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Rowing Across the Atlantic

An Anonymous Coward writes: "Wired News has an article about 68 men and women who are rowing across the Atlantic. "All 34 boats in this year's race are equipped with Global Positioning System (GPS) devices, and practically all the rowers have satellite phones and other wireless gadgets with Internet access.""

102 comments

  1. Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on /. by Ieshan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's the purpose of starting in winter? Or are they rowing in the Southern Hemisphere? Even so, this seems like a stupid idea.

    Rowing over a major ocean during the end of storm season through winter is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. I wish they would think before they do stuff like this.

    But I suppose the contestants, I suppose that's what you'd call them, get some sort of rush out of doing crap like this. I just don't understand what kind of rush it is.

    Furthermore, I don't understand why sporting news belongs on /., but that's another story.

  2. Hmm, a great feat, yes by imrdkl · · Score: 1

    But do the GPS and gadgets make it newsworthy? Perhaps the map-reading and navigation skills necessary? Maybe it's the strong and hearty people?

    1. Re:Hmm, a great feat, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, it's an international sporting event. (like the one coming up next year). Leave 'em alone asshole. They're trying.

    2. Re:Hmm, a great feat, yes by Kwikymart · · Score: 1

      Yes, and everyone knows that /. reports on international sporting events! Look out espn!

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  3. Wireless gadgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and practically all the rowers have satellite phones and other wireless gadgets with Internet access

    Good ! they can read slashdot !

  4. A friend did this by Tri0de · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A friend at my old gym (Andrew Halsey) did this. Wanted to point out what an epileptic could do. Of course somebody asked what should happen if had a seizure; his reply (thick Brit Accent)well then I'd make some bloody good time then.." I remember his GPS was a unit aout the size of a briefcase.

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  5. This isn't anything new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing that makes this special is the fact that they are rowing across the atlantic. Endurance and physical strength aren't geeky things either...

  6. Should I be impressed? by rho · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Other than the physical exertion, what's the big deal? This isn't remarkably more dangerous than sitting down at a Nautilus machine for the equivalent ammount of time.

    Once upon a time, there were people who set out across the ocean who didn't know what might appear on the other side of the horizon, never knowing if they would get rich, get killed, or get laid. Those were adventurers. These people are simply fame-seekers.

    Bah.

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    1. Re:Should I be impressed? by nomadic · · Score: 3, Informative

      It sounds less impressive when you consider this guy did the same thing, only swimming.

    2. Re:Should I be impressed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He must have been really wrinkly when he got to France.

    3. Re:Should I be impressed? by Cirvam · · Score: 1

      yeah if he acutally was swimming the whole time. If you read his schedual he was swimming for 8 hours a day in 2 hour blocks. The rest of the time was spent on a ship. Also during inclement weather he rode and excercise cycle.

    4. Re:Should I be impressed? by nomadic · · Score: 2

      8 hours a day against open ocean currents and waves. I consider that impressive.

  7. Wireless access - by mummers · · Score: 1

    Can someone please give me the contract to supply these guys with 802.11b wireless kit?

    Hmmm, just think of all those floating wireless access points...the ultimate roving (rowing?) LAN.

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  8. Gulf stream. by VA+Software · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The race began Oct. 7 at Los Gigantes Harbor in Tenerife, Spain, and ends in Port St. Charles, Barbados.

    Is there a good reason they're rowing against the gulf stream and the prevailing winds?

    As if rowing across the atlantic isn't hard enough already

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    1. Re:Gulf stream. by imrdkl · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's not supposed to be easy. Maybe it's supposed to be fun! those jocks... heh. anything for a thrill. oooh.

    2. Re:Gulf stream. by imrdkl · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      This is not yet comparable to what you refer to. But make no mistake, my sig is with you. Come out and join my sig! You may be as one! Otherwise, go jump in a lake.

    3. Re:Gulf stream. by Stiletto · · Score: 0, Offtopic


      Yea you go, tough guy. Let's "kill the bastard".

      I believe it is at least customary in civilized parts of the world to give someone a fair trial and convict them, before punishing them for a crime. Or does this not apply for "people you really really really don't like"?

    4. Re:Gulf stream. by imrdkl · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      If that happens, so be it. What must be done shall be done, and it seems most of the world agrees with this manhunt. What my sig supposes is that he finds a way to give himself up. A vision? nah. But a possibility.

      Re-alliancing is the way the Afghanis hold their country together, it seems. He may be simply handed over officially. yikes.

      We gotta be ready to face this Test. I dont understand why we are being tested so much lately, but that's just the way it is.

      Now, can we leave it alone? It's just a damn sig, after all. sheesh.

    5. Re:Gulf stream. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about "people who have killed off 5,000 of your fellow citizens"? Where do you draw the line...

    6. Re:Gulf stream. by tiny69 · · Score: 2
      Is there a good reason they're rowing against the gulf stream and the prevailing winds?
      I don't know what you are thinking, but the Gulf Stream runs along the North American continent. The actual course that the rowers will take goes no where near the Gulf Stream. And yes, they will be going with the prevailing winds and currents.

      This map shows the courses that rowers took during a similar race in 1997.
      http://www.challengebusiness.com/row/tracking1997. htm
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    7. Re:Gulf stream. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They're not rowing against the Gulf Stream or against the prevailing winds. The Gulf Stream flows North up the western Atlantic (North American East Coast) and West across the North Atlantic. Since the race is from Spain to the Caribbean, the Gulf Stream won't affect the rowers. The prevailing winds, the Trade Winds, in the East and Mid Atlantic blow in a Westerly direction this time of year. That's why they're starting now. Even if they don't row, they'll eventually be blown to Barbados. Hurricane season has also passed, so it's fairly safe.

      The same conditions that dictate that the race should be done in this season made it inevitable that Columbus would get to America and powered the sailing ship trade by between the Europe, the Caribbean and the Colonies.

    8. Re:Gulf stream. by mother_superius · · Score: 1

      Well, that's what the trial will attempt to determine.

    9. Re:Gulf stream. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it should be pretty damn easy to prove this, so let the trial happen. What's there to lose?

    10. Re:Gulf stream. by mother_superius · · Score: 1

      Yeah; exactly. If he's so guilty, then put him in a court of law. If the government puts up even a small fraction of the evidence they claim to have, it should be more than enough to convict him.

  9. Overboard! by Asahi+Super+Dry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to the article, some of the rowers are opting to just toss their gadgets into the sea to reduce weight. I guess that says something about their actual utility.

    1. Re:Overboard! by bradipo · · Score: 1

      Or rather it shows that they may be getting some kind of sea sickness---imagine rowing across the ocean without any kind of navigation... I suppose if they know how to guide themselves with stars they may be ok.

    2. Re:Overboard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they all die at sea it will be good for the gene pool.

    3. Re:Overboard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If they all die at sea it will be good for the gene pool.

      Unfortunately the global gene pool had already been devastated by generations of US Navy sailors...

  10. Big deal by banky · · Score: 1

    It's still a boat. When someone bicycles across, call me.

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    1. Re:Big deal by VA+Software · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some one crossed the English channel on a tricycle in 1883

      The 1823 duck hunting machine from England (on the same page) is brilliant.

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  11. GPS by agdv · · Score: 0, Troll

    Are they getting spam through their GPS-enabled gadgets?

  12. I wonder... by lexcyber · · Score: 0

    Do they bring back the boats or do they stay in the US?

    And Do they need a workingpermit to row on US soil?

    If they where to row into a house, by misstake. Would that be an act of terrorism?

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    1. Re:I wonder... by BrianW · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone row on the soil?

  13. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sporting news on /. -

    we had chess as an olympic sport once - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/13/114825 9

  14. But do they have OnStar? by Wordsmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    They'll need OnStar if they want ads to notify them of all the great sites around the Atlantic.

  15. Original Record by Overcoat · · Score: 3, Informative

    The original trans-Atlanitc rowing record (Canary Islands to Barbados in 41 days) was set by two New Zealanders, Phil Stubbs, and Robbie Hamill back in 1997. Their fully-laden boat weighed over 2000 pounds. Stubbs later died in a plane crash.

    1. Re:Original Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then there was the German doctor who calculated he could kayak across and drink seawater and live...he lived alright - for about a week after he arrived in the US. I think this was around 1954.

  16. Ocean Rowing Society by Barnum · · Score: 5, Informative

    if you're interested in this sort of thing, I suggest you head over to OceanRowing.com. I worked for the director of the Ocean Rowing Society, Kenneth Crutchlow, for a year compiling metric assloads of data about every single ocean rower who ever attempted a crossing. It was definitely one of the strangest jobs I've ever held, but after spending so much time surrounded by this close knit community of people who want to test the limits of human endurance, you begin to understand what drives someone to want to do this. Every rower has their own personal drama to tell, and it is a riveting experience to hear them describe their lone rowboats amid 50 foot swells in mid-Atlantic hurricanes or having to jump out of their boat to spear fish when food runs out halfway across the Pacific.

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  17. Amir Klink did it solo! by glgraca · · Score: 2, Informative

    A crazy Brazilian called Amir Klink rowed from Africa to Brazil by himself.

  18. wireless internet? by usernumber31337 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see it now:
    "Hey, why aren't you rowing?"
    "I'm posting to slashdot!"

    1. Re:wireless internet? by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      "I'm trying to get post #3,000,000!"

    2. Re: wireless internet? by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      That would be great! We could get a Slashdot interview while they're halfway across.

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  19. all this tells us... by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

    ... is that it's possible to go take a vacation in a remote location to and still stay in touch with the rest of the world and know where you are. Somehow I picture that editorial cartoon with a guy on a beach receiving a fax. Is this story really all that big a deal from a technological standpoint?

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  20. What's with the interactive positions applet? by Kaa42 · · Score: 1

    Why does the people who wrote the interactive map applet on the site think that they need Full Permissions on my JVM? What file IO can they possibly need to do for example. Is it really that difficult to write the manifest to only request the permissions you really need?

    And why is it broadcasting UDP packets to 255.255.255.255 according to Tiny Personal Firewall? Is there something I don't realise about this or is the applet just doing funny stuff?

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  21. Re: by jaavaaguru · · Score: 1

    > This isn't remarkably more dangerous
    > than sitting down at a Nautilus machine for
    > the equivalent ammount of time

    Wow! I never knew *Nautilus* was that dangerous!
    I'll be sticking to Konqueror from now on then.

  22. That's a long extension cord! by emag · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know that my phone and other "electronic gadgets" tend to last a week with light-to-moderate usage. Either these folks are carrying some rather long extension cords, or have something else to recharge all their batteries.

    Either way, I can see why people are opting to toss stuff overboard, as I can't even begin to imagine the additional weight all those chargers would be adding...

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    1. Re:That's a long extension cord! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > or have something else to recharge all their
      > batteries.

      Solar.

  23. Dumbasses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who gives a fuck?

  24. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by john@iastate.edu · · Score: 2
    ... I don't understand why sporting news belongs on /., ...

    Coming soon:

    Husker QB orders pizza using 802.11a during rout!

    Seriously though, I agree, just because some doofus has a <insert random e-gadget here> with them does not make it News for Nerds, blah blah, blah

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  25. Re:Sad Sad News by __aaklbk2114 · · Score: 0

    really? i didn't even think linus liked bill all that much. where did you find this out? what do the rest of you zealots think?

  26. Not about GPS and Satellite Phones... by DaoudaW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the rowers say they are grateful for the wireless perks like GPS and satellite phones, Vose says the gadgets are not giving the rowers an unfair advantage.

    Both Wired and Slashdot seem to emphasize the technology. This is an amazing, grueling physical trial. The tech is for us to follow them and rescue if necessary. Their main tech tool is the business end of an oar.

  27. AP today reports "Ireland Finds US Rowers Boat" by skippywalker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just so happened to have spent a night in Kilkee, Ireland in late September on the night that "Retired Chcago cariologist Nenad Belic, 62, was trying to become the thir person to row a boat from Cape Cod to Europe when he ran into trouble in a storm."
    I don't know if GPS would have helped or not, I can attest to the storm that night. But more than a month later only boat turned up.

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    1. Re:AP today reports "Ireland Finds US Rowers Boat" by SEWilco · · Score: 1
  28. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    They are rowing, as the article says, from tenerife, spain, to barbados.

    That's a near tropical origin (30 degrees N, I think) and a very tropical destination.
    What *I* wanna know is, how do they shit?

  29. The safest form of transport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rowing is probably a lot safer than flying these days, all thanks to /bin/laden...

  30. Free, as in Beer? by Mac+Beckett · · Score: 1

    Welcome to the Open Source Travel Agency...

  31. This line is a bit odd, isn't it? by mupi · · Score: 0
    Clipped from the article:

    "It's torture and can cause a lot of mental anguish," Hamill said. "You adapt to a degree but it's always tough, sleeping for two hours, rowing for two hours and having no sex with the ladies on board. We used a homeopathic remedy and this helped us get going again at the start of a shift. As the race wore on, we had to circle jerk several times to relieve ourselves -- we were just so out of it."

    1. Re:This line is a bit odd, isn't it? by Brian+Boitano · · Score: 1

      we don't say "circle jerk" in nz :P
      it'd be more like "soggy biscuit"

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  32. Well... by Pludodog · · Score: 1

    I think I speak for everyone when I say... Don't these people have anything better to do?

  33. And the Kiwis win again by fredm8 · · Score: 1

    Too bloody right mate. Us Kiwis prove how stupid we really are. Surrounded by water on all sides, we prove that we can conquer someone else's ocean too !!!!!

  34. Southern Hemisphere by sgups · · Score: 1

    Umm maybe u didnt read the article. It said Spain to Barbados. I dont think either lies in southern hemisphere. (Maybe barbados, not sure but I doubt it)

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  35. When I was a kid by sgups · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid we used magnetic compasses and stars to guide us...whats up with the fancy shmancy new fangled stuff

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  36. Rowing the Atlantic is not without danger ... by rigolo · · Score: 1

    Yesterday I read a news artical about a US doctor that tried to row from cape cod to Europe.

    On the 30th of september he went missing (story) and yesterday they found this boat of the coast of Ireland (story). He had all the electronic equipment that the participants of this race have .. but that did not help him ....

    You can see his progress on the Ocean Rowing Society web page until the 30rd of september. On their web site you can also find more information about his journey.

    His younger brother has created a web site with even more information

    So those who say that the electronic equipment makes it easier ... should think again

    Rigolo
  37. No Big News by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2
    This isn't such a big deal - it's simply a marketing ploy to sell more stuff to the masses. This feat was performed many times, over 700 years ago, by Norse explorers. This is without all the modern conveniences of GPS, the Internet - you name it.

    Panzies. :)

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  38. all I can say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is that this post-september-11th fear of flying is really getting out of hand!

  39. SWIMMING across the atlantic... by Click+0+Nett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A few years back a guy swam accross... He pushed a covered sled that had a bed, radio, GPS, etc... Took him about a month to get across. Sorry I dont have more info, does anybody remember this guy? He might be on the rowing team.

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  40. Making use of the medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the leading teams has also been employing the web for promotional, informational and sponsorship purchases. The sites really nice as well (apart form the long url) - www.43degreeswest.co.uk

  41. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see that as a problem. After all, you'd be drifting around in the world's largest toilet. Just hope you don't leave a floater in the bowl because nature takes a while to flush...

  42. Newsworthiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe its newsworthy because its never been done?

    That is the common theme for everything on Slashdot (except that which Katz writes about).

  43. Losers! by letchhausen · · Score: 1

    What a bunch of pussies using phones and GPS. If it was a real challenge they would just set out and then we'd just wait till someone arrived. Gutless simps.

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  44. Amyr Klink was the first who did it. by jtoj · · Score: 1

    Amyr Klink was the first man to row across the Atlantic, ALONE -- no GPS, no Sat-Phone, no internet. Following the prevalent winds and the streams, of course. You can get one his books at Amazon. Very worth reading, he's a man who can make dreams come true. If you can read portuguese, go to: http://www.amyrklink.com.br and take a look at his newest boats and projects.

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  45. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its funny you pretend like you know something about the topic when it is obvious you have no idea.

    Oh yeah, and thanks for pissing me off first thing monday morning.

  46. Re:Why Start In Winter? - And Why Sporting News on by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1
    Why climb mountains?
    Why go parachuting?
    Why sail across the Atlantic?
    Why cross the Antartica?
    Why circumnavigate the globe on a plane?

    Besides. Maybe you should bother doing a bit or research before you make any claims about this event?

  47. Wave by axehind · · Score: 1

    I bet if the got wiped out by a rogue wave they would blame it on /bin/laden