" is dangerous not because of the "fuck", but because of the "Holy". "Religious issues" are one of the criteria that the NSW Office of Film and Literature Classification uses to decide what is "adult content".

    This is a Bill aimed not just at porn, but at any discussion of adult matters in any forum, even one which tries to exclude children. Here's a non-exhaustive list. I've highlighted one word which I find particularly interesting:

    • "verbal references to and depictions associated with issues such as suicide, crime, corruption, marital problems, emotional trauma, drug and alcohol dependency, death and serious illness, racism, religious issues".

    There's a pretty piece of legislation. Post an article suggesting that the legislators are corrupt, and get locked up purely on that basis. Unthinkable? Time will tell.

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  10. Suicide prevention website baned ? by bug1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So if suicide is an adult theme, then it would have to be illegal to talk about suicide prevention.

    So the following site would be illegal in NSW

    http://www.reachout.asn.au/home.jsp