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The Forever War

mfarah writes: "I've liked science-fiction ever since my mother introduced me to the genre with a couple of Asimov's books when I was ten years old. I read a decent amount of it in high school, but pretty much abandoned the whole thing in university (not enough time and no money; my Usenet addiction didn't help)." Now he's going to try to soak up some of your time (but not too much) with this review of another Science Fiction classic, below. The Forever War author Joe Haldeman pages 254 publisher Avon Books rating 9 reviewer mfarah ISBN 0380708213 summary A short but good military SF novel. After finishing university, I suddenly had money and time available. Decided to take advantage of this to re-take my hobby, I purchased an awful lot of SF books (mostly the classics), and have been catching up for the last three years.

The latest book I've taken out of my "read pending" queue is The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman. Its credits include the Nebula Award in 1975 and the Hugo Award in 1976, and being considered one of the classics of the genre.

This is a fairly short science-fiction novel (250 pages in my mass-market paperback copy), dealing with the main character William Mandela, a young physics student drafted into the UN-controlled space army when war breaks out against the Taurans, an alien species we at first know nothing about (I'll purposefully avoid getting into a detailed discussion of the plot).

The novel is told to us from Mandela's viewpoint; Mandela narrates everything that happens in a very easy to read colloquial style, with an exquisite attention to details; the short chapters the book is divided in makes it a breeze to read -- a weekend in my case (and I'm no fast reader).

The Mandela character is well constructed, and his account reads like a friend telling you the story of his life. There are other characters that barely appear in the novel, yet they also feel properly written. The plot is simple and direct, with just a couple of nasty turns at key points in the story (you'll know them when you see them).

This description may remind some people of Heinlein's Starship Troopers: young guy (Mandela/Rico) enters the army, goes through a training period, goes to war with an unknown species, kicks butt and all that. Actually, that superficial description is where the resemblance stops: the way Mandela and John Rico get into the army is distinct, the training period is quite different, the aliens have nothing in common; both novels focus mainly on different stuff, and the few common themes are treated differently. If you expect this to be a Starship Troopers clone, you'll be surprised.

Surprisingly, the treatment of science isn't -- very detailed. There is enough of it to dismiss claims of this being a war novel simply translated into a SF setting (even if the author's acknowledged that the novel deals with his experiences in the Vietnam war), but hard-SF zealots might be disappointed.

All in all, this was a very enjoyable read, and I highly recommend it. I've voted 9 for this novel in the Top100SF.

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  1. It's genius by Myco · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Forever War is a fantastic piece of work. Just to be clear, though it's set in the future this book is really about the Vietnam War, and in particular the sense of alienation a vet feels when returning home. I'm not into war novels at all, but this reads like sci fi and it's incredibly satisfying.

    I also heartily recommend Haldeman's other "Forever" books: Forever Peace and Forever Free. They're not quite sequels (well, Forever Free is but it's set much later), but they give you the same sort of fantastic experience as The Forever War.

    Some of my top sci fi picks of all time. They're on my shelf next to Ender's Game.

    1. Re:It's genius by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, it is about the vietnam war. In fact, I believe he wrote it while in the vietnam war.

      Check Mr.Haldeman's website yourself.

      This is the book that brought me into science fiction. By far, I consider this the best book I've read (over Ender's Game, and Starship Troopers).

      The times are a bit off, if you read the unabridged version (it takes place in the 90s as I recall), but the way he deals with the thousands of years that go by is just ingenious!

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  2. One of My Favorites by puppetman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What made the novel truely disturbing was the alienation that the soldiers experienced upon returning home.

    Because they travelled at the speed of light, a tour that lasted a year could mean that hundreds of years had passed back on Earth. The accepted norms and values of society had changed remarkably, and the soldiers had to try to adapt.

    I suppose this alienation parallels the experience of Vietnam veterans, as Haldeman openly mentions that the book is really about Vietnam.

    The Forever Peace, which has nothing to do with the Forever War, but is none-the-less a great book.

  3. Relativity, Anyone? by Sargent1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having read the review, I'm rather surprised that no mention was made of the relativistic effects which were the underpinning of the book.

    See, the reason that it's the Forever War is that everyone who's sent to the frontlines to fight travel on ships that accelerate to an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. The narrator of the story thus spends hundreds of "objective" years fighting the war for a few years of his subjective time. The result? The soldiers who are asked to fight in this war find themselves more and more estranged from human culture, which changes at the usual rate of one year per yer. The soldiers are anachronisms, and as the war drags on and society and the rules of engagement change, the soldiers find themselves cut off from society.

  4. Forever War == Starship Troopers after Vietnam by Ian+Lance+Taylor · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the comparison to Starship Troopers is reasonable and appropriate. Starship Troopers was written during the Cold War after World War II and the Korean War, and it reflects the sensibilities of the time (plus Heinlein's own philosophy, of course). I think the Forever War is a conscious updating of Starship Troopers after the country's and the author's experiences in the Vietnam War.

    BTW, Haldeman used to teach a science fiction class at M.I.T., and for all I know he still does.

  5. Links and Sample Chapters by LauraLolly · · Score: 5, Informative
    Haldeman has his own website, which also has links to from the latest book to be published, The Coming. (Since it's on Earthlink, it may be slashdotted. The links can be found here at Google)

    I actually prefer his trilogy of Worlds, Worlds Apart, and Worlds Enough in Time, but Forever War has a couple of concepts that I come back to years afterwards. I disagree with the assessment that Forever Free and Forever Peace suck. These are different books, with different themes, in different styles. (That said, I didn't enjoy them nearly as much. If I had to recommend one book above all others as an introduction to Haldeman, it would be the short story collection Dealing in Futures

    One thing that I enjoy about Haldeman's work that also maddens me is that he adores experimentimg. Although he is a consistently good writer, he really does try to fit the style to the story. Hemingway Hoax reads very differently from some of his other books, and The Coming is a study in rapid-cutting movie techniques applied to novels.

    I'm glad to see this book reviewed, as Haldeman has consistently come up with some of the most interesting ideas in SF. Oh, and the tired thing about Forever War as a retread of Starship Troopers? Heinlein didn't think so. He congratulated Haldeman on "writing one of the most original stories I've ever seen."

  6. FOREVER WAR vs. STARSHIP TROOPERS by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The Forever War first appeared as a series of short stories and novellas in Analog Science Fiction / Science Fact magazine. When the first story, "Hero," was published in 1972, critics complained it was a rip-off of Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers with sex (and slightly fancier powered armor).

    The difference? Heinlein was a U.S. Naval Academy graduate who contracted tuberculosis and was forced out of the service with a medical discarge; I believe he was never given the chance to see combat. Haldeman was a Vietnam draftee. (His online biography says, "Purple Heart and other standard medals.") They had very different views of war. Haldeman's was new and unusual for the SF community.

    Both are very good stories by very good writers.

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  7. Review of review by ThePlague · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The reviewer failed to grasp the significance of the science that was presented in this book. It is one of the few SciFi novels that realistically portrays the consequences of time dilation due to relativistic travel. In addition, the effects of attaining such speeds, i.e. accelerations involved, play a critical role at several points in the narrative. So, the physics is definitely there, just not as didactic as other noteworthy physics-friendly novels, such as Rendezvous with Rama.

    This shouldn't be too surprising, as Haldeman was a physics major. More information about the author can be found at his website.

    The Forever War has been called an "answer" to Starship Troopers. The main contrast between the two is that Rico volunteers, as does everyone else, for federal service, whereas Mandela is drafted. Rico knows his war to be just, whereas Mandela is never sure. Rico also revels in the destruction of the enemy of his own accord, while Mandela is forced to a bloodlust via post-hypnotic suggestion. Basically, Starship Troopers justifies its war by portraying an underestimated enemy that is ruthless, while the plot of The Forever War hints at the notion that it is mostly xenophobia and economics that drives the conflict. Rico grows to be eager to fight, of his own volition, while Mandela is coerced at every turn.

    I suppose the over-riding thematic difference between the two would be that Heinlein's work portrays a protagonist that through the process of becoming more mature learns that societal duty is the highest, while Mandela has his cynicism and distrust of the powers that be confirmed.

  8. Pay for writers? by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This review does no justice to the book, and is distressingly superficial. If it was written by a sixth-grader, I would give this "book report" a barely passing grade.

    To review the Forever War as simply Starship Troopers with different training and aliens is to miss the point. This is not a book "about" aliens or technology or hyperspace travel or combat suits.

    This is a book about the nature of war -- the people we send to fight, society's relationship to those people, and the permanent affect such an undertaking has on the lives of those it touches.

    The Forever War is an excellent novel, not because it is a sci-fi tale, but because it is a human tale -- an admonition to society that conflicts are not to be entered lightly, and that we have a responsibility to those who fight, well beyond merely supplying them with bullets.

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  9. Several versions of this book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reviewer left this out, but there are actually three different versions of this book that are available.

    The first version was the original publication, and is the shortest. I think it was cut to make the book shorter, and thus cheaper, and it left out most of the chapters of civilian life.

    The second version added some cut chapters, but not all.

    The third version is the latest published, and it contained the entire book as originally written. I recently read this version, and I think it is by far the best of the three.

  10. Re:Pet peeve by Matt_Bennett · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a difference- it is used to distinguish between "mass-market" and "trade" paperbacks:
    Here is a link.

    From that link:
    Mass-market paperbacks (pbk)
    AKA "rack sized", these are the books that you can find in any store selling books. Most measure aproximately 4.25" x 7".

    Trade paperbacks (Tpbk)
    Paperbacks that are larger than mass-markets, many times having the same dimensions as a hard cover. Known as trades because they are generally only carried by actual bookstores (in the trade) and not in non-bookstores, like grocery stores. (This however is starting to change.)